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foobar2000 0.9.5 beta 9
alphaex32
post Oct 20 2007, 17:02
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Oh ok, I understand. I hope eveyone updates their components to work in the new UI. One more thing I was wondering, how can I create custom button bars? I dont see an option anywhere for it.
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post Oct 20 2007, 17:04
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Amazing release. Thanks. I am really glad that the default UI will be more attractive to a larger user base.
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post Oct 20 2007, 17:08
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QUOTE (mil3s @ Oct 20 2007, 17:01) *
Sure, it's a very small improvement. But they have a loooooooooong way to go if they wanna match up to panels or columns ui. The new ui looks far from elegant.

0.9.5 does not try to compete with Columns UI or Panels UI as far as total visual customization is concerned. Also, some people consider it elegant when an application blends in with the rest of the crowd; it is largely a matter of taste. wink.gif

QUOTE (buktore @ Oct 20 2007, 17:19) *
Now, a question

Is there a way to lock album art to now playing song only?

It's follow cursor only right now. and i don't see any setting anywhere.

There is no such setting in the beta.

QUOTE (alphaex32 @ Oct 20 2007, 18:02) *
One more thing I was wondering, how can I create custom button bars? I dont see an option anywhere for it.

There is no option for that.


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post Oct 20 2007, 17:12
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Is Peter still the largest contributer to development (or sole developer) of foobar2000? Or is this release a work of other developers?

Edit: Thanks for the answers Frank Bicking and foosion.

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post Oct 20 2007, 17:15
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QUOTE (foosion @ Oct 20 2007, 18:08) *
QUOTE (alphaex32 @ Oct 20 2007, 18:02) *
One more thing I was wondering, how can I create custom button bars? I dont see an option anywhere for it.

There is no option for that.


Any plans to include that someday? That would be the last element to let foobar look like a normal windows application, beside of the functionality to have quick access to often used commands (without going to main or context menu and without remebering hundreds of shortcuts)


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foosion
post Oct 20 2007, 17:23
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QUOTE (AlfredSka @ Oct 20 2007, 18:12) *
Is Peter still the largest contributer to development (or sole developer) of foobar2000? Or is this release a work of other developers?

Peter is still responsible for almost everything in the installer and for everything on the optional components page. As far as actual code goes, my contribution is limited to foo_freedb2 and some pieces of code used in foobar2000 itself (edit: all of those predate 0.9.5 by the way). The components on other pages (Frank's and mine, for example) are the work of their respective author. picmixer has made the new icons (the foobar2000 and file type icons). Then there is a bunch of people who did testing and helped with the release preparations.

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post Oct 20 2007, 17:32
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QUOTE (AlfredSka @ Oct 20 2007, 18:12) *
Is Peter still the largest contributer to development (or sole developer) of foobar2000? Or is this release a work of other developers?

Edit: Thanks for the answers Frank Bicking and foosion.


yes he is

edit: halo thar redundancy. the foosion is fast

QUOTE (TuNk77 @ Oct 20 2007, 17:27) *
I just tried the new beta, but it crashes when i use columns UI and the fancy new spectrum visual.
Here is the crash info, i hope you guys will find it useful smile.gif


Try no tusing Columns UI, and instead try the new default UI... this is where it's at wink.gif

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post Oct 20 2007, 18:02
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Joy to the world
the new release is come


This release look FANTASTIC. can't wait to check it out. Big thanks to the foobar2000 developers.
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post Oct 20 2007, 18:17
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As a general observation: people in this thread are too focussed on configuration rather than usage and doing stuff with foobar. A significant amount of minor features... and possibilities to combine new features - havent been discovered yet, because people are more concerned with configuration rather than usage.

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post Oct 20 2007, 18:18
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Thnaks to the dev team for this great and unexpected version!! Lots of new features, it must have been a lot of work.

The new easily configurable UI is great and should attract new users. I was able to almost replicate my playlist tree config in a few clicks! Except for some custom queries so I hope it'll be possible to create custom "views" in the tree intead if the default one listed in the "view" combo
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post Oct 20 2007, 18:21
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This is just awesome. And I eagerly wait for Navigator for the new Defaul UI =)


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post Oct 20 2007, 18:25
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i think activating UI ELEMENTS by mouse-over would be nice
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post Oct 20 2007, 18:25
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QUOTE (Squeller @ Oct 20 2007, 18:01) *
Wow, a new beginning. I'll need some time for that...
BTW, the fb2k default icon has some ugly white pixels at the corner here, wxp, 16 bit colors.


Thanks for reporting. I'll fix that when I get the time to the next few days. I have to admit that I didn't really check the 16 bit version on different backgrounds.

Well, all else I have left to say to everyone is, enjoy the beta. We are all very glad to see how well received it is by the users and hope you enjoy it as much as we have during the lengthy period of alpha testing. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 20 2007, 18:47
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Whoa...entirely new foobar2000 interface it will make it easier for me to recommend it to the slightly experienced to no experienced user now. Plus it looks and functions great, granted there will be bugs and kinks to workout but the new approach is awesome.

Nice job, foobar200 team.


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The WYSIWIG edition of the layout + scrachbox is just brilliant!

I suppose the next version of the SDK will allow wrinting of UI Elements and to port existing ui panels ?
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post Oct 20 2007, 19:01
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Highlights of the new release for me:
  • Improved drag and drop support.
  • Improved clipboard support.
  • Properties dialog is even better (I rarely use Masstagger now).
  • The File Operations context menu options rock my world.

The user interface has really been completely overhauled and is so much more pleasant to work with. Excellent job!

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post Oct 20 2007, 19:04
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QUOTE (foosion @ Oct 20 2007, 10:08) *
QUOTE (mil3s @ Oct 20 2007, 17:01) *
Sure, it's a very small improvement. But they have a loooooooooong way to go if they wanna match up to panels or columns ui. The new ui looks far from elegant.

0.9.5 does not try to compete with Columns UI or Panels UI as far as total visual customization is concerned. Also, some people consider it elegant when an application blends in with the rest of the crowd; it is largely a matter of taste. wink.gif

When you say blend in I assume you mean that it looks like any other app for XP/Vista. The thing is that it barely does. Foobar truly has potential to be a great player with a simple yet appealing UI. I realize this is beta but here are some things that are bothering me. It's all about the details.

1. The progressbar and volume control are both oversized, as well as the splitters.
2. It would look a lot better if all elements had border style options (including splitters). The default borders look terrible.
3. Formating for album art? Like... albumart\[%album%].jpg. Would be nice with album art in the playlist as well, like in iTunes.
4. Autosizing of columns in playlist view / playlist manager / playlist search.
5. Would be nice if toolbar panels were separate from the toolbar container.

Keep up the good work.

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post Oct 20 2007, 19:05
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Highlights of the new release for me:
  • Still unobtrusively goes to system tray and plays whatever I throw at it.

Yay for mundane.
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post Oct 20 2007, 19:27
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In the "File Operations - Rename" diaglog: preview doesn't work until I didn't change the "File Name Patters" field


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post Oct 20 2007, 19:58
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Wow... new version!! And the new default interface gives Columns UI and Panels UI a run for their money by far! The new interface is an unexpected, wonderful treat for all foobar2000 users, especially for new to novice users who want to experiment with the interface w/o dealing with too much code. I would assume that more experienced users are having a blast with all of the tinkering. It's shocking that this is a beta, since it runs quite smoothly, no hitches. Probably a personal preference, but I wish that a lyrics panel will be added... or maybe it's there, but can't find it. Anyways, an amazing job by the people who make foobar!!!
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post Oct 20 2007, 20:05
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I've split some posts about - I guess - different people's approach to using foobar2000. Please stay on topic and avoid being hostile to users who do not share your opinion.

Additional reminder: please post bug reports in separate threads.


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post Oct 20 2007, 20:18
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While all feedback is appreciated, we would like to avoid the typical "beta thread syndrome" in the long run.

Threads with many pages can make it quite difficult to keep track of the numerous proposals and error reports. This would most likely cause concerns to be repeated, and might in the worst case even result in bugs remaining unfixed. That said, please try to stick to one topic when posting, instead of covering a broad range of completely different aspects. This will make it much easier to properly split posts into comprehensible separate threads, which we will continue to do if necessary.

Please do also consider to start a new topic, especially for bug reports, as mentioned by foosion.

Just include "0.9.5" somewhere in its title to catch our attention.

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post Oct 20 2007, 21:10
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To those who have tried the beta so far, is it "stable"?
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post Oct 20 2007, 21:24
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QUOTE (Nitrius @ Oct 20 2007, 23:10) *
To those who have tried the beta so far, is it "stable"?

stable so far, if you removed all the unneeded components (uie_albumart etc...)
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Wow. This is a masterful upgrade.

In a couple of minutes I had a display that looks just as good as my old ColumnsUI layout.

And I notice that real Random Play is back!

You guys rock.


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