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Musepack (MPC) SV8 beta is out
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post Sep 26 2007, 02:12
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QUOTE (michtar @ Sep 25 2007, 23:57) *
Is there any way to batch convert from SV7 to SV8? BTW, using * in output name results in a crash.

just in case, devs recommended not to use it just yet, for normal use.


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post Sep 27 2007, 21:58
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Phreakin awesome!
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I wonder what Andre Buschmann is doing nowadays biggrin.gif

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post Sep 28 2007, 15:07
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Congrats! This is really great to see. It must have been already way back in 2002 that people were talking about this SV8 thing . It's nice to know that Musepack is still being developed. I still have about 300 records in --insane.
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post Sep 29 2007, 21:06
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QUOTE (WaldoMonster @ Sep 24 2007, 22:44) *
I will repeat my findings with mpcdec.
mpcdec doesn't decode to stdout but writes to the file: -

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mpcdec test.mpc - |

Is decoding to stdout not implemented yet?


According to the timeline, pipe decoding was implemented on 27th September, however the link to the windows package still points to the one from 23th September.
Maybe somebody can compile the latest source?
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post Oct 1 2007, 16:30
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Been searching the forums for the old high bitrate listening tests. Granted, Vorbis and LAME have improved since then. Does anybody have a link to a more recent test than this one?


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post Oct 1 2007, 18:33
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QUOTE (indybrett @ Oct 1 2007, 17:30) *
Been searching the forums for the old high bitrate listening tests. Granted, Vorbis and LAME have improved since then. Does anybody have a link to a more recent test than this one?

This one, a year later.
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QUOTE (gaekwad2 @ Oct 1 2007, 13:33) *
QUOTE (indybrett @ Oct 1 2007, 17:30) *

Been searching the forums for the old high bitrate listening tests. Granted, Vorbis and LAME have improved since then. Does anybody have a link to a more recent test than this one?

This one, a year later.

Thanks. That's the one I last remembered reading, but couldn't find it.


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post Oct 3 2007, 18:18
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Fantastic news. smile.gif
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post Oct 9 2007, 00:08
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I knew this day would come...the "eternal awaited" SV8 smile.gif
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post Oct 10 2007, 04:20
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QUOTE (indybrett @ Oct 1 2007, 09:40) *
QUOTE (gaekwad2 @ Oct 1 2007, 13:33) *

QUOTE (indybrett @ Oct 1 2007, 17:30) *

Been searching the forums for the old high bitrate listening tests. Granted, Vorbis and LAME have improved since then. Does anybody have a link to a more recent test than this one?

This one, a year later.

Thanks. That's the one I last remembered reading, but couldn't find it.

More proof that has failed to quench the seemingly widely held belief that "MPC is the most transparent lossy format at 160 kbps and above" unfortunately. Calling them anything other than equal would be disingenuous, IMO.

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post Oct 10 2007, 16:41
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QUOTE (vinnie97 @ Oct 9 2007, 23:20) *
QUOTE (indybrett @ Oct 1 2007, 09:40) *

QUOTE (gaekwad2 @ Oct 1 2007, 13:33) *

QUOTE (indybrett @ Oct 1 2007, 17:30) *

Been searching the forums for the old high bitrate listening tests. Granted, Vorbis and LAME have improved since then. Does anybody have a link to a more recent test than this one?

This one, a year later.

Thanks. That's the one I last remembered reading, but couldn't find it.

More proof that has failed to quench the seemingly widely held belief that "MPC is the most transparent lossy format at 160 kbps and above" unfortunately. Calling them anything other than equal would be disingenuous, IMO.

I don't think anybody is claiming MPC superiority anymore. At least, not in this forum. If they are, I haven't seen it.


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post Oct 10 2007, 18:16
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QUOTE (indybrett @ Oct 10 2007, 08:41) *
I don't think anybody is claiming MPC superiority anymore. At least, not in this forum. If they are, I haven't seen it.

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....st&p=518844
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....mp;#entry516550

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post Oct 10 2007, 18:31
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QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 10 2007, 13:16) *
QUOTE (indybrett @ Oct 10 2007, 08:41) *
I don't think anybody is claiming MPC superiority anymore. At least, not in this forum. If they are, I haven't seen it.

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....st&p=518844
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....mp;#entry516550

In the first thread you linked I didn't see anyone claim MPC superiority, only one person joking about "bowing down to MPC". In the 2nd, I saw one poster who claimed it was better than MP3.

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post Oct 10 2007, 18:36
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QUOTE (indybrett @ Oct 10 2007, 10:31) *
In the first thread you linked I didn't see anyone claim MPC superiority. In the 2nd, I saw one poster who claimed it was better than MP3.

Now bowdown to MPC! (Well, I thought it funny at least. It was posted shortly after he finished with the other thread.)

You need to read through the other one to see that he also suggests that MPC is superior to AAC and seems to prefer it over OGG as well.

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QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 10 2007, 13:36) *
QUOTE (indybrett @ Oct 10 2007, 10:31) *
In the first thread you linked I didn't see anyone claim MPC superiority. In the 2nd, I saw one poster who claimed it was better than MP3.

Now bowdown to MPC! (Well, I thought it funny at least. It was posted shortly after he finished with the other thread.)

You need to read through the other one to see that he also suggests that MPC is superior to AAC and seems to prefer it over OGG as well.

Yeah, I didn't see the the Ogg part. Oh well... Most of us know smile.gif


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post Oct 10 2007, 18:52
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He's ok with ogg's quality, just that mpc was better for his purposes.

Anyhow, I thought it was funny. Sorry for going off-topic. smile.gif

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post Oct 17 2007, 16:30
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Just curious how the beta is doing. Would like to see this out of beta, and support in Rockbox for the new stream version.


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post Oct 17 2007, 18:03
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there has been some upstream dev since the beta to address some of the issues brought up here like:
* piped i/o for mpcdec
* fix for id3v2 seek bug
* mpc2sv8 output options (overwrite with -o and to directory)
* quantizer change (also helps in rockbox integration)

and preglow will be working on the rockbox changes when he is able.


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post Oct 17 2007, 18:32
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Great news, thanks for the update. smile.gif


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post Oct 17 2007, 20:41
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QUOTE (xmixahlx @ Oct 17 2007, 19:03) *
there has been some upstream dev since the beta to address some of the issues brought up here like:
* piped i/o for mpcdec
* fix for id3v2 seek bug
* mpc2sv8 output options (overwrite with -o and to directory)
* quantizer change (also helps in rockbox integration)

and preglow will be working on the rockbox changes when he is able.


later

Nice work.
Are there win32 compiles of these updates available?
If so I will do some testing with the pipe output of mpcdec.


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post Oct 17 2007, 22:37
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no - but the windows project files are updated so you can checkout and compile at a whim!


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post Oct 20 2007, 17:48
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wow, I never thought I would see the day sv8 came out! time for another listening test guru?
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post Oct 20 2007, 17:53
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There are no changes to psychoacoustic model, as stated. So, no tests needed, at least for now.


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post Oct 20 2007, 18:00
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heh, yeah I just read that, but you replied before I could edit my post
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post Nov 26 2007, 21:50
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QUOTE (xmixahlx @ Oct 17 2007, 18:03) *
there has been some upstream dev since the beta to address some of the issues brought up here like:
* piped i/o for mpcdec
* fix for id3v2 seek bug
* mpc2sv8 output options (overwrite with -o and to directory)
* quantizer change (also helps in rockbox integration)

and preglow will be working on the rockbox changes when he is able.


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Decode to stdout still not working with the latest binaries.
Is there a special command for stdout or can I use - ?

http://r2d.musepack.net/files/musepack_bin_20071123.zip


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