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Vorbis and dual POKEY chiptunes
Whelkman
post Aug 4 2007, 02:43
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Introduced in a separate thread, the following samples illustrate poor performance with Vorbis in stereo Atari POKEY chiptunes. The example piece is Grzegorz Kwiatek's "Alive" in SAP format. Please use ASAP if you wish to hear the source:

Attached File  Grzegorz_Kwiatek___Alive.sap.zip ( 3.89K ) Number of downloads: 244

In WavPack format is a five second crop from the song's introduction:

Attached File  Grzegorz_Kwiatek___Alive__5_sec_.wv ( 305.79K ) Number of downloads: 258

Each of the lossy tracks are encoded from the above WavPack file and labeled with their quality; the "kbps" numbers indicate the average bitrate of the entire encoded song at two minutes twenty-nine seconds. Encodes were performed in foobar2000 v0.9.4.3 with WavPack 4.41, aoTuV Beta 5, and LAME 3.97 final, the latter two from RareWares. All tracks have ReplayGain applied.

Distortion type is most audible, naturally, with lower bitrates. I recommend first comparing the WavPack file with aoTuV q0.0. One will quickly notice the scratchy distortion.

Attached File  Grzegorz_Kwiatek___Alive__q0.0__64kbps_.ogg ( 56.87K ) Number of downloads: 438

With the scratchy sound in mind, now listen to q4.0. Distortion is subdued but still easily identifiable. At this level I can still ABX roughly at the rate it takes me to move the cursor between buttons.

Attached File  Grzegorz_Kwiatek___Alive__q4.0__139kbps_.ogg ( 103.67K ) Number of downloads: 404

Comparison starts to become difficult at q5.0 but not so much that I cannot reliably differentiate.

Attached File  Grzegorz_Kwiatek___Alive__q5.0__236kbps_.ogg ( 146.17K ) Number of downloads: 396

I would deem 5.0 as minimum acceptable level for Vorbis with this style of music. For comparison, LAME -V6 produces an encoding indistinguishable from source to me.

Attached File  Grzegorz_Kwiatek___Alive__V6__136kbps_.mp3 ( 129.68K ) Number of downloads: 535

The Vorbis sample becomes indistinguishable to me somewhere between 5.0 and 5.9, but I suspect 6.0 is the true general transparency point.
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