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Nightwish - Angels Fall First
shadowking
post Jun 4 2007, 17:11
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Serious problems for LAME mp3 , similar issues with AAC.

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post Sep 10 2012, 22:16
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Here comes a candidate for 3.99.5z to play with. The zip file also contains some problematic music I used for testing.

You can use -Vn+ from n=5 to n=0. It is impossible for the lower quality settings to bring significant improvement for problem spots without also significantly increasing average bitrate. So the adequate -Vn partners to compare with are
-V3 for -V5+ (169 kbps for my test set)
-V2 for -V4+ (190 kbps)
-V1 for -V3+ (223 kbps).

-V2+ takes 235 kbps on average,
-V1+ 243 kbps (after mp3packer, 250 kbps otherwise).
-V0+ comes more or less for free: 262 kbps after mp3packer, 271 kbps otherwise (-V0 takes 260 kbps for my test set used).

I did some intensive listening tests with -V5+ compared to -V3. To me -V5+ is the better solution for ringing/tremolo problems like 'Angel Fall First', 'lead-voice', 'trumpet_myPrince'.
For the other samples I tested there isn't a big quality difference between -V5+ and -V3, with slight advantages for -V5+ for some samples, and slight advantages for -V3 for other ones.

If you want to play with the most essential parameters that control the functional extension of 3.99.5z you can use
--adbr_long x to set the minimum audio data bitrate for long blocks to x [kbps]
--adbr_short x to set the minimum audio data bitrate for short blocks to x [kbps].

Enjoy!

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- shadowking   Nightwish - Angels Fall First   Jun 4 2007, 17:11
- - odyssey   Please add version, parameters etc. I had no prob...   Jun 4 2007, 17:18
- - shadowking   I first spotted it with 3.97 ages ago. Tested 3.98...   Jun 4 2007, 17:26
- - greynol   I'm not sure I could ABX at -V3, but at -V4 di...   Jun 4 2007, 17:35
- - halb27   Tried 3.97V5 on it. I couldn't hear the proble...   Jun 4 2007, 19:52
|- - shadowking   QUOTE (halb27 @ Jun 5 2007, 04:52) Tried ...   Jun 10 2007, 04:33
|- - LANjackal   QUOTE (shadowking @ Jun 9 2007, 23:33) QU...   Jun 10 2007, 18:43
- - LANjackal   For what it's worth, I couldn't ABX it at ...   Jun 5 2007, 06:53
- - stigc   It's funny, Vorbis (aoTuVb5) have no 'trem...   Jun 5 2007, 11:11
|- - Pio2001   QUOTE (stigc @ Jun 5 2007, 12:11) Does an...   Jun 8 2007, 00:18
- - Jillian   Out Of Topic. I'm very disappoint Anette, ne...   Jun 5 2007, 11:26
- - robert   @shadowking: nice sample, but I think we cannot fi...   Jun 7 2007, 14:26
- - alter4   I was able to abx even lame 3.99.5 with -b320 -q0 ...   Sep 4 2012, 11:05
|- - halb27   QUOTE (alter4 @ Sep 4 2012, 12:05) I was ...   Sep 6 2012, 20:29
|- - IgorC   QUOTE (halb27 @ Sep 6 2012, 16:29) You us...   Sep 8 2012, 04:13
|- - MostlyHarmless   QUOTE (IgorC @ Sep 8 2012, 06:13) p = 0.0...   Sep 8 2012, 12:12
|- - C.R.Helmrich   0.5^number-of-trials. Igor, I wouldn't say 5 i...   Sep 8 2012, 13:17
- - psycho   I missed this thread in 2007, but now I'm inte...   Sep 4 2012, 16:47
- - lvqcl   05___Angels_Fall_First_ringing.flac was (re)upload...   Sep 4 2012, 18:15
- - psycho   Hm, I can't hear it... I've tried -V 6 to ...   Sep 5 2012, 19:38
- - mixminus1   A ringing/fluttering in the right-channel guitar, ...   Sep 5 2012, 20:13
- - psycho   Thanks, mixminus1. I will try it again tonight. B...   Sep 6 2012, 11:33
|- - Dynamic   I wanted to try out the VBR+ mode (-V n+) of halb2...   Sep 6 2012, 18:59
- - psycho   Aha! Now I took time, put my headphones on and...   Sep 6 2012, 17:19
- - halb27   Thank you for applauding 3.99.5y, but I'm afra...   Sep 6 2012, 20:17
|- - Dynamic   QUOTE (halb27 @ Sep 6 2012, 20:17) Thank ...   Sep 8 2012, 17:29
|- - halb27   QUOTE (Dynamic @ Sep 8 2012, 18:29) That...   Sep 8 2012, 18:54
|- - Dynamic   QUOTE (halb27 @ Sep 8 2012, 18:54) Anyway...   Sep 8 2012, 20:02
- - halb27   I tried various 3.99.5 -Vn settings with this inte...   Sep 7 2012, 21:49
- - alter4   QUOTE (halb27 @ Sep 6 2012, 22:29) QUOTE ...   Sep 8 2012, 11:14
|- - halb27   QUOTE (alter4 @ Sep 8 2012, 12:14) I did ...   Sep 8 2012, 18:28
- - halb27   Thanks for that. Hopefully you will continue your ...   Sep 8 2012, 20:33
|- - Dynamic   QUOTE (halb27 @ Sep 8 2012, 20:33) One th...   Sep 9 2012, 10:04
- - alter4   Guys, just one question. What is LAME3.99y encoder...   Sep 9 2012, 11:14
- - halb27   You can download it from the 3.99.5y thread. Than...   Sep 9 2012, 13:30
|- - Dynamic   QUOTE (halb27 @ Sep 9 2012, 13:30) You ca...   Sep 10 2012, 17:34
- - halb27   Here comes a candidate for 3.99.5z to play with. T...   Sep 10 2012, 22:16
|- - Dynamic   Thanks, I look forward to testing this. Ryan. [e...   Sep 11 2012, 08:40
|- - halb27   QUOTE (Dynamic @ Sep 11 2012, 09:40) ... ...   Sep 11 2012, 09:23
- - halb27   I'd like to draw special attention to the samp...   Sep 11 2012, 09:09


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