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post Apr 20 2007, 13:26
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I'm just throwing this out, I don't care if the mods move or delete this post.

For the past several years I've had a very nice cache of cyan mushrooms. Yes the psychoactive ones. The ones that make you trip.

I've noticed something interesting - I think they improve my hearing. If I take just a small amount, like a nickel sized piece of shroom flesh - not enough to trip, it makes my hearing more acute. I swear. I'm almost 40, have good hearing normally. I find I become much more sensitive to high frequency sounds (like my CRT, computer power supply and fans) and I think my hearing overall becomes more acute. Suddenly I can hear the neighbors in my apartment complex much more clearly (having good hearing can be a bit of a curse).

I doubt the drug changes the mechanics of hearing, but it does tweak the nerve conduction and sensory processing. It's thought that most of perception is unconscious and a lot of stuff gets filtered before it reaches the level of conscious perception. Perhaps the drug removes some of this filtering?

I've read a few accounts online that agree with this, including one person with moderate hearing loss that found low doses of shrooms helped his hearing greatly.

It would be interesting to actually measure this and see if there's a real difference in hearing acuity, or if it's all in your head unsure.gif
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post Apr 20 2007, 18:08
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Why the Latinate name? See George Orwell: Politics and the English Language:

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An interesting illustration of this is the way in which the English flower names which were in use till very recently are being ousted by Greek ones, snapdragon becoming antirrhinum, forget-me-not becoming myosotis, etc. It is hard to see any practical reason for this change of fashion: it is probably due to an instinctive turning-awayfrom the more homely word and a vague feeling that the Greek word is scientific.


http://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit

There's a perfectly good English name for these: liberty cap mushrooms.

Do they "help" hearing in some (undefined) manner? Or would someone who's consumed some falsely imagine that they had?

I suppose that could be tested in controlled experiments. I can't see it happening, since this would risk the health of the participants, so what reputable academic institution would undertake such experiments?

If an academic institution were to be interested in how altered states of consciousness might affect hearing (or any other sense) I'd suggest Buddhist monks used to meditating would be a better bet.
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post Apr 20 2007, 21:29
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QUOTE (Nick E @ Apr 20 2007, 12:08) *
Why the Latinate name? See George Orwell: Politics and the English Language:

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An interesting illustration of this is the way in which the English flower names which were in use till very recently are being ousted by Greek ones, snapdragon becoming antirrhinum, forget-me-not becoming myosotis, etc. It is hard to see any practical reason for this change of fashion: it is probably due to an instinctive turning-awayfrom the more homely word and a vague feeling that the Greek word is scientific.


http://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit

There's a perfectly good English name for these: liberty cap mushrooms.



rolleyes.gif Next time I'll just call them shrooms. Happy? Technically the ones I had were NOT liberty caps - there are many different species of psychoactive mushrooms, what I had were found outdoors along the west coast of the US - 'cyan cubensis' or something like that. 'Cyan' because they have a blueish color. They're one of the most potent varieties of 'magic mushrooms'.

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I suppose that could be tested in controlled experiments. I can't see it happening, since this would risk the health of the participants, so what reputable academic institution would undertake such experiments?


First off mushrooms do not damage your health - that's rubbish. Well you certainly may not be comfortable while 'under the influence' you aren't going to be physically harmed by them. As I tried to mention in my original post a very low dose - below what it would take to trip - is all that's needed to effect hearing. Anyway I agree we're not going to be seeing any controlled testing in the area anytime soon, hence my asking for opinions here.

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If an academic institution were to be interested in how altered states of consciousness might affect hearing (or any other sense) I'd suggest Buddhist monks used to meditating would be a better bet.


I fail to see how this relates to shrooms altering hearing. That would be a different test smile.gif
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- FloggedSynapse   psilocybin mushrooms improve hearing?   Apr 20 2007, 13:26
- - pest   In my opinion, psychoactive drugs don't improv...   Apr 20 2007, 13:41
|- - FloggedSynapse   QUOTE (pest @ Apr 20 2007, 07:41) In my o...   Apr 20 2007, 14:27
- - marcan   Definitely an interesting discussion. I work in t...   Apr 20 2007, 13:49
- - Societal Eclipse   On a particularly large dose of Elemicin in a crow...   Apr 20 2007, 14:47
- - Big_Berny   It would be interesting if ABXing is easier with t...   Apr 20 2007, 15:18
- - boojum   Better living through chemicals; yeah, right.   Apr 20 2007, 15:30
- - Societal Eclipse   I don't think anyone here is/was advocating dr...   Apr 20 2007, 15:57
|- - boojum   QUOTE (Societal Eclipse @ Apr 20 2007, 07...   Apr 20 2007, 21:51
|- - FloggedSynapse   QUOTE (boojum @ Apr 20 2007, 15:51) Seems...   Apr 20 2007, 22:46
|- - Cornie   QUOTE (FloggedSynapse @ Apr 20 2007, 13:4...   Apr 21 2007, 18:24
|- - Akuostophile   [quote name='Cornie' date='Apr 21 2007...   Apr 21 2007, 21:04
|- - Cornie   QUOTE (Akuostophile @ Apr 21 2007, 12:04)...   Apr 21 2007, 21:27
|- - Akuostophile   Actually, my reply was to FloggedSynapse - as you ...   Apr 21 2007, 21:50
|- - Cornie   QUOTE (Akuostophile @ Apr 21 2007, 12:50)...   Apr 21 2007, 23:47
|- - Akuostophile   QUOTE (Cornie @ Apr 21 2007, 18:47) QUOTE...   Apr 22 2007, 03:22
|- - boojum   [/quote] As the original poster questioned, I too ...   Apr 22 2007, 21:14
- - Nick E   Why the Latinate name? See George Orwell: Politics...   Apr 20 2007, 18:08
|- - FloggedSynapse   QUOTE (Nick E @ Apr 20 2007, 12:08) Why t...   Apr 20 2007, 21:29
- - marcan   I tried, without too much excess, a lot of differe...   Apr 20 2007, 22:11
- - Synthetic Soul   QUOTE (Nick E @ Apr 20 2007, 18:08) I sup...   Apr 21 2007, 08:01
- - de Mon   Can you prove your listening abilities become bett...   Apr 21 2007, 09:14
- - znode   QUOTE (FloggedSynapse @ Apr 20 2007, 04:2...   Apr 21 2007, 09:16
- - Akuostophile   It would be interesting to actually measure this a...   Apr 21 2007, 15:38
- - The Seeker   Terence McKenna stated that even at moderate dosag...   Apr 21 2007, 17:19
- - Donunus   are we talking listening like daredevil here?   Apr 21 2007, 21:20
|- - Akuostophile   QUOTE (Donunus @ Apr 21 2007, 16:20) are ...   Apr 21 2007, 21:36
- - Lyx   Psychedelics in general (not just sound) rarely ...   Apr 22 2007, 15:38
|- - marcan   I start a comparable subject few years ago here on...   Apr 23 2007, 00:17
|- - Lyx   QUOTE (marcan @ Apr 23 2007, 01:17) As I ...   Apr 23 2007, 00:29
|- - marcan   QUOTE (Lyx @ Apr 22 2007, 15:29) The test...   Apr 23 2007, 00:51
|- - Lyx   QUOTE (marcan @ Apr 23 2007, 01:51) Well ...   Apr 23 2007, 00:59
- - Lyx   Sorry, but the above post serves no useful purpose...   Apr 22 2007, 21:21
|- - Kees de Visser   There are probably quite some studies on the subje...   Apr 22 2007, 22:32
- - Mo0zOoH   QUOTE (Akuostophile @ Apr 22 2007, 06:22)...   Apr 22 2007, 23:58
- - greynol   Perhaps new psychoacoustic models can be created t...   Apr 23 2007, 00:35
|- - marcan   QUOTE (greynol @ Apr 22 2007, 15:35) Perh...   Apr 23 2007, 00:40
- - Woodinville   Well, I haven't a clue about the subject at ha...   Apr 24 2007, 19:09
- - krabapple   and indeed, hallucinogens have long been associate...   Apr 27 2007, 05:37
- - turtledude23   But are you saying you can hear better all the tim...   Apr 29 2007, 19:34
- - dlorde   I think it depends what is meant by 'improve...   May 3 2007, 16:47
- - rebinator   Shrooms (4-HO-DMT) imroving hearing? I daresay the...   Jun 24 2011, 07:17
- - mudlord   Got any ABX tests to prove those claims?   Jun 25 2011, 11:33
|- - rebinator   would you ever accept transcriptions? The extra pa...   Jul 27 2011, 06:53
- - db1989   rebinator, I think most readers would appreciate a...   Jun 25 2011, 14:13
|- - rebinator   by the very terms of service, then, the question o...   Jul 27 2011, 07:30
|- - klonuo   QUOTE (rebinator @ Jul 27 2011, 08:30) if...   Jul 28 2011, 22:02
- - mjb2006   rebinator, the subjective experiences you describe...   Jul 28 2011, 05:15
- - db1989   Your idea of transcribing in both states and compa...   Jul 28 2011, 20:42
- - pdq   I don't see how one could do a valid ABX test ...   Jul 28 2011, 21:01
- - Bartholomew MacGruber   Supposedly LSD at some dosage can increase the abi...   Mar 1 2012, 08:04


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