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audiophilosophy
post Feb 3 2007, 22:02
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I'm a noob with this technical sort of stuff, but I was wondering if the audio processing stuff included in Vista is better or worse than what we had with XP.

Ok, since I am a noob, this is what I have gathered about XP's audio processing--- the k mixer is bad, and it has a degrading effect on the sound unless you decided to take steps to entirely bypass the k mixer. Correct me if I'm wrong about this.

So I'm wondering, are there any improvements over XP's k mixer with what comes standard with Vista?
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post Feb 4 2007, 20:40
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The DRM system in Vista is only active if you playback protected content. And as a rule of thumb, everyone concerned about DRM should stay away from any protected content anyway, so i don't see the problem here.

If you don't like DRM, don't use or buy protected (DRM) content, it's as easy as that!

As for Vista's soundsystem giving worse or better sound than XP's i have no idea. I am however sticking with XP a few months more simply because i use alot of audio programs that rely on stable device drivers and such, which is not available for Vista yet (Cubase SX3, FL Studio, Reason 3, ReCycle, Sonar 6 Producer Edition, ProTools 7.3 M-Powered, Ableton Live and Hypersonic 2).

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post Feb 4 2007, 20:47
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QUOTE (bidz @ Feb 4 2007, 20:40) *
The DRM system in Vista is only active if you playback protected content. And as a rule of thumb, everyone concerned about DRM should stay away from any protected content anyway, so i don't see the problem here.

In Windows, staying away from DRM is as hard as staying away from the Internet Explorer.

Besides, both HD-DVD and Bluray aren't "protected" anymore, and even the DRM stuff that Microsoft's very own Zune player employs has been cracked.


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- audiophilosophy   Windows XP k mixer vs. whatever is in Vista   Feb 3 2007, 22:02
- - Martin H   I don't know what changes Vista includes with ...   Feb 3 2007, 22:53
- - crni   Maybe you can explain something to me... I have M-...   Feb 3 2007, 23:25
- - Tripwire   Vista uses a floating point pipeline in their audi...   Feb 3 2007, 23:36
- - AndyH-ha   QUOTE so obviously kmixer changes digital stream i...   Feb 4 2007, 01:27
|- - Dogbert   QUOTE (AndyH-ha @ Feb 4 2007, 01:27)...   Feb 4 2007, 01:46
|- - audiophilosophy   QUOTE (Dogbert @ Feb 3 2007, 18:46) QUOTE...   Feb 4 2007, 01:50
|- - crni   QUOTE (Dogbert @ Feb 3 2007, 16:46) Contr...   Feb 4 2007, 10:07
|- - Dogbert   QUOTE (crni @ Feb 4 2007, 10:07) ONLY way...   Feb 4 2007, 11:07
|- - Martin H   For anyone interessted in this bit-mangling issue ...   Feb 4 2007, 11:52
|- - audiophilosophy   QUOTE But like I said, it is impossible (or I have...   Feb 4 2007, 17:07
|- - Dogbert   QUOTE (audiophilosophy @ Feb 4 2007, 17:0...   Feb 4 2007, 17:28
- - HotshotGG   QUOTE So are you saying that the audio quality tha...   Feb 4 2007, 05:44
|- - audiophilosophy   QUOTE (HotshotGG @ Feb 3 2007, 22:44) QUO...   Feb 4 2007, 16:43
|- - Jebus   QUOTE (HotshotGG @ Feb 3 2007, 21:44) The...   Feb 4 2007, 19:23
|- - Dogbert   QUOTE (Jebus @ Feb 4 2007, 19:23) Vista l...   Feb 4 2007, 19:48
- - sld   Foobar2000 with KS works in Vista. I was using an...   Feb 4 2007, 07:09
- - mugen   How do I get KS working in Vista? With a Realtek ...   Feb 4 2007, 09:08
|- - sld   QUOTE (mugen @ Feb 4 2007, 16:08) How do ...   Feb 5 2007, 19:36
- - Dogbert   The kernel mixer of the 64 bit version of Windows ...   Feb 4 2007, 18:29
- - Borisz   I can use Kernel Streaming in Vista, using a Sound...   Feb 4 2007, 18:52
- - TREX6662k6   Actually you are able to disable driver signing by...   Feb 4 2007, 19:52
|- - Dogbert   QUOTE (TREX6662k6 @ Feb 4 2007, 19:52) Ac...   Feb 4 2007, 19:56
- - TREX6662k6   I agree with A) but B) there is a command you can ...   Feb 4 2007, 20:04
- - HotshotGG   QUOTE Well, sidetracking successful. What the hell...   Feb 4 2007, 20:22
- - Firon   Jebus: HD DVD works just fine on XP. So does Blu-R...   Feb 4 2007, 20:27
|- - Jebus   QUOTE (Firon @ Feb 4 2007, 12:27) Jebus: ...   Feb 4 2007, 20:40
|- - rjamorim   QUOTE (Jebus @ Feb 4 2007, 16:40) And no,...   Feb 5 2007, 01:39
|- - chelgrian   QUOTE (rjamorim @ Feb 5 2007, 01:39) I se...   Feb 5 2007, 21:02
|- - rjamorim   QUOTE (chelgrian @ Feb 5 2007, 17:02) QUO...   Feb 6 2007, 01:39
- - bidz   The DRM system in Vista is only active if you play...   Feb 4 2007, 20:40
|- - Dogbert   QUOTE (bidz @ Feb 4 2007, 20:40) The DRM ...   Feb 4 2007, 20:47
||- - bidz   QUOTE (Dogbert @ Feb 4 2007, 11:47) In Wi...   Feb 4 2007, 20:56
||- - Dogbert   QUOTE (bidz @ Feb 4 2007, 20:56) That...   Feb 4 2007, 21:48
||- - jeffster   QUOTE (bidz @ Feb 5 2007, 07:56) The DRM ...   Feb 5 2007, 15:43
|- - spockep   QUOTE (bidz @ Feb 4 2007, 15:40) The DRM ...   Feb 5 2007, 18:28
- - CSMR   QUOTE (spockep @ Feb 5 2007, 09:28) Thats...   Feb 5 2007, 20:38
|- - Dogbert   QUOTE (CSMR @ Feb 5 2007, 20:38) No. Wind...   Feb 5 2007, 20:48
- - JunkieXL   QUOTE (jeffster @ Feb 5 2007, 07:43) Kind...   Feb 5 2007, 21:05
- - Martin H   Hi Dogbert Are you saying that the person who wr...   Feb 5 2007, 22:48
- - CSMR   QUOTE (Dogbert @ Feb 5 2007, 11:48) Ahh, ...   Feb 5 2007, 22:52
|- - Dogbert   QUOTE (CSMR @ Feb 5 2007, 22:52) So what ...   Feb 5 2007, 23:08
- - CSMR   Yes and when they are mixed together, is the volum...   Feb 5 2007, 23:21
|- - Dogbert   QUOTE (CSMR @ Feb 5 2007, 23:21) Yes and ...   Feb 5 2007, 23:50
- - tgoose   Is it really illegal to watch DVDs using OSS? I wa...   Feb 7 2007, 00:25


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