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Ogg -q4 transparent to you?
Be Positive
post Dec 26 2006, 11:32
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Hi,

I just started transcoding my FLAC albums (I'll save them) to Ogg. I first tested q 5, q 6 and then q 4 and I can't tell any difference between them.

But I cant believe that 128kbit files are absolutely transparent? I know it's very subjective, but I wanted to ask you if it's also transparent to you or if you hear any artifacts?

Greets

Edit: I use AoTuV beta 5

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hybridfan
post Jul 10 2007, 11:11
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I use -q5 normally and that sounds very good in my shell likes, but yes I would say that -q4 does sound tranparent for me.


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- Be Positive   Ogg -q4 transparent to you?   Dec 26 2006, 11:32
- - ImAlive   Yes, especially with aoTuV b5, it is transparent t...   Dec 26 2006, 11:53
|- - Aoyumi   QUOTE (ImAlive @ Dec 26 2006, 19:53) BTW:...   Dec 15 2007, 03:06
- - Firon   -q2 is transparent to me in casual listening. Mayb...   Dec 26 2006, 12:03
- - Mercurio   -q3 was too hard for me to abx, so I didn't tr...   Dec 26 2006, 13:13
- - Hanky   I use Ogg Vorbis aoTuV -q 3.5 (estimated 120 kbps)...   Dec 26 2006, 13:23
- - Be Positive   QUOTE (ImAlive @ Dec 26 2006, 11:53) BTW:...   Dec 26 2006, 13:38
|- - ImAlive   QUOTE (Be Positive @ Dec 26 2006, 13:38) ...   Dec 26 2006, 14:07
- - Pio2001   At q4, I can ABX some rare tracks. I failed all tr...   Dec 26 2006, 14:06
|- - Emon   QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Dec 26 2006, 08:06) At q...   Jan 14 2007, 07:20
- - jorsol   When I start using vorbis, in 2002 (v1.0), I encod...   Dec 26 2006, 15:46
- - pepoluan   Tip from experience: Don't worry about transpa...   Dec 26 2006, 18:25
- - Junon   I recently encoded my complete CD collection to FL...   Dec 26 2006, 19:07
- - senab   I don't encode to a certain level, it depends ...   Dec 27 2006, 18:04
- - dariju   For me it is still hard to encode something lower ...   Dec 27 2006, 19:27
|- - Primius   Did you read about loseless stereo coupling at q6 ...   Dec 28 2006, 02:31
- - beto   -q2 is transparent to me in casual listening (home...   Dec 28 2006, 13:16
|- - MedO   I encode at -q6, because the second sample I ever ...   Dec 28 2006, 15:09
- - DARcode   I switched to HE-AAC for DAP/mobile listening, but...   Dec 28 2006, 16:31
- - vinnie97   -q1 is transparent enough to me.   Dec 28 2006, 19:43
- - Caroliano   Look at the results of the Public Multiformat List...   Dec 28 2006, 22:01
- - HE-Dave   It's good enough for me usually... when I...   Dec 29 2006, 01:22
- - hushypushy   I ABX'd tons of songs, and found that for the ...   Dec 29 2006, 08:28
- - TimSee   I ABX'd -q1, -q2 and -q4. I basically conclud...   Jan 4 2007, 05:37
- - goldenratiophi   I have just decided today to delete the q5's f...   Jan 5 2007, 00:31
- - michael.conner   QUOTE (Be Positive @ Dec 26 2006, 04:32) ...   Feb 8 2007, 04:53
- - TimSee   I'm -q1 all the way. I use FLAC for my home s...   Feb 8 2007, 05:18
- - Martin H   I use aoTuV-b5/Lancer encoded Vorbis track files a...   Feb 8 2007, 14:15
- - rudefyet   With aotuvb4 to b5, -q4 makes my music is transpar...   Feb 8 2007, 20:24
- - gameplaya15143   QUOTE (ImAlive @ Dec 26 2006, 05:53) BTW:...   Feb 9 2007, 01:31
- - Bourne   I did a pratical listening test to figure the supe...   Feb 10 2007, 04:03
- - shadowking   With OGG artifacts are just a bit different than m...   Feb 10 2007, 05:36
- - ChesterB   Offtopic Nice avatar shadowking Paradise Lost ar...   Feb 10 2007, 06:45
- - shadowking   Hehe.. Thanks , I want a PL tatoo !   Feb 10 2007, 09:21
- - Nikaki   I "ABX"ed with Winamp a while back. I cr...   Mar 7 2007, 10:59
- - HbG   I can ABX q2, but i'm fine with q1 for portabl...   Mar 7 2007, 13:20
|- - pepoluan   QUOTE (HbG @ Mar 7 2007, 19:20) Anyway, t...   Mar 7 2007, 16:52
|- - rockcake   QUOTE (pepoluan @ Mar 8 2007, 01:52) The ...   Mar 8 2007, 03:07
||- - pepoluan   QUOTE (rockcake @ Mar 8 2007, 09:07) Of c...   Mar 8 2007, 09:39
|- - dyneq   QUOTE (pepoluan @ Mar 7 2007, 10:52) QUOT...   Mar 8 2007, 14:04
- - DreamTactix291   I haven't been able to ABX anything encoded wi...   Mar 8 2007, 22:53
- - Raptus   QUOTE Ogg -q4 transparent to you? Not always. I ma...   Mar 20 2007, 20:56
- - pepoluan   In finality, I guess the acceptability of -q4 depe...   Mar 20 2007, 22:29
- - Zarggg   I used to use -q6 before switching to MPC for a wh...   Mar 22 2007, 02:51
- - Silversight   With most music, -q4 is transparent to me, but for...   Mar 22 2007, 09:38
|- - pepoluan   QUOTE (Silversight @ Mar 22 2007, 15:38) ...   Mar 22 2007, 17:58
|- - Raptus   QUOTE (pepoluan @ Mar 22 2007, 08:58) Tru...   Jan 4 2008, 18:02
|- - naylor83   QUOTE (Raptus @ Jan 4 2008, 18:02) I...   Jan 4 2008, 18:11
|- - pepoluan   QUOTE (Raptus @ Jan 5 2008, 00:02) QUOTE ...   Jan 4 2008, 20:13
- - zima   Absolutelly transparent. Disclaimer: Totally agai...   Mar 22 2007, 12:32
|- - Kef   Yeah it's transparent to me. I could easily ab...   Mar 22 2007, 13:31
|- - micmac   QUOTE (Kef @ Mar 22 2007, 06:31) Yeah it...   May 15 2007, 08:57
- - penvzila   For my mp3 player & headphones, -q2 is suffici...   Apr 25 2007, 03:23
|- - naylor83   QUOTE (penvzila @ Apr 25 2007, 04:23) For...   Apr 26 2007, 22:41
- - aabxx   Considering quality 0 sounds very good to me, I wo...   Jun 2 2007, 15:26
|- - CioCio   -q2 drives me crazy trying to ABX, because pretty ...   Jun 28 2007, 05:38
- - pepoluan   CioCio: Just keep your collection as it is, unless...   Jun 28 2007, 20:32
- - CioCio   QUOTE (pepoluan @ Jun 28 2007, 15:32) Cio...   Jun 29 2007, 05:59
- - hybridfan   I use -q5 normally and that sounds very good in my...   Jul 10 2007, 11:11
- - HeXeR   I usually listen to Rock and Metal, sometimes Pop,...   Jul 16 2007, 19:03
- - Whelkman   I echo the sentiments of many in saying I'm su...   Jul 31 2007, 07:02
- - slks   I'm interested. Upload these samples.   Aug 3 2007, 21:08
- - Whelkman   http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showt...   Aug 4 2007, 01:34
- - Bourne   This test is the most crazy thing I have gone thro...   Aug 28 2007, 06:54
|- - shadowking   QUOTE (Bourne @ Aug 28 2007, 15:54) This ...   Aug 28 2007, 07:34
- - Ragnarok   I agree on the most part, -q4 weather abxing or no...   Jan 2 2008, 18:36
- - Raptus   Managed to ABX some non-killer samples at q5, so I...   Jan 2 2008, 20:16
- - naylor83   Umm.... I'm definitely annoyed by artifacts. T...   Jan 4 2008, 20:26
|- - Francksoy-Wizzu   Hello all. This whole topic is what finally made...   Jan 7 2008, 03:05
|- - stevenv   QUOTE (Francksoy-Wizzu @ Jan 7 2008, 03...   Jan 11 2010, 11:09
- - dsimcha   QUOTE (Be Positive @ Dec 26 2006, 06:32) ...   Mar 30 2010, 03:55
- - RogerG   -q4 is intransparent to me using aoTuV b5.7 even w...   Jul 17 2010, 03:00


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