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Andre's EAC Offset Calculation
The Legioneer
post Nov 18 2006, 19:16
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Sorry to blatantly post a link to another thread, but I'm curious as to what the forum's take on this is:

http://www.digital-inn.de/exact-audio-copy...ay-offsets.html
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Firon
post Dec 12 2006, 04:35
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What did you test though? 30 samples of null or a song offset by 30 samples?
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- The Legioneer   Andre's EAC Offset Calculation   Nov 18 2006, 19:16
- - GeSomeone   I'd say it's interesting, but Andre is rig...   Nov 18 2006, 19:53
- - greynol   I have yet to dive into the discussion and links, ...   Nov 18 2006, 20:17
- - The Legioneer   Without question, I understand Andre's point o...   Nov 18 2006, 20:45
- - Firon   Eh, 30 samples really is nothing.   Nov 18 2006, 22:47
- - rh2600   I wonder if there could just be a checkbox in the ...   Nov 18 2006, 23:54
- - damaki   Couldn't those 30 samples create problems if a...   Nov 18 2006, 23:55
- - pdq   In order to make a bit-perfect copy one must alway...   Nov 19 2006, 05:36
- - spoon   30 samples is really a non issue, and those 30 sam...   Nov 19 2006, 09:14
- - HbG   But they don't read for the purpose of storing...   Nov 19 2006, 12:31
- - Martin H   It's a well-known fact that different CD-DA ma...   Nov 19 2006, 17:11
|- - Pio2001   QUOTE (Martin H @ Nov 19 2006, 17:11) htt...   Nov 19 2006, 23:35
|- - bhoar   As for the AR issue, I wouldn't be surprised i...   Nov 20 2006, 01:13
|- - greynol   What part of this did you guys not read? QUOTE (P...   Nov 23 2006, 16:52
|- - Martin H   QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Nov 19 2006, 23:35) [......   Dec 11 2006, 17:07
- - spoon   You have 8 million tracks submitted to the databas...   Nov 20 2006, 09:31
|- - greynol   QUOTE (spoon @ Nov 20 2006, 00:31) You ha...   Nov 20 2006, 20:01
- - dv1989   This is very interesting . . . one to watch for me...   Nov 20 2006, 21:39
- - Martin H   My vote defenetly goes for keeping the current ref...   Nov 21 2006, 12:42
- - dv1989   As I understand, manufacturers can press CD's ...   Nov 22 2006, 00:23
|- - GeSomeone   QUOTE (dv1989 @ Nov 22 2006, 01:23) ...Pl...   Nov 25 2006, 00:46
- - The Legioneer   Thanks for everyone's answers on the subject. ...   Nov 22 2006, 02:53
- - greynol   QUOTE (dv1989 @ Nov 21 2006, 15:23) Howev...   Nov 22 2006, 03:33
- - Spare Tire   There are no CRC database for image+cue yet so i...   Nov 23 2006, 06:48
- - Cosmo   If it was corrected to true zero, what percent of ...   Nov 23 2006, 09:19
- - Pio2001   What does "bit perfect" mean to you ? F...   Nov 23 2006, 12:39
|- - Cosmo   QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Nov 23 2006, 06:39) What...   Nov 23 2006, 15:07
- - Sebastian Mares   I think he means having an exact image of the audi...   Nov 23 2006, 13:22
|- - kwanbis   I never understood this obsession with having a ...   Nov 23 2006, 14:20
|- - bhoar   QUOTE (kwanbis @ Nov 23 2006, 09:20) I ne...   Nov 23 2006, 20:23
|- - pepoluan   QUOTE (kwanbis @ Nov 23 2006, 20:20) I ne...   Dec 11 2006, 17:16
|- - Cartoon   QUOTE (pepoluan @ Dec 11 2006, 17:16) QUO...   Dec 11 2006, 19:00
- - Moitah   For what it's worth, I used a method similar t...   Nov 23 2006, 14:44
- - Martin H   It's nearly always possible to get all the aud...   Nov 23 2006, 14:52
- - Moitah   I should have worded that last sentence differentl...   Nov 23 2006, 17:19
- - greynol   QUOTE (Moitah @ Nov 23 2006, 08:19) I don...   Nov 23 2006, 17:31
- - Sebastian Mares   I am a bit confused and hope that you can help me ...   Nov 23 2006, 20:40
|- - The Legioneer   QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Nov 23 2006, 14...   Nov 23 2006, 21:20
||- - Martin H   QUOTE (The Legioneer @ Nov 23 2006, 21:20...   Nov 24 2006, 11:50
|- - Pio2001   QUOTE (Moitah @ Nov 23 2006, 14:44) For w...   Nov 24 2006, 00:38
|- - Sebastian Mares   QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Nov 24 2006, 00:38) In o...   Nov 24 2006, 07:10
|- - Pio2001   QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Nov 24 2006, 07...   Nov 24 2006, 12:59
- - Sebastian Mares   Ah, I see, so the problem is finding out how to de...   Nov 23 2006, 21:57
- - Sebastian Mares   I would answer all questions with "yes"....   Nov 24 2006, 17:48
|- - Pio2001   QUOTE (benski @ Nov 24 2006, 20:37) QUOTE...   Nov 25 2006, 00:36
- - dv1989   Then, without manually checking pregaps and lead-i...   Nov 24 2006, 17:55
- - Sebastian Mares   Wondering about one thing... I remember burning a ...   Nov 24 2006, 18:31
|- - benski   QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Nov 24 2006, 12...   Nov 24 2006, 18:56
- - greynol   QUOTE (bhoar @ Nov 23 2006, 11:23) QUOTE ...   Nov 24 2006, 20:25
|- - Sebastian Mares   QUOTE (greynol @ Nov 24 2006, 20:25) It i...   Nov 24 2006, 21:20
|- - greynol   QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Nov 24 2006, 12...   Nov 24 2006, 21:33
- - Sebastian Mares   So Nero CD/DVD Speed also relies on EAC's calc...   Nov 24 2006, 20:26
|- - benski   QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Nov 24 2006, 14...   Nov 24 2006, 20:37
- - Sebastian Mares   One more thing - do Plextors have a 0 samples read...   Nov 24 2006, 22:42
|- - greynol   QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Nov 24 2006, 13...   Nov 24 2006, 22:55
- - Sebastian Mares   But what do you do with drives that have asymmetri...   Nov 24 2006, 23:14
- - greynol   Just follow the regular equation: write samples o...   Nov 24 2006, 23:45
- - Sebastian Mares   To be honest, I guess I will dump this whole offse...   Nov 24 2006, 23:49
- - greynol   From what I understand, Andre used the median valu...   Nov 25 2006, 00:22
- - IpseDixit   QUOTE Did Ipsedixit by any means used Plextor (par...   Nov 25 2006, 05:23
- - Pio2001   If you mean the drive used for the experiment, it ...   Nov 25 2006, 13:07
- - rh2600   Does this issue only effect the first 30 samples o...   Nov 25 2006, 23:03
- - Sebastian Mares   It affects either the first or the last track.   Nov 25 2006, 23:07
- - greynol   QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Nov 25 2006, 14...   Nov 25 2006, 23:20
- - Sebastian Mares   I was referring to data being lost, sorry. Of cour...   Nov 25 2006, 23:50
- - rh2600   Oh ok, so in theory, the 30 samples that should be...   Nov 26 2006, 00:21
- - greynol   QUOTE (rh2600 @ Nov 25 2006, 15:21) is th...   Nov 26 2006, 01:15
- - Sebastian Mares   For a moment I thought you mean "no, data wil...   Nov 26 2006, 10:00
- - Spare Tire   If you rip only certain tracks, then you could say...   Nov 27 2006, 04:06
- - greynol   QUOTE (Spare Tire @ Nov 26 2006, 19:06) I...   Nov 27 2006, 08:12
- - dv1989   Do skew or the corrected offset affect the accurac...   Nov 27 2006, 12:17
|- - The Legioneer   QUOTE (greynol @ Nov 27 2006, 02:12) Thin...   Nov 28 2006, 04:24
|- - greynol   QUOTE (The Legioneer @ Nov 27 2006, 19:24...   Nov 28 2006, 09:51
|- - The Legioneer   QUOTE (greynol @ Nov 28 2006, 03:51) QUOT...   Nov 28 2006, 12:38
- - Spare Tire   QUOTE (greynol @ Nov 27 2006, 02:12) IMO,...   Nov 28 2006, 06:35
- - greynol   QUOTE (Spare Tire @ Nov 27 2006, 21:35) W...   Nov 28 2006, 08:40
- - Pio2001   I prefer the analogy of the needle. When someone u...   Nov 29 2006, 01:05
|- - greynol   QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Nov 28 2006, 16:05) But ...   Nov 29 2006, 01:14
- - dv1989   So, who is thinking of adopting this new reference...   Dec 11 2006, 16:38
|- - evereux   QUOTE (dv1989 @ Dec 11 2006, 15:38) So, w...   Dec 11 2006, 19:49
||- - greynol   QUOTE (evereux @ Dec 11 2006, 10:49) I kn...   Dec 11 2006, 19:55
|- - GeSomeone   QUOTE (dv1989 @ Dec 11 2006, 17:38) So, w...   Dec 12 2006, 16:25
- - dv1989   Martin, I agree; any more light shed by such knowl...   Dec 11 2006, 17:19
- - Martin H   QUOTE (Cartoon)So why should I care about bit-perf...   Dec 11 2006, 19:11
|- - Cartoon   QUOTE (Martin H @ Dec 11 2006, 19:11) QUO...   Dec 11 2006, 21:26
- - greynol   This new reference isn't going to give you cop...   Dec 11 2006, 19:16
- - pepoluan   As if that is audible anyway. HA upholds audibili...   Dec 11 2006, 19:33
- - greynol   The ability to ABX a track that is offset by 30 sa...   Dec 11 2006, 19:41
- - Firon   But what if those 30 samples are null? Can you ABX...   Dec 11 2006, 21:17
- - dv1989   This is beginning to remind me of Aquarium's p...   Dec 12 2006, 00:19
- - greynol   In case that was directed at me, here are my ABX r...   Dec 12 2006, 04:19
- - Firon   What did you test though? 30 samples of null or a ...   Dec 12 2006, 04:35
- - greynol   The end of a track just prior to the beginning of ...   Dec 12 2006, 08:37
- - evereux   You do realise that the audiophile crowd (those wh...   Dec 12 2006, 10:23
- - Martin H   Personally i will continue to use Andre's refe...   Dec 12 2006, 16:50
- - DrazardX   All of this reminds me of something I wanted to tr...   Dec 13 2006, 23:20
- - greynol   QUOTE (evereux @ Dec 12 2006, 01:23) You ...   Dec 14 2006, 00:24
- - DrazardX   I didn't think you could mount the images beca...   Dec 14 2006, 01:51
- - greynol   QUOTE (DrazardX @ Dec 13 2006, 16:51) I d...   Dec 14 2006, 03:30
- - Cosmo   QUOTE (DrazardX @ Dec 13 2006, 19:51) I d...   Dec 14 2006, 03:44
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