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jcoalson
post Oct 10 2006, 17:18
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The first (and hopefully only) beta for FLAC 1.1.3 is ready. Usually I don't do betas but there are a lot of new things. See the changelog.

One thing that I'm pretty sure will come up is how flac handles legacy WAVEFORMATEX files with odd bit depths (WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE should work fine) and multi-channel files. if you have WAVE or AIFF files that flac refuses, let me know here so I can zero in on how to handle the wierd ones. Any other feedback is also welcome.

You can get the source tarball, or binaries for windows:
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/flac/fl...tar.gz?download
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/flac/fl...in.zip?download
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/flac/fl...in.zip?download
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http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=13478

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2f305538a17e35d8153a34423c508dbf  flac-1.1.3-beta1-devel-win.zip
6d43afc5a44015d8fa13fcd6767b1e25  flac-1.1.3-beta1-win.zip
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Egor
post Oct 10 2006, 18:47
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Great work, very cool!

QUOTE (changelog)
WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE channel mask is also saved to a tag on encoding and restored on decoding for situations when there is no natural mapping to FLAC channel assignments.

What is the tag name/format? (I couldn't find it in the new documentation.)

QUOTE (options - apodization)
The encoder chooses suitable defaults in the absence of any -A options; any -A option specified replaces the default(s).

How does it choose? Is it always tukey(0.5)? smile.gif
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jcoalson
post Oct 10 2006, 19:41
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QUOTE (Egor @ Oct 10 2006, 12:47) *
QUOTE (changelog)
WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE channel mask is also saved to a tag on encoding and restored on decoding for situations when there is no natural mapping to FLAC channel assignments.

What is the tag name/format? (I couldn't find it in the new documentation.)

WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE_CHANNEL_MASK

QUOTE (Egor @ Oct 10 2006, 12:47) *
QUOTE (options - apodization)
The encoder chooses suitable defaults in the absence of any -A options; any -A option specified replaces the default(s).

How does it choose? Is it always tukey(0.5)? smile.gif

right now, yes smile.gif but it may get smarter.

QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ Oct 10 2006, 13:08) *
Have you given up on the idea of -9 Josh?

no, just saving it for something good (which I haven't come up with yet)

QUOTE (haregoo @ Oct 10 2006, 13:23) *
1.1.3b1 consumes more bits especially on short sample(less than 30sec) than 1.1.2. I always use default setting(-5).
Is this because of redundant data for recovery?

no, there's no redundant data, the only thing that should cause that is the new default padding size of 8k (was 4k in 1.1.2). is the difference more than that? you can always change the amount of padding with -P

Josh


P.S. the other thing that I would like to know is how good the --picture option is at automatically extracting the correct resolution/color info from gif/jpg/png files. if it chokes or gets it wrong, send me the file and I'll try to improve the detection code.

Josh
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- jcoalson   FLAC 1.1.3 beta1 available   Oct 10 2006, 17:18
- - Axon   Dayumn. We like, couldn't call this 1.2 or 2.0...   Oct 10 2006, 18:07
- - jcoalson   http://flac.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*...ease_...   Oct 10 2006, 18:15
- - Egor   Great work, very cool! QUOTE (changelog)WAVEF...   Oct 10 2006, 18:47
|- - jcoalson   QUOTE (Egor @ Oct 10 2006, 12:47) QUOTE (...   Oct 10 2006, 19:41
|- - haregoo   QUOTE (jcoalson @ Oct 11 2006, 03:41) QUO...   Oct 10 2006, 19:48
- - Synthetic Soul   Have you given up on the idea of -9 Josh? (NB: I ...   Oct 10 2006, 19:08
- - haregoo   1.1.3b1 consumes more bits especially on short sam...   Oct 10 2006, 19:23
- - .halverhahn   Just a cosmetic difference: Encoding with option -...   Oct 10 2006, 20:18
|- - jcoalson   QUOTE (.halverhahn @ Oct 10 2006, 14:18) ...   Oct 11 2006, 07:35
- - madoka@ex-sounds   Just one sample (CHOIR OF ALL SAINTS, HONIRA - Jis...   Oct 10 2006, 21:35
|- - Egor   QUOTE (madoka@ex-sounds @ Oct 11 2006, 0...   Oct 10 2006, 22:04
- - skelly831   wooyay! thanks Josh!   Oct 10 2006, 22:41
- - Wombat   Nice news --best plays fine on my Squeezebox. Si...   Oct 10 2006, 23:44
- - TBeck   I don't know, if this is the right place to po...   Oct 11 2006, 03:22
- - spies   I am having trouble creating binaries of FLAC 1.1....   Oct 11 2006, 07:48
- - jcoalson   yeah, I have not tried building it on my ibook yet...   Oct 11 2006, 08:10
|- - ffooky   QUOTE (jcoalson @ Oct 11 2006, 08:10) yea...   Oct 11 2006, 10:30
- - sshd   I get the following warning message on a 192/24/2 ...   Oct 11 2006, 11:05
|- - Egor   QUOTE (sshd @ Oct 11 2006, 17:05) I get t...   Oct 11 2006, 11:30
|- - jcoalson   QUOTE (sshd @ Oct 11 2006, 05:05) I get t...   Oct 11 2006, 16:11
|- - ffooky   QUOTE (jcoalson @ Oct 11 2006, 16:11) QUO...   Oct 11 2006, 16:30
|- - pepoluan   QUOTE (jcoalson @ Oct 11 2006, 22:11) QUO...   Oct 11 2006, 16:40
|- - spies   QUOTE (jcoalson @ Oct 11 2006, 08:11) ok,...   Oct 11 2006, 17:32
|- - probedb   QUOTE (jcoalson @ Oct 11 2006, 16:11) the...   Oct 12 2006, 14:40
- - probedb   Does this include the Winamp plugin, and has this ...   Oct 11 2006, 12:42
- - jaybeee   QUOTE (FLAC 1.1.3 beta 1 Changelog)flac now suppor...   Oct 11 2006, 13:17
- - spoon   >WAVEFORMATEX does only support 8 and 16 bit re...   Oct 11 2006, 13:49
- - aharden   I have some 24/96/6ch music content that I had com...   Oct 11 2006, 13:57
- - Speek   After installing FLAC 1.1.3 beta1 on Slackware (gc...   Oct 11 2006, 15:06
- - spies   QUOTE (jcoalson @ Oct 11 2006, 00:10) yea...   Oct 11 2006, 15:32
- - pepoluan   Josh, What about licensing issues that prevents F...   Oct 11 2006, 15:41
- - jcoalson   @ffooky: looks like you will have to pass --disabl...   Oct 11 2006, 18:00
|- - ffooky   Thanks Josh, got it rolling now.   Oct 11 2006, 18:18
- - iGold   Nice version, good compression bonus and pictures ...   Oct 11 2006, 18:24
- - spies   QUOTE (jcoalson @ Oct 11 2006, 10:00) @sp...   Oct 11 2006, 18:26
- - Synthetic Soul   Some results for my TAK corpus: CODE | 1.1.2 ...   Oct 11 2006, 19:33
- - CyberFoxx   Heh, from the results that other people have been ...   Oct 11 2006, 21:11
- - spies   FLAC as an input to FLAC works great! Makes it...   Oct 12 2006, 00:13
|- - jcoalson   QUOTE (spies @ Oct 11 2006, 18:13) FLAC a...   Oct 12 2006, 02:13
|- - drbeachboy   QUOTE (spies @ Oct 11 2006, 19:13) FLAC a...   Oct 12 2006, 02:40
|- - spies   QUOTE (drbeachboy @ Oct 11 2006, 18:40) H...   Oct 12 2006, 02:58
- - Wombat   I like the new version also but i wonder about the...   Oct 12 2006, 01:02
- - Wombat   QUOTE (jcoalson @ Oct 12 2006, 03:13) I h...   Oct 12 2006, 02:48
- - A_Man_Eating_Duck   When you encode with flac using files with long na...   Oct 12 2006, 08:34
|- - Egor   QUOTE (A_Man_Eating_Duck @ Oct 12 2006, 14...   Oct 12 2006, 09:01
- - eloj   More recompression results (-8, new files /w 4096 ...   Oct 13 2006, 02:30
- - Paws   I've tested this with flac frontend and works ...   Oct 13 2006, 18:25
|- - gapetto   QUOTE (Paws @ Oct 13 2006, 12:25) I'v...   Oct 13 2006, 19:19
- - Paws   nope , but i searched and there is on flac.exe in ...   Oct 13 2006, 19:30
|- - Synthetic Soul   QUOTE (Paws @ Oct 13 2006, 19:30) nope , ...   Oct 13 2006, 22:23
- - Paws   Thats all i needed to do, thanks. FLAC is awesome   Oct 17 2006, 18:30
|- - Wombat   Just noticed that 1.1.3beta2 is up on sourceforge....   Oct 17 2006, 18:37
- - jcoalson   yes, the difference is in the API, I have merged l...   Oct 17 2006, 19:53
|- - Wombat   One thing i noticed. If i encode with Flac-Fronten...   Oct 17 2006, 20:04
- - iGold   Beta2 doesn't want to work under x86_64 linux,...   Oct 17 2006, 20:13
- - madoka@ex-sounds   beta2 dosen't work ogg-FLAC CODEoptions...   Oct 18 2006, 09:15
|- - jcoalson   QUOTE (Wombat @ Oct 17 2006, 14:04) One t...   Oct 18 2006, 17:42
|- - Wombat   QUOTE (jcoalson @ Oct 18 2006, 18:42) QUO...   Oct 18 2006, 18:12
||- - jcoalson   QUOTE (Wombat @ Oct 18 2006, 12:12) QUOTE...   Oct 18 2006, 19:41
|- - madoka@ex-sounds   QUOTE (jcoalson @ Oct 18 2006, 08:42) QUO...   Oct 18 2006, 18:40
- - DrGreen   Thanks for the new improvements. I've been pl...   Oct 18 2006, 22:05
|- - iGold   QUOTE (DrGreen @ Oct 19 2006, 03:05) it w...   Oct 19 2006, 03:08
- - jcoalson   yeah, that's on the TODO but I didn't want...   Oct 18 2006, 22:14
|- - smz   QUOTE (jcoalson @ Oct 18 2006, 23:14) yea...   Oct 18 2006, 22:23
|- - jcoalson   QUOTE (smz @ Oct 18 2006, 16:23) QUOTE (j...   Oct 22 2006, 18:16
|- - Jose Hidalgo   QUOTE (jcoalson @ Oct 22 2006, 18:16) hmm...   Oct 22 2006, 22:24
- - DrGreen   glad to know that thanks once again   Oct 18 2006, 22:24
- - JWolf   Please please please do us (those of us who want t...   Oct 22 2006, 01:16
|- - kjoonlee   QUOTE (JWolf @ Oct 22 2006, 09:16) Please...   Oct 22 2006, 14:18
- - Jose Hidalgo   JWolf, what are you saying ? The size of the emb...   Oct 22 2006, 12:40
- - Lashiec   Josh, I'm just curious. Why the size increase ...   Oct 25 2006, 10:10
|- - Egor   QUOTE (Lashiec @ Oct 25 2006, 16:10) Why ...   Oct 25 2006, 15:32
|- - Lashiec   QUOTE (Egor @ Oct 25 2006, 16:32) QUOTE (...   Oct 26 2006, 12:47
- - Jose Hidalgo   How is this beta going ? Can we expect a 1.1.3 Fin...   Oct 26 2006, 12:56
|- - jcoalson   QUOTE (Jose Hidalgo @ Oct 26 2006, 06:56)...   Oct 26 2006, 16:10
- - Synthetic Soul   Discussion regarding conversion of 1.1.2 to 1.1.3 ...   Oct 27 2006, 20:15
- - gharris999   Josh: I'm adding my vote for a "--export-...   Oct 28 2006, 00:36
- - WaldoMonster   Could wildcard support be implemented for Windows ...   Oct 29 2006, 12:26
- - goodnews   Josh, Thanks for working on this new FLAC update....   Nov 1 2006, 14:40
- - jcoalson   ok, but if it's just a tag you can already emb...   Nov 1 2006, 17:12
|- - goodnews   QUOTE (jcoalson @ Nov 1 2006, 10:12) ok, ...   Nov 1 2006, 17:35
|- - Egor   QUOTE (goodnews @ Nov 1 2006, 22:35) I gu...   Nov 1 2006, 18:55
|- - goodnews   QUOTE (Egor @ Nov 1 2006, 11:55) QUOTE (g...   Nov 1 2006, 21:20
- - jcoalson   I would recommend LYRICS as the most logical choic...   Nov 2 2006, 05:10
|- - goodnews   QUOTE (jcoalson @ Nov 1 2006, 22:10) I wo...   Nov 2 2006, 05:33
|- - tycho   QUOTE (jcoalson @ Nov 1 2006, 20:10) I wo...   Nov 2 2006, 11:59
|- - Maurits   QUOTE (jcoalson @ Nov 2 2006, 05:10) I wo...   Nov 2 2006, 12:33
|- - gharris999   QUOTE (jcoalson @ Nov 1 2006, 21:10) I wo...   Nov 3 2006, 18:46
- - Jose Hidalgo   I'd just like to go +1 with goodnews. It's...   Nov 3 2006, 16:07
- - kritip   so you can import and now export....does export de...   Nov 5 2006, 11:44
|- - Egor   QUOTE (kritip @ Nov 5 2006, 16:44) so you...   Nov 5 2006, 18:21
- - JWolf   Any idea how much longer until 1.1.3 is an officia...   Nov 5 2006, 15:51
- - ffooky   Josh, I just tried compiling beta2 and it hangs du...   Nov 5 2006, 19:28
- - Egor   Regarding multichannel WAVE_FORMAT_EX files I sug...   Nov 5 2006, 23:57
- - JWolf   QUOTE (jcoalson @ Oct 30 2006, 01:07) ok,...   Nov 7 2006, 00:23
- - jcoalson   no, it's not an error, see my explanation here...   Nov 7 2006, 00:49
|- - ffooky   QUOTE (jcoalson @ Nov 7 2006, 00:49) ugh,...   Nov 7 2006, 01:34
|- - Egor   QUOTE (jcoalson @ Nov 7 2006, 05:49) ok, ...   Nov 7 2006, 06:13
- - anticrust   One small problem with version info. I use flac.ex...   Nov 7 2006, 07:51
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