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WOW, Monkey's Audio is still the best, Ya better believe it
adlai
post Sep 22 2006, 23:35
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I did a comparison between Flac, Wavpack, and Monkey's Audio. I'm a longtime MAC user, but I've been considering replacing it with something else.

Monkey's Audio still has the smallest file sizes, and the fastest compression. On a test sample, the FLAC file was around 53 MB, the Wavpack was 51, and the Monkey's Audio was 47. Additionally, the monkey's audio on a whole encoded at a faster rate.

Yes, I know that FLAC and Wavpack have features that MAC doesn't, most noticably lossy and better seeking. However, I use lossless only for archival purposes-- I rarely actually listen to the files, and so, I have to say that monkey's audio is still the best smile.gif
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guruboolez
post Sep 24 2006, 15:19
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Just transcode one reference file into FLAC format smile.gif


EDIT: dry.gif There are apparently padded datas at "00000800h". I tried to disable it (-P 0... is that right) but it doesn't work.

EDIT2: --no-padding doesn't give the expected result either... I should "corrupt" the file in another position.

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- adlai   WOW, Monkey's Audio is still the best   Sep 22 2006, 23:35
- - pest   QUOTE that monkey's audio is still the best ...   Sep 22 2006, 23:44
- - HbG   I'm not so sure about the fastest. Flake is a ...   Sep 22 2006, 23:48
|- - Shade[ST]   And wait until you try out TAK (Yalac)   Sep 23 2006, 01:01
- - kanak   Totally agree with shade. i'm so excited by th...   Sep 23 2006, 04:07
- - Mangix   OptimFROG should be able to compress better than M...   Sep 23 2006, 04:13
- - LANjackal   QUOTE (adlai @ Sep 22 2006, 18:35) Yes, I...   Sep 23 2006, 06:48
|- - Duble0Syx   QUOTE (LANjackal @ Sep 22 2006, 21:48) QU...   Sep 23 2006, 07:38
- - halb27   When I did lossless archiving I was very happy wit...   Sep 23 2006, 09:43
- - evereux   Here's some informative links on Lossless code...   Sep 23 2006, 09:44
|- - halb27   QUOTE (evereux @ Sep 23 2006, 10:44) Here...   Sep 23 2006, 10:03
- - guruboolez   QUOTE (adlai @ Sep 23 2006, 00:35) Monkey...   Sep 23 2006, 09:57
- - Leo 69   QUOTE Error handling (decoding after media corrupt...   Sep 23 2006, 10:09
|- - seanyseansean   QUOTE (Leo 69 @ Sep 23 2006, 10:09) QUOTE...   Sep 23 2006, 10:21
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (Leo 69 @ Sep 23 2006, 11:09) QUOTE...   Sep 23 2006, 10:32
- - spoon   >c4000/5000 profiles only files are usually suf...   Sep 23 2006, 11:05
|- - rjamorim   QUOTE (spoon @ Sep 23 2006, 07:05) The wh...   Sep 23 2006, 17:35
|- - greynol   QUOTE (rjamorim @ Sep 23 2006, 09:35) Nop...   Sep 23 2006, 18:00
|- - Steve J.   QUOTE (rjamorim @ Sep 23 2006, 11:35) QUO...   May 2 2007, 19:30
|- - kanak   QUOTE (Steve J. @ May 2 2007, 13:30) QUOT...   May 2 2007, 20:04
|- - Keykey   QUOTE (Steve J. @ May 2 2007, 20:30) Anyo...   May 2 2007, 21:24
- - guruboolez   I got completely different results with FLAC/WavPa...   Sep 23 2006, 11:23
|- - greynol   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Sep 23 2006, 03:23) I...   Sep 23 2006, 17:27
- - askoff   MAC doesn't seem to be available for Linux or ...   Sep 23 2006, 13:06
- - guruboolez   Monkey's code is avaible since 2003 or 2004. L...   Sep 23 2006, 13:09
|- - IgorC   Well. Monkey is 5% more efficient than FLAC SVN 20...   Sep 23 2006, 14:44
|- - MedO   QUOTE (IgorC @ Sep 23 2006, 15:44) Well. ...   Sep 23 2006, 15:23
- - askoff   I see. I haven't seen that before. Well I have...   Sep 23 2006, 14:40
- - LoFiYo   If you are worried about the filesize only, LA may...   Sep 23 2006, 16:51
- - shadowking   Yeah, way too paranoid - unless you sold your CD...   Sep 23 2006, 18:14
- - greynol   Some people are under the assumption that it is im...   Sep 23 2006, 18:18
- - guruboolez   Decoding is possible but the loss is more importan...   Sep 23 2006, 18:41
- - greynol   I know what you said, guruboolez; and in light of ...   Sep 23 2006, 18:51
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (greynol @ Sep 23 2006, 19:51) I kn...   Sep 23 2006, 19:06
- - greynol   You are talking in shades of gray. That portion o...   Sep 23 2006, 19:47
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (greynol @ Sep 23 2006, 20:47) No m...   Sep 23 2006, 20:03
- - greynol   QUOTE Is "BS FUD" a simple synonymous of...   Sep 23 2006, 20:24
|- - sld   QUOTE (greynol @ Sep 24 2006, 03:24) We...   Sep 23 2006, 23:04
|- - Digisurfer   QUOTE (sld @ Sep 23 2006, 16:04) In the s...   Sep 26 2006, 04:08
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (Digisurfer @ Sep 26 2006, 05:08) F...   Sep 26 2006, 06:36
- - Digisurfer   I've been using Monkey's Audio for close t...   Sep 23 2006, 21:09
- - greynol   Do you honestly want me to start citing all the un...   Sep 24 2006, 00:46
|- - beto   QUOTE (greynol @ Sep 23 2006, 20:46) Now,...   Sep 24 2006, 14:09
- - Duble0Syx   I think the whole point of this topic is basically...   Sep 24 2006, 01:17
- - greynol   Barring how one would subjectively weight certain ...   Sep 24 2006, 01:55
|- - jido   QUOTE (greynol @ Sep 23 2006, 16:55) I am...   Sep 24 2006, 12:02
- - Destroid   MAC is still the best lossless codec (that I can r...   Sep 24 2006, 03:33
- - guruboolez   I've just checked MAC 4.01 latest build error ...   Sep 24 2006, 14:20
|- - TBeck   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Sep 24 2006, 15:20) R...   Sep 24 2006, 14:48
- - guruboolez   Hmmm... I forgot to mention that I tried with MAC....   Sep 24 2006, 14:56
- - spoon   I would like to see the test with FLAC as well. ...   Sep 24 2006, 15:12
- - guruboolez   Just transcode one reference file into FLAC format...   Sep 24 2006, 15:19
- - Fandango   Interestingly this is what the "File Integrit...   Sep 24 2006, 15:22
|- - haregoo   It seems that FB2K's wv decoder can't dete...   Sep 24 2006, 16:11
- - guruboolez   I just tried with FLAC. Due to what seems to be a ...   Sep 24 2006, 15:45
|- - Fandango   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Sep 24 2006, 16:45) E...   Sep 24 2006, 16:18
- - greynol   I tried the MAC sample and verified the results. ...   Sep 24 2006, 19:16
|- - TBeck   QUOTE (greynol @ Sep 24 2006, 20:16) To m...   Sep 24 2006, 19:31
||- - pest   The reason why Monkey uses large frames (up to 4s ...   Sep 24 2006, 19:47
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (greynol @ Sep 24 2006, 20:16) To m...   Sep 24 2006, 19:53
|- - greynol   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Sep 24 2006, 11:53) ...   Sep 25 2006, 07:06
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (greynol @ Sep 25 2006, 08:06) I do...   Sep 25 2006, 17:02
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|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (Leo 69 @ Sep 24 2006, 21:01) gurub...   Sep 24 2006, 20:16
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- - Leo 69   Well, the reasons for avoiding Monkey's audio ...   Sep 24 2006, 21:38
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (Leo 69 @ Sep 24 2006, 22:38) Well,...   Sep 24 2006, 21:49
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|- - TBeck   QUOTE (bryant @ Sep 24 2006, 23:58) This ...   Sep 24 2006, 23:35
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|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (greynol @ Sep 25 2006, 19:00) My p...   Sep 25 2006, 18:52
- - greynol   QUOTE Don't forget that there's no compara...   Sep 25 2006, 19:15
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (greynol @ Sep 25 2006, 20:15) I gu...   Sep 25 2006, 19:22
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- - Maglor   Hi all! I've been reading a lot of posts l...   Mar 24 2007, 14:31
- - Agrajag   Guys, glad to see this being discussed. I have ab...   Mar 28 2007, 06:33
|- - jcoalson   QUOTE (Agrajag @ Mar 28 2007, 00:33) Do I...   Mar 28 2007, 16:25
|- - Agrajag   QUOTE (jcoalson @ Mar 28 2007, 07:25) wha...   Mar 28 2007, 19:22
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