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post Sep 12 2006, 18:16
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Apple's Steve Jobs during a live press conference in San Francisco currently going on (at 10AM PST today, Tuesday, Sept. 12th) just announced a feature on iPods that will be sure to please audio enthusiasts -- GAPLESS PLAYBACK!

More details to follow. New iPods to be released. Please update this thread as the new iPods and GAPLESS info is released. This is taken from a live IRC transcript with iLounge reporters inside the Apple news event today.

See below for later posts for details on new iTunes 7, new iPod models/pricing/features, larger iPod video format, new set top wireless mac mini-like box for audio/video and more from this Apple press event.

Link to Quicktime presentation of this media event announcing these products that you can watch:
http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/sep_...vent/index.html

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Axon
post Sep 12 2006, 23:35
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I just tried reencoding an album I had originally encoded in Nero AAC. I tried iTunes AAC, 128kbps, VBR enabled. The gap sounds more or less just like with Nero - it's rather light, and doesn't affect the tempo of the music, but it is definitely always there.

Based on these off the cuff tests, I'm willing to conclude this for good, without going to objective testing - iTunes does not provide a true gapless implementation. Or, if it does, it's broken.

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post Sep 13 2006, 00:53
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QUOTE (Axon @ Sep 12 2006, 23:35) *
Based on these off the cuff tests, I'm willing to conclude this for good, without going to objective testing - iTunes does not provide a true gapless implementation. Or, if it does, it's broken.


Oh well it's at least better than it was :/

Have you tried with ALAC which damn well ought to be able to be played back gapless, if it can't then they should remove the L from the acronym.
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post Sep 13 2006, 01:16
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QUOTE (chelgrian @ Sep 12 2006, 16:53) *
Have you tried with ALAC which damn well ought to be able to be played back gapless, if it can't then they should remove the L from the acronym.

AAC?


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post Sep 13 2006, 01:48
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QUOTE (skelly831 @ Sep 12 2006, 20:16) *
AAC?

He's referring to Apple Lossless.

I've got all my music encoded as Apple Lossless and I'll be darned if I can hear any pauses now.

Between gapless playback, the new cover flip view, and the set-top box that will be coming out in Q1 '07, I'm a happy camper with no plans to miss my Monkey's Audio or FLAC days. smile.gif

Jay

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QUOTE (PigsOnTheWing @ Sep 12 2006, 17:48) *
QUOTE (skelly831 @ Sep 12 2006, 20:16) *
AAC?

He's referring to Apple Lossless.

I was pointing out that if they removed the L from ALAC you would have AAC.


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- goodnews   GAPLESS Playback now in iPods - New!   Sep 12 2006, 18:16
- - SebastianG   Question is: Do they comply with already existant ...   Sep 12 2006, 18:19
|- - goodnews   Also new iPods released. brighter with brightness...   Sep 12 2006, 18:23
||- - Remedial Sound   And will gapless playback be possible for older iP...   Sep 12 2006, 18:31
||- - goodnews   QUOTE (Remedial Sound @ Sep 12 2006, 11:3...   Sep 12 2006, 18:37
|- - /mnt   QUOTE (SebastianG @ Sep 12 2006, 18:19) Q...   Sep 12 2006, 18:42
|- - kwanbis   QUOTE (SebastianG @ Sep 12 2006, 17:19) Q...   Sep 12 2006, 20:07
- - Skates   Just maybe we will get the update on our current 5...   Sep 12 2006, 18:34
- - guruboolez   (opera lover inside) This is an excellent new...   Sep 12 2006, 19:19
- - Maurits   iTunes7: "Determining Gapless Playback Infor...   Sep 12 2006, 19:27
|- - guruboolez   @Maurits Is it possible for you to encode some sa...   Sep 12 2006, 19:53
|- - eofor   Any word on HE-AAC?   Sep 12 2006, 19:56
|- - Maurits   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Sep 12 2006, 19:53) @...   Sep 12 2006, 19:58
- - Skates   I wonder if and when there will be an update for t...   Sep 12 2006, 19:47
|- - Maurits   QUOTE (Skates @ Sep 12 2006, 19:47) I won...   Sep 12 2006, 19:52
- - Rain   Hope current 5G iPods get a new firmware update fo...   Sep 12 2006, 20:02
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- - /mnt   I just tried itunes 7. It scans and adds gapless p...   Sep 12 2006, 20:05
|- - loophole   QUOTE (/mnt @ Sep 12 2006, 11:05) I just ...   Sep 12 2006, 20:11
|- - /mnt   QUOTE (loophole @ Sep 12 2006, 20:11) QUO...   Sep 12 2006, 20:18
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- - rudefyet   i was just notified by iTunes 7, iPod Video Firmwa...   Sep 12 2006, 20:46
|- - DickxLaurent   QUOTE (rudefyet @ Sep 12 2006, 14:46) i w...   Sep 12 2006, 20:49
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|- - michael.conner   QUOTE (Axon @ Sep 12 2006, 14:55) It...   Sep 12 2006, 22:19
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