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Squeller
post Aug 8 2006, 09:10
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The last article in the mpc forums is from July 1st. This is more than dead.

Isn't it time to remove the direct links to mpc forums? mpc is like a dead limb in ha.

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post Aug 8 2006, 22:50
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...obvious trolling

From Shy, indeed... Or is it for me?

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no. just like every other format doesn't exist solely for illegal usage. i have about 100GB of legal live music in musepack format, for instance - but thanks for another obviously ignorant point.

100 GB? And where are the 900 other GB of legal MPC that are supposed to be here to prove that MPC "isn't dead"? Where could people find them?

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you aren't adding anything new here... everyone can see (musepack is open source now) that the psymodel isn't evolving. those same people can see that usability is evolving (especially for *NIX). how you can make those well-understood ideas an argument is interesting.

Building support for Commodore 64 and Atari ST is not exactly the kind of argument users are waiting for.
BTW, no need watch the source to see that MPC isn't progressing. VQF is still closed source and everyone can guess that the format is dead.


@CiTay: What I love isn't MPC but respect for other people. Seeing some "influent" person fooling other people with rotten arguments (superior quality at high bitrate without any proof, superior performance of transcoding based anything but listening test, claim abouts "big companies" imminent MPC' support, claims about growing audience of the format, fog with SV8, or SV7.5, etc...) is going against this respect. HA.org was originally intended to be as scientific or objective as possible. Whatever the format, as long as mythologic arguments will be posted on this board, I will continue to fight them to my best of my ability and my knowledge. As administrator with moderating right, it is also your duty.

What I did is to post some example of the way people involved in MPC developement are thinking (and acting). With such guys supposed to improve the format, it's easy to guess that MPC won't progress anymore and will only survive by trying to maintain an "audiophile superiority" aura obtained somewhere during 2000 and 2001 and objectively lost in the meantime. Such attitude could only fool new and uninformed users. There's no place for marketing on this board - even if it comes from an open-source software.

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QUOTE (guruboolez @ Aug 8 2006, 18:50) *
it's easy to guess that MPC won't progress anymore and will only survive by trying to maintain an "audiophile superiority" aura obtained somewhere during 2000 and 2001 and objectively lost in the meantime. Such attitude could only fool new and uninformed users. There's no place for marketing on this board - even if it comes from an open-source software.


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- Squeller   mpc, rest in peace   Aug 8 2006, 09:10
- - halb27   QUOTE (Squeller @ Aug 8 2006, 10:10) ...I...   Aug 8 2006, 10:24
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- - guruboolez   I guess that the original demand isn't to forb...   Aug 8 2006, 11:31
|- - halb27   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Aug 8 2006, 12:31) .....   Aug 8 2006, 13:46
- - stephanV   I'm not sure if one month of inactivity is eno...   Aug 8 2006, 11:35
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (stephanV @ Aug 8 2006, 12:35) I...   Aug 8 2006, 11:50
- - stephanV   I'm not against Flac and Wavpack getting their...   Aug 8 2006, 11:58
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (stephanV @ Aug 8 2006, 12:58) But ...   Aug 8 2006, 12:07
- - smok3   yes, well it seems like HA video section is a plac...   Aug 8 2006, 12:27
- - CiTay   The MPC forum will stay, it's a good resource ...   Aug 8 2006, 14:07
- - Squeller   I would even think about (maybe by the end of the ...   Aug 8 2006, 15:18
- - flipik   there's no need for any sentiment mpc is good...   Aug 8 2006, 15:53
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (flipik @ Aug 8 2006, 16:53) mpc (....   Aug 8 2006, 16:39
||- - flipik   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Aug 8 2006, 17:39) QU...   Aug 8 2006, 17:18
|- - skelly831   QUOTE (flipik @ Aug 8 2006, 07:53) there...   Aug 8 2006, 17:02
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- - DARcode   I subscribe to the WavPack and FLAC forums idea.   Aug 8 2006, 19:26
- - Muzzy^F8   You can do what you want with the forum. But sayi...   Aug 8 2006, 19:26
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (Muzzy^F8 @ Aug 8 2006, 20:26) I en...   Aug 8 2006, 19:30
|- - Muzzy^F8   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Aug 8 2006, 10:30) I ...   Aug 8 2006, 19:53
|- - beto   QUOTE (Muzzy^F8 @ Aug 8 2006, 15:53) Test...   Aug 8 2006, 20:06
|- - kwanbis   QUOTE (Muzzy^F8 @ Aug 8 2006, 18:53) MPC ...   Aug 8 2006, 20:09
- - Gabriel   QUOTE But sayin' that MPC is dead??? I encode ...   Aug 8 2006, 19:36
- - guruboolez   So if q6 have a "wider stereo effect" it...   Aug 8 2006, 20:18
- - richter   Coincidentally I ditched MPC from my library just ...   Aug 8 2006, 20:55
- - bubka   hows that new PC going?   Aug 8 2006, 20:56
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- - guruboolez   It's a bit off-topic, but if lucid anti-mpc ze...   Aug 8 2006, 21:45
|- - xmixahlx   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Aug 8 2006, 13:45) It...   Aug 8 2006, 22:18
- - NRAninja   QUOTE (bubka @ Aug 8 2006, 11:56) hows th...   Aug 8 2006, 21:59
- - CiTay   guruboolez, assuming MPC is dead, then you're ...   Aug 8 2006, 22:27
|- - flipik   QUOTE (CiTay @ Aug 8 2006, 23:27) guruboo...   Aug 8 2006, 23:21
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (flipik @ Aug 9 2006, 00:21) well j...   Aug 9 2006, 00:00
|- - Never_Again   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Aug 8 2006, 19:00) Th...   Aug 24 2006, 07:50
|- - audiomars   QUOTE (Never_Again @ Aug 24 2006, 12:20) ...   Aug 25 2006, 08:05
- - guruboolez   QUOTE ...obvious trolling From Shy, indeed... Or i...   Aug 8 2006, 22:50
|- - rjamorim   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Aug 8 2006, 18:50) it...   Aug 8 2006, 23:16
|- - CiTay   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Aug 8 2006, 23:50) Wh...   Aug 8 2006, 23:43
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|- - flipik   QUOTE (kwanbis @ Aug 9 2006, 00:30) you a...   Aug 8 2006, 23:36
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|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (kwanbis @ Aug 9 2006, 00:30) you a...   Aug 9 2006, 00:17
|- - kwanbis   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Aug 8 2006, 23:17) Do...   Aug 9 2006, 01:08
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (kwanbis @ Aug 9 2006, 02:08) QUOTE...   Aug 9 2006, 01:35
|- - kwanbis   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Aug 9 2006, 00:35) Wh...   Aug 9 2006, 01:47
|- - guruboolez   kwanbis> I don't see where's the proble...   Aug 9 2006, 02:05
|- - kwanbis   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Aug 9 2006, 01:05) th...   Aug 9 2006, 02:44
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|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (Lefungus @ Aug 9 2006, 01:26) It...   Aug 9 2006, 00:50
|- - Squeller   QUOTE (Lefungus @ Aug 8 2006, 15:26) Whil...   Aug 9 2006, 07:05
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