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Squeller
post Aug 8 2006, 09:10
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The last article in the mpc forums is from July 1st. This is more than dead.

Isn't it time to remove the direct links to mpc forums? mpc is like a dead limb in ha.

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post Aug 8 2006, 21:45
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It's a bit off-topic, but if lucid anti-mpc zealots want to have a little fun, here's another hilarious claim coming from the musepack.net circus board.

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Once again yet another unrelated "professional analysis".
This thread was not meant to discuss Musepack's popularity, competition with other codecs, people's preferences and so on.

1. bla-bla

2. Do you think only "those who have plenty of storage space" use Musepack? Are those people ones with hundreds of gigabytes? The --standard preset's avarage bitrate is around 176kbps, meaning higher quality at lower size than any competition.

source

The MPC "developer" explicitely ask to not discuss about "competition with other codecs", but four lines after his own disclaimer -- ding! -- a clear statement about... MPC superiority over competitors. Superiority at 176 (wow, that is precise) kbps, precisely where complete listening tests are missing... and this guy blames the few members of this board for their "professional analysis".

But this is just a snack. The big one is coming just after :

3. If you think Musepack is "losing" anything, all the statistics such as the tens of thousands of new visitors to our site each month, increasing usage and discussion of the format all over by users satisfied by the format's top quality, many major companies' interest in our files, Musepack being the top pick other than the popular MP3 according to a Hydrogenaudio survey, being supported by popular software on every possible widely used (and some not so widely used) platform and gaining further support by many unique and new applications, etc, shows otherwise.

(I recall that this message was posted less than one year ago).

• "increase discussion of the format": may I recall why this topic was started? laugh.gif Note that the last message posted on musepack.net is also more than one month old: current activity is even lower than on HA.org MPC boards!
• "many major companies interest in our files": too bad that he forgot to name these "big companies". We can't mail them to recall them to support MPC rolleyes.gif
• "...on top (...) according to a Hydrogenaudio survey": laugh.gif here is the lastest poll, MPC is in fourth position, with 11% of use, very far from Vorbis (and MP3 of course). And to finish, a last indicator of MPC growing interest
• "being supported by popular software on every possible widely used": no, MPC is supported in popular softwares, and not by them. The compatibility is most often coming from third-party components; native support of MPC is very rare.


Priceless, isn't it ? tongue.gif


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QUOTE (xmixahlx @ Aug 8 2006, 22:14) *
a few other ideas/projects are slowly being worked on (seeking/etc) but nothing to write home about...

seeking? That's indeed a great project! But didn't you consider seeking as useless wink.gif

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musepack will always have a user base due to the 1,000's of GB of musepack audio files out there...

Ah, I see... so MPC is basically attractive for illegal usage? That's indeed a great argument in favor of keeping MPC boards on HA.org.

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the format isn't abandoned.

No, but quality improvement (precisely for what people were looking about when they choose to leave MP3 for an exotic format) is more than dormant I would say.

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the thread-of-the-week-proclaiming-musepack-dead just isn't adding anything new to the situation.

Yes, it did: it contributed to clean HA.org board a bit in the last hours smile.gif Finally, MPC is still useful for something else than P2P biggrin.gif

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- Squeller   mpc, rest in peace   Aug 8 2006, 09:10
- - halb27   QUOTE (Squeller @ Aug 8 2006, 10:10) ...I...   Aug 8 2006, 10:24
|- - seanyseansean   QUOTE (halb27 @ Aug 8 2006, 10:24) QUOTE ...   Aug 8 2006, 10:57
- - guruboolez   I guess that the original demand isn't to forb...   Aug 8 2006, 11:31
|- - halb27   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Aug 8 2006, 12:31) .....   Aug 8 2006, 13:46
- - stephanV   I'm not sure if one month of inactivity is eno...   Aug 8 2006, 11:35
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (stephanV @ Aug 8 2006, 12:35) I...   Aug 8 2006, 11:50
- - stephanV   I'm not against Flac and Wavpack getting their...   Aug 8 2006, 11:58
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (stephanV @ Aug 8 2006, 12:58) But ...   Aug 8 2006, 12:07
- - smok3   yes, well it seems like HA video section is a plac...   Aug 8 2006, 12:27
- - CiTay   The MPC forum will stay, it's a good resource ...   Aug 8 2006, 14:07
- - Squeller   I would even think about (maybe by the end of the ...   Aug 8 2006, 15:18
- - flipik   there's no need for any sentiment mpc is good...   Aug 8 2006, 15:53
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (flipik @ Aug 8 2006, 16:53) mpc (....   Aug 8 2006, 16:39
||- - flipik   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Aug 8 2006, 17:39) QU...   Aug 8 2006, 17:18
|- - skelly831   QUOTE (flipik @ Aug 8 2006, 07:53) there...   Aug 8 2006, 17:02
- - vinnie97   LOL @ Guru. I received quite the beating in that ...   Aug 8 2006, 17:29
- - DARcode   I subscribe to the WavPack and FLAC forums idea.   Aug 8 2006, 19:26
- - Muzzy^F8   You can do what you want with the forum. But sayi...   Aug 8 2006, 19:26
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (Muzzy^F8 @ Aug 8 2006, 20:26) I en...   Aug 8 2006, 19:30
|- - Muzzy^F8   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Aug 8 2006, 10:30) I ...   Aug 8 2006, 19:53
|- - beto   QUOTE (Muzzy^F8 @ Aug 8 2006, 15:53) Test...   Aug 8 2006, 20:06
|- - kwanbis   QUOTE (Muzzy^F8 @ Aug 8 2006, 18:53) MPC ...   Aug 8 2006, 20:09
- - Gabriel   QUOTE But sayin' that MPC is dead??? I encode ...   Aug 8 2006, 19:36
- - guruboolez   So if q6 have a "wider stereo effect" it...   Aug 8 2006, 20:18
- - richter   Coincidentally I ditched MPC from my library just ...   Aug 8 2006, 20:55
- - bubka   hows that new PC going?   Aug 8 2006, 20:56
- - xmixahlx   what is going on with musepack? usability (decodi...   Aug 8 2006, 21:14
- - guruboolez   It's a bit off-topic, but if lucid anti-mpc ze...   Aug 8 2006, 21:45
|- - xmixahlx   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Aug 8 2006, 13:45) It...   Aug 8 2006, 22:18
- - NRAninja   QUOTE (bubka @ Aug 8 2006, 11:56) hows th...   Aug 8 2006, 21:59
- - CiTay   guruboolez, assuming MPC is dead, then you're ...   Aug 8 2006, 22:27
|- - flipik   QUOTE (CiTay @ Aug 8 2006, 23:27) guruboo...   Aug 8 2006, 23:21
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (flipik @ Aug 9 2006, 00:21) well j...   Aug 9 2006, 00:00
|- - Never_Again   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Aug 8 2006, 19:00) Th...   Aug 24 2006, 07:50
|- - audiomars   QUOTE (Never_Again @ Aug 24 2006, 12:20) ...   Aug 25 2006, 08:05
- - guruboolez   QUOTE ...obvious trolling From Shy, indeed... Or i...   Aug 8 2006, 22:50
|- - rjamorim   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Aug 8 2006, 18:50) it...   Aug 8 2006, 23:16
|- - CiTay   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Aug 8 2006, 23:50) Wh...   Aug 8 2006, 23:43
- - kwanbis   you are not obligated to read the MPC forum, you k...   Aug 8 2006, 23:30
|- - flipik   QUOTE (kwanbis @ Aug 9 2006, 00:30) you a...   Aug 8 2006, 23:36
||- - kwanbis   QUOTE (flipik @ Aug 8 2006, 22:36) and do...   Aug 8 2006, 23:49
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (kwanbis @ Aug 9 2006, 00:30) you a...   Aug 9 2006, 00:17
|- - kwanbis   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Aug 8 2006, 23:17) Do...   Aug 9 2006, 01:08
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (kwanbis @ Aug 9 2006, 02:08) QUOTE...   Aug 9 2006, 01:35
|- - kwanbis   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Aug 9 2006, 00:35) Wh...   Aug 9 2006, 01:47
|- - guruboolez   kwanbis> I don't see where's the proble...   Aug 9 2006, 02:05
|- - kwanbis   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Aug 9 2006, 01:05) th...   Aug 9 2006, 02:44
|- - guruboolez   The mess comes from the decision to create an uniq...   Aug 9 2006, 03:07
- - vinnie97   I think Guru's mission is a valid and noble on...   Aug 8 2006, 23:46
- - vinnie97   And perhaps the mods can put a deadline for MPC su...   Aug 8 2006, 23:51
|- - CiTay   QUOTE (vinnie97 @ Aug 9 2006, 00:51) And ...   Aug 8 2006, 23:58
- - Canar   foobar2000 plays and converts to and from .mpc ver...   Aug 9 2006, 00:08
- - Lefungus   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Aug 8 2006, 23:50) Bu...   Aug 9 2006, 00:26
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (Lefungus @ Aug 9 2006, 01:26) It...   Aug 9 2006, 00:50
|- - Squeller   QUOTE (Lefungus @ Aug 8 2006, 15:26) Whil...   Aug 9 2006, 07:05
- - skelly831   I think a good option would be, as guru says, to m...   Aug 9 2006, 02:05
- - kwanbis   why don't we create a poll? "What should...   Aug 9 2006, 03:18
|- - guruboolez   The poll isn't a bad idea, but we must be sure...   Aug 9 2006, 03:24
- - kjoonlee   Leave aloneMerge into "Other codecs"Lock...   Aug 9 2006, 03:28
|- - guruboolez   kjoonlee> I also thought about locking current ...   Aug 9 2006, 03:39
- - bubka   whats Frank doing with that computer that people b...   Aug 9 2006, 06:11
|- - jarsonic   QUOTE (bubka @ Aug 9 2006, 01:11) whats F...   Aug 9 2006, 06:15
- - sony666   It was an interesting format for geeks until AAC a...   Aug 9 2006, 06:37
- - Gabriel   I think that merging the mpc section into the ...   Aug 9 2006, 08:41
- - tgoose   I don't know how well this would work, but the...   Aug 9 2006, 11:12
|- - m00   I don't post much here, but I do find the foru...   Aug 9 2006, 11:18
- - Borisz   Personally I think that Musepack has next to no pr...   Aug 9 2006, 12:10
- - Alex B   The MPC forum history is precious and should be pr...   Aug 9 2006, 12:20
- - Klyith   I like MPC, still have 5 gigs of them (20% of my m...   Aug 21 2006, 23:33
|- - DARcode   QUOTE (Klyith @ Aug 22 2006, 00:33) I lik...   Aug 22 2006, 01:15
- - anark   ok ive tested mp3, wma, aac, ogg, mpc in ~240 bitr...   Aug 24 2006, 06:11
|- - pepoluan   QUOTE (anark @ Aug 24 2006, 12:11) ok ive...   Aug 24 2006, 06:16
|- - anark   QUOTE (pepoluan @ Aug 23 2006, 23:16) QUO...   Aug 24 2006, 09:50
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