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post Jul 2 2006, 16:55
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The future of freedb


Posted by kaiser on Saturday, July 01 @ 20:18:47 UTC (253 reads)


About freedb.org freedb is not able to operate without Joerg and Ari. There are other - hopefully free - projects that will take over freedbs heritage in a better way and stay free. freedbs future did not seem to be kept free regarding the lastest developments, so I tried to steer against this as I felt it more important to stay free instead of getting fancy web 2.0 features. But unfortunately Joerg and Ari (the main doers behind freedb) disagreed with me and decided that they want to go another direction. I will refuse to comment their postings in plublic and I will thank both Ari anf Jörg for their work and their support.

Now being sick of how things turned out lately and I am not being able to run the project with the people in freedb left, I will stop this project in the forseeable future.

If somebody is interested in a pretty well-known domain, send an offer to: lurchentsafter at gmail.com

Sorry for this.


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Posted by megari on Saturday, July 01 @ 19:06:55 UTC (106 reads)


About freedb.org After several years of successful work I am leaving freedb along with Jörg due to the current situation being unbearable. Without Jörg most of the fun of being part of freedb is gone and I do not believe I could work successfully with Mr. Kaiser whose definition of teamwork seems to vary from day to day and whom I have lost trust in.

I thank all the users, mirror server administrators, contributors, users and lurkers who have with their interest and support made this work worth it. Because of you I leave with a heavy heart and great sorrow and anxiety over the future of freedb.

Ari Sundholm

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Goodbye to freedb after 6 successful years


Posted by joerg on Saturday, July 01 @ 19:04:52 UTC (107 reads)


About freedb.org Today, after six long years, it is time for me to say goodbye to freedb. I started off creating database archives for download and finding ftp mirrors to host it in 2000 and ended up being responsible for basically every aspect of freedb. I feel like freedb is a part of my identity and it is ripping me apart, having to leave it now.

For almost two years now Ari and I have supported a developer from Australia, who was working on the next generation of the freedb server, which would have overcome most of our current technological problems and offered text searching. This was the biggest chance for freedb in years. Unfortunately there have been rising tensions in our team about the question, how long we should support a development project, which has not yet been made open source by the developer and which is not yet running on freedb servers. Last weekend the line was crossed by the founder of freedb, who owns the domain, when he took action against that developer without talking to the rest of the team first, while we were still trying to find a solution in everyone's interest.

With every chance gone for the developed software to become part of freedb and with the necessary basic level of trust between the owner of the domain freedb.org and me being destroyed, I see no more point in investing my spare time in this. I am not sure what me leaving will really mean for freedb, but considering my experiences from the past six years, I expect the future is not looking too bright. It is devastating for me to see that this issue could accomplish in a matter of weeks what Gracenote couldn't do for 7 long years since freedb was started.

I would like to thank the freedb community who made this service what it is today by helping out in various ways and submitting lots and lots of new database entries to us. We started with less than 200.000 database entries - today we have more than 2.000.000. YOU are the ones who made this worth doing and who make it so hard for me to leave.
I would also like to especially thank the mirror administrators for contributing their time, bandwidth and servers. Without them, freedb would not have been able to cope with the load that came with it's success. Special thanks go to Drew Streib, who has provided our master server for free for all this time, and Ari Sundholm, who has run freedb together with me for the past few years and tried to work on a solution with me till the last minute.

If you really need to contact me for some reason, use my personal e-mail address j.hevers at web.de.
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post Jul 3 2006, 21:04
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> am trying to find an organisation that takes the domain and ensures

freedb weekly top 20 clients
1. Nero 1792188
2. CDex 676765
3. Tag&Rename 524235
4. FreeRIP MP3 462734
5. Easy CD-DA Extractor 442345
6. Exact Audio Copy 328667
7. Audiograbber 324872
8. libkcddb 301165
9. dBpowerAMP Music Converter 244666
10. freedbdemo 231942
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Anyone else think Nero should take it over? wink.gif


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- Vietwoojagig   freedb-project is dead   Jul 2 2006, 16:55
- - Fandango   What now?   Jul 2 2006, 17:24
- - ConCave   Seems like alot of really good projects are being ...   Jul 2 2006, 17:24
- - foosion   Incidentally, I had just given Peter a new version...   Jul 2 2006, 17:42
- - hlloyge   Well, crap.   Jul 2 2006, 18:23
- - kornchild2002   So what's going to happen now? EAC has integr...   Jul 2 2006, 18:56
- - Sebastian Mares   Maybe the big chance for MusicBrainz?   Jul 2 2006, 19:06
|- - Vietwoojagig   QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Jul 2 2006, 20:0...   Jul 2 2006, 19:42
|- - skelly831   QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Jul 2 2006, 11:0...   Jul 2 2006, 20:07
||- - Gow   QUOTE (skelly831 @ Jul 2 2006, 15:07) QUO...   Jul 2 2006, 21:21
|- - PatchWorKs   QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Jul 2 2006, 20:0...   Jul 3 2006, 00:29
||- - Patsoe   QUOTE (PatchWorKs @ Jul 3 2006, 00:29) Oh...   Jul 3 2006, 01:41
||- - molnart   QUOTE (Patsoe @ Jul 3 2006, 02:41) Well, ...   Jul 3 2006, 02:25
||- - Patsoe   QUOTE (molnart @ Jul 3 2006, 02:25) foosi...   Jul 3 2006, 02:51
|- - Landus   QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Jul 2 2006, 14:0...   Oct 5 2006, 11:22
|- - inhouseuk   QUOTE (Landus @ Oct 5 2006, 11:22) QUOTE ...   Oct 5 2006, 13:10
||- - smz   QUOTE (inhouseuk @ Oct 5 2006, 14:10) ......   Oct 5 2006, 13:44
|||- - inhouseuk   QUOTE (smz @ Oct 5 2006, 13:44) EAC seems...   Oct 5 2006, 14:25
||- - Landus   QUOTE (inhouseuk @ Oct 5 2006, 08:10) QUO...   Oct 6 2006, 06:37
|- - Lashiec   QUOTE (Landus @ Oct 5 2006, 12:22) I doub...   Oct 6 2006, 12:29
|- - inhouseuk   QUOTE (Lashiec @ Oct 6 2006, 12:29) Huh? ...   Oct 6 2006, 13:49
- - lazka   Has anyone got some information about http://freed...   Jul 2 2006, 19:18
- - foosion   I think freedb2.org is the improved server that al...   Jul 2 2006, 19:43
- - molnart   I just don't get it how can a so widespread sy...   Jul 2 2006, 20:11
- - keytotime   This is really upsetting. This is gonna have a hug...   Jul 2 2006, 20:19
- - Teqnilogik   I am also surprised the the entire freedb project ...   Jul 2 2006, 20:21
- - linus   Very sad news...   Jul 2 2006, 20:23
- - lazka   QUOTE (molnart @ Jul 2 2006, 20:11) ...fr...   Jul 2 2006, 20:53
- - Teqnilogik   Couldn't somebody just get the latest freedb d...   Jul 2 2006, 21:06
|- - MedO   QUOTE (Teqnilogik @ Jul 2 2006, 22:06) Co...   Jul 2 2006, 21:33
- - Sebastian Mares   Well, at least I have the DB on my HDD, so even if...   Jul 2 2006, 23:04
- - lextune   RE: freedb-project is dead   Jul 2 2006, 23:31
- - Gow   After playing around with Musicbrainz...I think it...   Jul 3 2006, 01:53
- - ryran   Wow.   Jul 3 2006, 02:07
- - skelly831   I've been playing around with the MusicBrainz ...   Jul 3 2006, 03:25
- - brendo   QUOTE (molnart @ Jul 3 2006, 11:25) QUOTE...   Jul 3 2006, 04:21
- - audioaficionado   Bummer I'm downloading (maybe the last cha...   Jul 3 2006, 05:52
- - SebastianG   The CDDB protocol's 32 bit CD-TOC checksum was...   Jul 3 2006, 08:12
|- - Synaptic Line Noise   QUOTE (SebastianG @ Jul 3 2006, 02:12) Th...   Sep 3 2006, 15:57
- - freak393   REAL SHAME - that's a big one leaving the scen...   Jul 3 2006, 08:40
- - jaybeee   That's really sad news. Freedb is brilliant. ...   Jul 3 2006, 08:53
- - foosion   QUOTE (Patsoe @ Jul 3 2006, 03:51) Maybe ...   Jul 3 2006, 10:02
|- - jaybeee   QUOTE (foosion @ Jul 3 2006, 10:02) QUOTE...   Jul 3 2006, 10:22
|- - foosion   QUOTE (jaybeee @ Jul 3 2006, 11:22) How l...   Jul 3 2006, 10:53
- - MC Escher   QUOTE (Patsoe @ Jul 2 2006, 17:51) The al...   Jul 3 2006, 10:29
- - Supacon   I too have many thousands of high quality, well ta...   Jul 3 2006, 11:30
- - Eli   Now clearly is a time for a new database to step u...   Jul 3 2006, 12:54
- - andars   Why doesn't this community start up some sort ...   Jul 3 2006, 17:36
- - Supacon   QUOTE (andars @ Jul 3 2006, 10:36) Why do...   Jul 3 2006, 18:40
- - Jud   QUOTE update: currently, there are talks with org...   Jul 3 2006, 19:12
- - /mnt   Dam this is sad news, I always prefered freedb ove...   Jul 3 2006, 19:24
- - spoon   > am trying to find an organisation that takes ...   Jul 3 2006, 21:04
|- - greynol   QUOTE (spoon @ Jul 3 2006, 13:04) Anyone ...   Jul 3 2006, 21:19
|- - /mnt   QUOTE (spoon @ Jul 3 2006, 21:04) Anyone ...   Jul 3 2006, 21:28
- - LaserSokrates   Man, I never would have thought that so many peopl...   Jul 3 2006, 21:21
|- - greynol   QUOTE (LaserSokrates @ Jul 3 2006, 13:21)...   Jul 3 2006, 21:25
- - molnart   I don't think Nero would be the best choice, b...   Jul 3 2006, 22:26
- - DARcode   Any comments by André regarding possible alternati...   Jul 3 2006, 23:33
- - Andavari   It stinks that it died because all and I mean all ...   Jul 4 2006, 00:52
- - moonshot   QUOTE (Vietwoojagig @ Jul 2 2006, 07:55) ...   Jul 4 2006, 00:56
- - odious_m   If you want to use Gracenote CDDB with EAC.... F...   Jul 4 2006, 05:55
|- - Andavari   QUOTE (odious_m @ Jul 3 2006, 23:55) Then...   Jul 4 2006, 08:09
||- - Synthetic Soul   QUOTE (Andavari @ Jul 4 2006, 08:09) QUOT...   Jul 4 2006, 08:44
|- - jaybeee   QUOTE (odious_m @ Jul 4 2006, 05:55) If y...   Jul 4 2006, 08:32
- - Digga   yet another possibility: http://www.cdarchiv.de/   Jul 7 2006, 10:37
|- - foosion   QUOTE (Digga @ Jul 7 2006, 11:37) yet ano...   Jul 7 2006, 13:13
- - Digga   QUOTE (foosion @ Jul 7 2006, 14:13) They ...   Jul 7 2006, 13:31
- - foosion   To get CD information from cdarchiv.de, you have t...   Jul 9 2006, 19:50
- - hellokeith   Who is running freedb? My EAC didn't connect ...   Sep 3 2006, 20:32
|- - Andavari   QUOTE (hellokeith @ Sep 3 2006, 14:32) My...   Sep 4 2006, 07:02
- - dano   freedb has been aquired by MAGIX AG (a german soft...   Oct 4 2006, 22:29
- - ...Just Elliott   excellent! I love the new design, too.   Oct 4 2006, 22:47
|- - smz   QUOTE (...Just Elliott @ Oct 4 2006, 23:4...   Oct 4 2006, 22:54
- - greynol   smz: That summarizes my feelings perfectly.   Oct 4 2006, 22:57
- - Synthetic Soul   The blank space at the top of the page looked odd ...   Oct 5 2006, 07:40
- - Lashiec   As long as they don't do to FreeDB what Gracen...   Oct 5 2006, 09:43
|- - MedO   Magix offer products such as "Music Manager...   Oct 5 2006, 10:19
- - MC Escher   Not? I use it only for tagging, and the new PUID s...   Oct 5 2006, 11:46
- - jarsonic   Did anyone end up making a MusicBrainz tagging plu...   Oct 6 2006, 14:42
- - spoon   Reports of freedb's demise are greatly exagger...   Oct 6 2006, 17:19
- - Ardax   QUOTE (spoon @ Oct 6 2006, 12:19) Reports...   Oct 6 2006, 17:29


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