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Review: Best burners for reading/burning audio CDs, Bonus: CD-R media test
CiTay
post Jun 11 2006, 02:03
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In their previous issue, the noted german c't magazine had an interesting article about different drives and their usefulness for ripping and burning of audio CDs. So good in fact that i want to post some of the results here. I encourage any german reader to buy c't magazine, it's by far the best around. I don't want to spoil anything with these excerpts. Please order the mag and read the full article. Germans can also order the article for 0.80 Euro here.

So anyway, they had several DVD and CD burners for the roundup. The read tests were done with EAC (in secure mode). For the write tests, they sent the media to Audiodev in Sweden for detailed CATS analysis.

Keep in mind that these results are for (audio) CDs only, not for DVD ripping/burning.

Scores, worst to best: -- / - / o / + / ++

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BenQ DW-1640
- Burn quality: +
- Read speed: +
- Read quality: +
- Reading copy-protected CDs: o (no CDS100/CDS200B/DocData2/Key2AudioB)

LG GSA-H20L
- Burn quality: o
- Read speed: -
- Read quality: o
- Reading copy-protected CDs: + (no CDS100)

LiteOn SHM-165P6S
- Burn quality: -
- Read speed: --
- Read quality: ++
- Reading copy-protected CDs: + (no CDS100)

NEC ND-4551A
- Burn quality: +
- Read speed: ++
- Read quality: --
- Reading copy-protected CDs: o (no CDS100/DocData1/DocData2)

Pioneer DVR-111
- Burn quality: ++
- Read speed: o
- Read quality: o
- Reading copy-protected CDs: o (no CDS100/DocData2/Key2AudioB)

Plextor PX-760A
- Burn quality: +
- Read speed: + (note: with Plextools, was slow with EAC)
- Read quality: +
- Reading copy-protected CDs: ++

Samsung SH-W163C
- Burn quality: o
- Read speed: +
- Read quality: o
- Reading copy-protected CDs: o (no CDS100/DocData1/DocData2/Key2AudioB)

ASUS CRW-5232A3
- Burn quality: +
- Read speed: o
- Read quality: -
- Reading copy-protected CDs: o (no CDS100/DocData2/Key2AudioA/Key2AudioB)

Plextor Plexwriter Premium 2
- Burn quality: +
- Read speed: +
- Read quality: -
- Reading copy-protected CDs: ++

Plextor PX-230A
- Burn quality: +
- Read speed: +
- Read quality: ++
- Reading copy-protected CDs: ++




They also tested different CD-R media as to which can offer the best burn quality. They were burned with the NEC ND-4551A and the Plextor PX-760A, sent to Audiodev, and the results were averaged. They were also subjected to 100 hours of 80C and 85% humidity to simulate aging, for 20 discs of each brand ("durability").

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Plextor CD-R 48x (Taiyo Yuden / cyanine dye / silver)
Quality: +
Durability: ++
Compatibility: ++

Primeon Gold CD-R 48x (C.S.I. MAM-E / phthalocyanine dye / gold)
Quality: --
Durability: o
Compatibility: +

Sony CD-R 48x (Sony / phthalocyanine dye / silver)
Quality: +
Durability: +
Compatibility: +

TDK CD-R 52x (CMC / phthalocyanine dye / silver)
Quality: -
Durability: +
Compatibility: -

Verbatim CD-R DLP 52x (Mitsubishi / azo dye / silver)
Quality: +
Durability: --
Compatibility: ++

Verbatim CD-R Audio 16x (Mitsubishi / azo dye / silver)
Quality: --
Durability: --
Compatibility: --



And to top it off, excerpts of a test on how burn speed affects burn quality:

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Plextor CD-R 48x (TY) burned with Plexwriter Premium 2:

4x speed - burn quality: +
4x speed AMQR - burn quality: ++
16x speed - burn quality: +
48x speed - burn quality: o



Some more results are here (older drives).
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post Jun 19 2006, 17:12
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> unreliable data being sent to AccurateRip?

If the CD is popular, ie the confidences are > 2 then it is likely your rip had the error.


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post Jun 20 2006, 04:05
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QUOTE (spoon @ Jun 19 2006, 09:12) *
If the CD is popular, ie the confidences are > 2 then it is likely your rip had the error.

What would you say about track 9 of this rip?

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Track    Ripping Status        [Disc ID: 0010d81d-7d0aa90a]

1    Accurately Ripped    (confidence 2)     [9967ee84]
2    Accurately Ripped    (confidence 2)     [f026293c]
3    Accurately Ripped    (confidence 2)     [66c2c300]
4    Accurately Ripped    (confidence 2)     [34c71828]
5    Accurately Ripped    (confidence 2)     [dc466aa9]
6    Accurately Ripped    (confidence 2)     [20d52b53]
7    Accurately Ripped    (confidence 2)     [22bd51be]
8    Accurately Ripped    (confidence 2)     [782cc51e]
9    ** Rip not accurate **   (confidence 2)     [25e73e29] [770c64ab]
10    Accurately Ripped    (confidence 2)     [a55033a8]

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Track(s) Accurately Ripped: 9
**** Track(s) Not Ripped Accurately: 1 ****
Track(s) Not in Database: 0
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Used drive  : PLEXTOR DVDR   PX-716A   Adapter: 3  ID: 1
Read mode   : Secure with NO C2, accurate stream, disable cache

Track  9
     Filename C:\Unknown Artist\Unknown Title\09 - Track09.wav

     Peak level 87.7 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 0B56F8A3
     Copy OK

PlexTools Pro rips this track exactly the same way and a C1/C2 test indicates that the track has no CU errors at any selectable speed.


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- CiTay   Review: Best burners for reading/burning audio CDs   Jun 11 2006, 02:03
- - Zoom   These results make me feel less crazy for ripping ...   Jun 11 2006, 03:15
|- - Andavari   Very interesting, and I apprecitate the informatio...   Jun 11 2006, 03:58
|- - CiTay   QUOTE (Andavari @ Jun 11 2006, 04:58) Ver...   Jun 11 2006, 11:44
- - evereux   Another vote of thanks for that information Citay....   Jun 11 2006, 15:04
- - vinnie97   As far as websites are concerned, http://www.cdrla...   Jun 11 2006, 15:51
- - rudefyet   Yep...I can attest for the "-" quality a...   Jun 11 2006, 16:12
- - Demetris   Thank you, CiTay. Really appreciated.   Jun 11 2006, 21:46
- - Hollunder   looks interesting, how many drives have been teste...   Jun 11 2006, 22:13
|- - CiTay   QUOTE (Hollunder @ Jun 11 2006, 23:13) lo...   Jun 11 2006, 22:49
- - Hollunder   I thought the ones you have postet are just a few ...   Jun 12 2006, 00:07
|- - CiTay   QUOTE (Hollunder @ Jun 12 2006, 01:07) I ...   Jun 12 2006, 01:12
- - spoon   Plextor Plexwriter Premium 2 - Read quality: - Th...   Jun 12 2006, 08:52
|- - CiTay   QUOTE (spoon @ Jun 12 2006, 09:52) Does i...   Jun 12 2006, 11:45
- - Firon   How nice that the Pioneer drive has excellent burn...   Jun 12 2006, 12:42
- - spoon   Thanks for the info, it is a shame I dont speak ge...   Jun 12 2006, 13:04
|- - Pio2001   To complete what Citay said, in the last versions ...   Jun 12 2006, 19:22
|- - JeanLuc   QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Jun 12 2006, 18:22) To c...   Jun 18 2006, 21:37
- - Andavari   That's pretty involved from them to CP a disc ...   Jun 12 2006, 19:46
- - CSMR   QUOTE (spoon @ Jun 12 2006, 04:04) (altho...   Jun 12 2006, 19:58
- - LaserSokrates   If you can point me to the issue of c't, I...   Jun 18 2006, 12:29
|- - CiTay   QUOTE (LaserSokrates @ Jun 18 2006, 13:29...   Jun 18 2006, 13:25
- - LaserSokrates   IMHO, there wasn't too much new in the article...   Jun 18 2006, 13:50
|- - CiTay   QUOTE (LaserSokrates @ Jun 18 2006, 14:50...   Jun 18 2006, 13:53
|- - Triza   Guys! I did my own independent test and I reac...   Jun 18 2006, 20:57
- - soulsearchingsun   I read this article, too. A slight drawback in sig...   Jun 19 2006, 09:41
- - ShowsOn   But is AccurateRip a cure all? I usually do a Tes...   Jun 19 2006, 13:42
- - spoon   > unreliable data being sent to AccurateRip? I...   Jun 19 2006, 17:12
|- - ShowsOn   QUOTE (spoon @ Jun 20 2006, 01:12) > u...   Jun 19 2006, 18:31
|- - greynol   QUOTE (spoon @ Jun 19 2006, 09:12) If the...   Jun 20 2006, 04:05
- - spoon   With a confidence of 2 it is not really high enoug...   Jul 12 2006, 16:35
- - Sebastian Mares   Is the PX-230A able to overread into the lead-in o...   Jul 12 2006, 21:23
- - funkyblue   I was about to ask the same question...My Premium ...   Jul 12 2006, 22:17
- - greynol   This seems like a bizarre amount of concern over 1...   Jul 12 2006, 22:24
|- - JeanLuc   QUOTE (greynol @ Jul 12 2006, 21:24) Why ...   Jul 19 2006, 16:57
|- - greynol   QUOTE (JeanLuc @ Jul 19 2006, 08:57) If I...   Jul 19 2006, 17:24
- - funkyblue   should be silence is the question...Anyway, instea...   Jul 12 2006, 22:47
- - greynol   QUOTE should be silence is the question...At the e...   Jul 12 2006, 22:59
- - funkyblue   Then why bother coming here? or commenting? Many p...   Jul 12 2006, 23:07
|- - greynol   QUOTE (funkyblue @ Jul 12 2006, 15:07) Th...   Jul 12 2006, 23:19
- - funkyblue   Why bother commenting? I stated I am also looking ...   Jul 12 2006, 23:26
- - Sebastian Mares   I am listening to music on my PC anyways, so a dri...   Jul 13 2006, 06:00
- - Martin H   I have decided that i won't buy a Plextor driv...   Jul 14 2006, 01:04
|- - Sebastian Mares   QUOTE (Martin H @ Jul 14 2006, 02:04) Als...   Jul 14 2006, 05:58
|- - Martin H   QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Jul 14 2006, 06...   Jul 14 2006, 23:44
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|- - greynol   QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Jul 19 2006, 09...   Jul 19 2006, 17:34
|- - JeanLuc   QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Jul 19 2006, 16...   Jul 19 2006, 21:21
|- - greynol   QUOTE (JeanLuc @ Jul 19 2006, 13:21) The ...   Jul 19 2006, 21:46
|- - JeanLuc   QUOTE (greynol @ Jul 19 2006, 20:46) What...   Jul 19 2006, 21:53
- - Sebastian Mares   QUOTE (Martin H @ Jul 15 2006, 04:53) I s...   Jul 19 2006, 17:35
|- - Anansi   QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Jul 19 2006, 10...   Jul 19 2006, 20:51
||- - JeanLuc   QUOTE (Anansi @ Jul 19 2006, 19:51) (btw ...   Jul 19 2006, 20:58
||- - Anansi   QUOTE (JeanLuc @ Jul 19 2006, 13:58) QUOT...   Jul 20 2006, 12:11
||- - JeanLuc   QUOTE (Anansi @ Jul 20 2006, 11:11) QUOTE...   Jul 20 2006, 16:54
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- - PatchWorKs   Best CD burners are TEAC (every model) !   Jul 19 2006, 22:04
|- - greynol   QUOTE (PatchWorKs @ Jul 19 2006, 14:04) B...   Jul 19 2006, 22:25
- - Sebastian Mares   Ah, now I got it. I thought that if the image you ...   Jul 19 2006, 22:50
- - greynol   You actually have to shift the data to overcome th...   Jul 19 2006, 23:00
- - funkyblue   I should have mine tomorrow...Why does it matter i...   Jul 20 2006, 12:21
|- - Anansi   QUOTE (funkyblue @ Jul 20 2006, 05:21) I ...   Jul 20 2006, 14:19
|- - CiTay   QUOTE (Anansi @ Jul 20 2006, 15:19) if it...   Jul 20 2006, 14:31
- - Sebastian Mares   Nobody is saying that it's bad, it's just ...   Jul 20 2006, 15:08
|- - Anansi   QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Jul 20 2006, 08...   Jul 20 2006, 15:27
- - spoon   I have run 1000's of cds the last few weeks th...   Jul 20 2006, 16:45
|- - Anansi   QUOTE (spoon @ Jul 20 2006, 09:45) I have...   Jul 20 2006, 18:20
|- - greynol   QUOTE (Anansi @ Jul 20 2006, 10:20) does ...   Jul 20 2006, 18:35
|- - CiTay   QUOTE (greynol @ Jul 20 2006, 19:35) QUOT...   Jul 20 2006, 19:13
|- - greynol   The question is whether any of these modes will al...   Jul 20 2006, 19:34
|- - Anansi   QUOTE (CiTay @ Jul 20 2006, 12:13) QUOTE ...   Jul 20 2006, 20:54
- - spoon   >EAX says yes to Cache I am 99% sure this dri...   Jul 20 2006, 21:15
|- - greynol   QUOTE (spoon @ Jul 20 2006, 13:15) >EA...   Jul 20 2006, 21:35
|- - Anansi   QUOTE (spoon @ Jul 20 2006, 14:15) Have n...   Jul 20 2006, 21:48
- - funkyblue   Hey Guys, Just received my PX-230A direct from the...   Jul 21 2006, 01:42
|- - greynol   QUOTE (funkyblue @ Jul 20 2006, 17:42) EA...   Jul 21 2006, 02:09
|- - audioaficionado   QUOTE (funkyblue @ Jul 20 2006, 17:42) He...   Jul 23 2006, 00:29
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|- - greynol   QUOTE (funkyblue @ Jul 20 2006, 18:49) I ...   Jul 21 2006, 03:13
|- - Anansi   QUOTE (greynol @ Jul 20 2006, 20:13) QUOT...   Jul 21 2006, 07:31
|- - greynol   QUOTE (Anansi @ Jul 20 2006, 23:31) off-t...   Jul 21 2006, 08:25
- - Anansi   ok so what does reading into the leadout provide?   Jul 21 2006, 17:17
|- - greynol   QUOTE (Anansi @ Jul 21 2006, 09:17) ok so...   Jul 21 2006, 17:52
|- - Anansi   QUOTE (greynol @ Jul 21 2006, 10:52) QUOT...   Jul 21 2006, 22:52
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|- - greynol   QUOTE (Anansi @ Jul 21 2006, 20:42) but i...   Jul 22 2006, 19:52
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