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Tagging with Oggdrop, someone can give me hint ?
Soren
post Nov 24 2002, 11:02
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I found oggdrop pretty usefull but i can't figure how to tag my files correctly. I'm using a filename like :

01 - artist - title.ogg

How can i fill the tagging option fields to get the right tag at the right place ?

Soren

Edit : also, can we expect the addition of vorbisgain into oggdrop ?

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post Nov 24 2002, 13:21
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Can you please indicate what the directory structure is regarding where the file is located? Then I can tell you how to configure the tagging options.

To include VorbisGain to add TitleGain tags would not be too much if a problem, but to provide AlbumGain tags would be kind of messy unless I was to make it an entirely separate module. AlbumGain would have to be based upon all the currently 'dropped' files. I have thought about this a couple of times, but I decided it was fraught with too many opportunities to get it wrong to make it a worthwhile addition. However, if there is a consensus that wants it included, I'll look at it again.


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post Nov 24 2002, 13:24
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I think Vorbisgain would be kind of cool. Perhaps for Albumgain you could make like a queued mode, where you could drop batches of files at a time, and designate all of those to be a particular albums.. and then you could have a queue of multiple albums like this to process.
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post Nov 24 2002, 13:54
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QUOTE (Dibrom @ Nov 24 2002 - 12:24 PM)
I think Vorbisgain would be kind of cool.  Perhaps for Albumgain you could make like a queued mode, where you could drop batches of files at a time, and designate all of those to be a particular albums.. and then you could have a queue of multiple albums like this to process.

Well, if you like the idea Master ( wink.gif ), I'll have another look at it. Don't expect anything too quickly though, I need to give this some careful thought to make sure I get it right!!


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post Nov 24 2002, 14:27
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Directory structure is Artist - Albumname\01 - Artist - trackname

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post Nov 24 2002, 14:30
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Hi John smile.gif

Tagging

For tagging, I recommend the implementation found in Monkey's Audio. A good guide can be found by launching it, hitting F9 and clicking "Help". If you don't have it, here's the relevant bit:

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Use %N where N is the field in the file name
Use %%N where N is the field in the parent directory
Use %%%N where N is the field in the grandparent directory
Use %%%%N where N is the field in the great-grandparent directory


and so on...

Thus, if my layout is:

D:\songs\Steve Stevens - Flamenco.a.go.go\04 - Letter To A Memory.wav

I would use:

artist: %%1
album: %%2
tracknumber: %1
trackname: %2


This is a very flexible system and it adapts well for all the quirky naming schemes I've seen.


Replaygain

This can be done in the manner Dibrom suggested. I would also appreciate the option of OggDrop calculating each folder as an album, so I can drop ten folders at one go but each folder's tracks gets treated as individual albums.

May I also take this opportunity to thank you for giving us Ogg Vorbis fans a kick-arse proggie with rapid updates. Keep up the great work! smile.gif

Cheers,
CD

Edit: fixed typo in example.

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post Nov 24 2002, 15:20
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QUOTE (Soren @ Nov 24 2002 - 01:27 PM)
Directory structure is Artist - Albumname\01 - Artist - trackname

Thanks for the hand, Soren smile.gif

Hmmm, the scheme I used isn't really smart enough to do exactly what you want. My scheme is based upon:

Artist\Album Title\Track Number Track Title.

However, this was done as an initial effort and probably needs revisiting. I think that I'll take a look at Compact Dick's suggestion for introducing greater flexibility. For the moment, all you could do would be to duplicate the Artist - Albumname in both Artist and Album tags and split out the Tracknumber from the Tracknumber/Artist/Trackname. Not great, but all it will do at the moment.

I'll also be looking at the options for adding VorbisGain.

@Compact Dick

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll be looking into them. wink.gif


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post Nov 24 2002, 19:26
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John,

while we're at it wink.gif: Could you perhaps un-default the auto tagging in OggDropXPd? Most users don't have their files named according to the scheme it assumes, and if it is enabled by default, you get files tagged like "Album: My Music" and "Title: Artist - Title" etc. because many user fail to realize what's going on.


@Soren:

If you use WinVorbis, you can encode, tag and replaygain all in one go. It doesn't support treating each folder as an album, though.

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post Nov 24 2002, 19:43
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QUOTE (Volcano @ Nov 24 2002 - 06:26 PM)
while we're at it wink.gif: Could you perhaps un-default the auto tagging in OggDropXPd? Most users don't have their files named according to the scheme it assumes, and if it is enabled by default, you get files tagged like "Album: My Music" and "Title: Artist - Title" etc. because many user fail to realize what's going on.

Done. wink.gif The release of 1.6 will NOT tag, by default.


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post Nov 24 2002, 21:06
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[/QUOTE]@Soren:

If you use WinVorbis, you can encode, tag and replaygain all in one go. It doesn't support treating each folder as an album, though.
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I usually use winvorvbis, a piece of software, but Oggdrop offer more mobility option, no need to install on the host computer, very usefull while i am at university wink.gif or on a friend's computer using a universal smart drive.

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post Nov 26 2002, 22:50
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John: Thanks biggrin.gif

Soren: There's no need to install WinVorbis. You can just ZIP WinVorbis.exe plus Oggenc, Oggdec, Vorbiscomment and VorbisGain - it will run fine. Anyway, now that Oggdrop supports more flexible tagging, you're done smile.gif
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