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Cryptic claims made elsewhere (so-called, audible differences between FLAC & WAVE)
vinnie97
post May 23 2006, 03:36
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I'd just like to see some commentary on the claim in this thread about someone who is claiming they can hear the difference between WAV and FLAC: http://iaudiophile.net/forums/showthread.php?p=84975 (skip to page 3).

This individual seems to mistakenly think that FLAC utilizes some algorithm that interferes with the high frequencies (making them "better" to his ears). blink.gif I obviously think he's imagining these differences or being deceived by a decoder as referenced in the thread (he ignores that suggestion, though).

Perhaps the FLAC developer can set him straight because he seems to think he's rather knowledgeable on the topic. rolleyes.gif

EDIT: Doh, I exceeded the limit of chars for a topic (no warning ;( )

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molnart
post May 23 2006, 16:18
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I can fairly imagine that a portable music player is decoding flac in a different way, thus it sounds differently than the wav
Similarly some eq enhancement could be done in computer decoding too causing the flac sound differently. (Or it is a buggy FLAC decoder) This is just an unlikely theory but can be POSSIBLE.

So if a FLAC sounds differently than the .wav it is certainly due to a decoding issue. Actually a double blind test here has some sense, but you need to compare the ORIGINAL FLAC file with the DECODED FLAC.

PSYCHOLOGICALLY FLAC files have much higher quality than the WAVE files, because i feel much better when i'm using an 'advanced' technology like flac instead of some stupid old-school wavs biggrin.gif (in fact they are PSYCHOLOGICALLY 'better to my ears')
EDIT: i should have said: 'better to my mind' smile.gif

(it is similar to the last.fm and foosic like services: knowing that other people can see what i'm listening to, i'm starting to like different kind of music than before wink.gif )

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- vinnie97   Cryptic claims made elsewhere (so-called   May 23 2006, 03:36
- - Mike Giacomelli   Hes just an idiot. And those forums look pretty h...   May 23 2006, 03:42
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|- - Never_Again   QUOTE (Mono @ May 23 2006, 00:33) It neve...   May 23 2006, 13:49
- - vinnie97   Of course, you're all right...that's why I...   May 23 2006, 06:14
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- - pepoluan   You know, not to defend the retard there, if you a...   May 23 2006, 09:24
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|- - Demetris   QUOTE (sTisTi @ May 23 2006, 14:29) ...an...   May 23 2006, 14:51
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|- - molnart   QUOTE (Jebus @ May 24 2006, 17:19) I...   May 24 2006, 20:32
- - vinnie97   Thanks for the title fix, Synthetic Soul. Otto, I...   May 23 2006, 12:07
- - shadowking   There are only bit comparisons in lossless. There ...   May 23 2006, 12:18
- - pepoluan   Ah, so much for my hypothesis Psst... don't ...   May 23 2006, 12:40
- - molnart   I can fairly imagine that a portable music player ...   May 23 2006, 16:18
|- - TrNSZ   QUOTE (molnart @ May 23 2006, 11:18) So i...   May 23 2006, 16:54
- - molnart   You are right. I meant something like this: take a...   May 23 2006, 17:31
|- - audiomars   QUOTE (molnart @ May 23 2006, 22:01) ----...   May 24 2006, 06:13
- - Firon   FLAC doesn't really use any significant amount...   May 24 2006, 21:41
|- - Jebus   QUOTE (Firon @ May 24 2006, 12:41) FLAC d...   May 24 2006, 23:38
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- - porky_pig_jr   I had a similar dialog. The guy claimed he could h...   May 24 2006, 23:41
- - vinnie97   Yea, Porky...sounds like an equally frustratingly ...   May 25 2006, 06:44
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