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Will Vorbis 2.0 be backwards compatible?
tsioc
post Apr 19 2006, 11:36
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post Jun 11 2006, 04:52
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QUOTE (vlada @ Jun 8 2006, 09:00) *
I know exactly what is OGM and I also know, that the only official extension for Ogg Theora is OGG. But I don't think it is a good idea. You have .FLAC and .SPX extension for FLAC and Speex. So I think there should also be another extension for Theora, OGM was just a sugestion because most people know, that OGM is a video file. Having the same extension for video and audio files is really inpractical a nobody else uses it.

MP4 does. You regularly see both audio only and video mp4s online, audio only almost always AAC but now and then mp3. While it caused some confusion a year or two ago, the dust seems to have settled down now.

It can be done with effort on splitter makers' parts; perhaps Illiminable hasn't done it because theora simply isn't efficient or fast enough for real use compared to other codecs (unlike vorbis) and is hardly found anywhere. Although they did make the DS decoder... *shrug* Maybe you should email them about it.
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post Jun 13 2006, 08:19
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QUOTE (foxyshadis @ Jun 11 2006, 05:52) *
QUOTE (vlada @ Jun 8 2006, 09:00) *
I know exactly what is OGM and I also know, that the only official extension for Ogg Theora is OGG. But I don't think it is a good idea. You have .FLAC and .SPX extension for FLAC and Speex. So I think there should also be another extension for Theora, OGM was just a sugestion because most people know, that OGM is a video file. Having the same extension for video and audio files is really inpractical a nobody else uses it.

MP4 does. You regularly see both audio only and video mp4s online, audio only almost always AAC but now and then mp3. While it caused some confusion a year or two ago, the dust seems to have settled down now.


I don't think so. Most people have no idea, what MP4 is. People who have already seen it usually think it is a video compression. I see a lot of computer users looking for "MP4 codec".

And it is similar with OGG, most people think it is a sound compression. They're confusing OGG and Vorbis.

I really believe, that 99% of computer users have no idea what a multimedia container is. Most people never heard about OGG Vorbis a most people don't know that Windows is not the only one operating system in the Universe. I think this is the sad truth....
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- tsioc   Will Vorbis 2.0 be backwards compatible?   Apr 19 2006, 11:36
- - Garf   As far as I know noone is working on it, so the qu...   Apr 19 2006, 12:42
|- - tsioc   QUOTE (Garf @ Apr 19 2006, 04:42 AM) As f...   Apr 19 2006, 13:02
|- - kjoonlee   QUOTE (tsioc @ Apr 19 2006, 09:02 PM) QUO...   Apr 22 2006, 06:56
- - Liisachan   Probably this info is too old but in Ogg Traffic f...   Apr 21 2006, 09:18
- - HotshotGG   QUOTE There was a possible hack for OggWrit, xiph...   Apr 22 2006, 06:11
- - vlada   It seems to me, like if all Xiph.org projects were...   Apr 22 2006, 08:09
|- - Liisachan   QUOTE (vlada @ Apr 22 2006, 07:09 AM) It ...   Apr 22 2006, 08:59
|- - jmvalin   QUOTE (vlada @ Apr 22 2006, 05:09 PM) It ...   Apr 22 2006, 14:16
|- - vlada   QUOTE (jmvalin @ Apr 22 2006, 03:16 PM) Q...   Apr 22 2006, 20:12
- - kjoonlee   If you want to know what's going on at Xiph.or...   Apr 22 2006, 10:22
- - sh1leshk4   Someone seems really ticked off here. Anyway, li...   Apr 22 2006, 18:31
- - Supacon   QUOTE (vlada @ Apr 22 2006, 01:09 AM) It ...   Apr 22 2006, 19:46
- - jorsol   QUOTE It seems to me, like if all Xiph.org project...   Apr 22 2006, 19:51
- - vlada   jorsol> I posted my answer before I saw your po...   Apr 22 2006, 20:34
|- - Liisachan   QUOTE (vlada @ Apr 22 2006, 07:34 PM) jor...   Apr 23 2006, 02:32
- - jorsol   Yes, Theora need a lot of work... and thats why it...   Apr 22 2006, 21:41
- - Liisachan   This was posed a few days ago. http://wiki.xiph.o...   Apr 23 2006, 02:45
- - kjoonlee   The Schrödinger Project Ogg Dirac work is being d...   Apr 23 2006, 04:25
- - vlada   Liisachan> First of all sorry to Aoyumi for mis...   Apr 26 2006, 11:10
|- - Liisachan   QUOTE (vlada @ Apr 26 2006, 10:10 AM) Lii...   Apr 27 2006, 00:57
- - Supacon   Isn't that more up to the creators of the soft...   Apr 26 2006, 23:37
- - jorsol   yes... Microsoft will never add native support for...   Apr 27 2006, 00:29
- - bubka   last I heard of vorbis II was back before I was ev...   Apr 27 2006, 01:04
- - smok3   some ppl are actually using theora and it 'str...   Apr 27 2006, 01:38
|- - vlada   QUOTE (smok3 @ Apr 27 2006, 02:38 AM) som...   Apr 27 2006, 09:57
- - towolf   You can also track Xiph commits in real-time: http...   Apr 27 2006, 09:53
- - Liisachan   I didn't mean "Theora is hard to play....   Apr 27 2006, 11:33
- - vlada   I earlier already mentioned, that Ogg formats are ...   Jun 5 2006, 12:38
|- - kjoonlee   QUOTE (vlada @ Jun 5 2006, 20:38) 3) Why ...   Jun 8 2006, 12:06
|- - SebastianG   QUOTE (vlada @ Jun 5 2006, 13:38) I earli...   Jun 8 2006, 15:55
|- - vlada   QUOTE (SebastianG @ Jun 8 2006, 16:55) QU...   Jun 8 2006, 17:00
|- - jcoalson   QUOTE (vlada @ Jun 8 2006, 11:00) I know ...   Jun 8 2006, 20:54
- - VEG   QUOTE I earlier already mentioned, that Ogg format...   Jun 6 2006, 12:36
|- - vlada   QUOTE (VEG @ Jun 6 2006, 13:36) QUOTE I e...   Jun 6 2006, 16:59
- - gameplaya15143   QUOTE (vlada @ Jun 5 2006, 07:38) 1) Fix ...   Jun 6 2006, 22:56
- - gameplaya15143   For Ogg Theora I have been using *.ogv (.ogg opens...   Jun 8 2006, 17:13
|- - LaserSokrates   QUOTE (gameplaya15143 @ Jun 8 2006, 18:13...   Jun 8 2006, 17:39
- - jorsol   The big problem is not to have only one extension ...   Jun 8 2006, 18:35
- - vlada   gameplaya15143 I don't have OggDS or CoreVorbi...   Jun 8 2006, 20:35
- - HotshotGG   QUOTE I know exactly what is OGM and I also know, ...   Jun 8 2006, 23:45
|- - SebastianG   QUOTE (HotshotGG @ Jun 9 2006, 00:45) The...   Jun 9 2006, 11:08
- - foxyshadis   QUOTE (vlada @ Jun 8 2006, 09:00) I know ...   Jun 11 2006, 04:52
|- - vlada   QUOTE (foxyshadis @ Jun 11 2006, 05:52) Q...   Jun 13 2006, 08:19
- - jorsol   QUOTE (SebastianG @ Jun 9 2006, 04:08) No...   Jun 13 2006, 15:58
- - gameplaya15143   @vlada: this applies to illiminable's oggcodec...   Jun 14 2006, 00:42
- - jorsol   QUOTE (gameplaya15143 @ Jun 13 2006, 17:4...   Jun 14 2006, 01:57


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