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Multiformat Listening Test @ 128 kbps - OPEN
Sebastian Mares
post Dec 5 2005, 16:17
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Hello!

I would like to announce the launch of my public, multiformat listening test @ 128 kbps.

The encoders featured are:
  • Nero AAC 3.1.0.2
  • iTunes AAC 6.0.1.3
  • LAME 3.97 Beta 2
  • Ogg Vorbis AoTuV 4.51 Beta
  • WMA Professional 9.1
  • Shine 0.1.4 (Low Anchor)
For further information on how to participate, please visit the test announcement page:
http://www.maresweb.de/listening-tests/mf_128_1.php

The test is scheduled to end on December 25th, 2005.

Update: The test was extended to end on January 13th, 2006.

Thank you!

Regards,
Sebastian Mares

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Sebastian Mares
post Dec 5 2005, 16:19
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For those using BitTorrent, statistics are available here:

http://www.rarewares.org/tracker/mystats.php

Please use BT whenever possible.

Thanks to Roberto for sharing. smile.gif

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post Dec 5 2005, 16:39
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Can you reformat the readme.txt file so that it wraps properly?
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post Dec 5 2005, 16:40
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QUOTE (ff123 @ Dec 5 2005, 04:39 PM)
Can you reformat the readme.txt file so that it wraps properly?
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How many characters per line - 72?

I tried to wrap it around 70 characters. It's a bit more sometimes due to URLs.

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post Dec 5 2005, 17:24
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Just a little note: If you can't hear sound when you press the Play button, try changing the playback device in Options->Settings->Playback. Seems like with some soundcards the default setting won't work.
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post Dec 5 2005, 17:27
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QUOTE (schnofler @ Dec 6 2005, 01:24 AM)
Just a little note: If you can't hear sound when you press the Play button, try changing the playback device in Options->Settings->Playback. Seems like with some soundcards the default setting won't work.
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Good advice. For me it defaulted to my capture card, but it is easy to simply change it to primary sound driver.


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post Dec 5 2005, 17:36
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aacenc32.dll ver. 3.1.0.2. Nero7 has 3.0.0.2. Is it newer aacenc than from Nero7 package?
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post Dec 5 2005, 17:40
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QUOTE (IgorC @ Dec 5 2005, 05:36 PM)
aacenc32.dll  ver. 3.1.0.2.  Nero7 has 3.0.0.2.  Is it newer aacenc than from Nero7 package?
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Yes.

If you click on "Nero AAC 3.1.0.2" on the presentation page, it will let you download a ZIP containing the encoder DLLs. Also, check out this post.

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post Dec 5 2005, 17:42
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I made a html version of the readme.txt file. I fixed a couple of typos too.

readme.htm


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post Dec 5 2005, 17:44
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QUOTE (Alex B @ Dec 5 2005, 05:42 PM)
I made a html version of the readme.txt file. I fixed a couple of typos too.

readme.htm
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Ah, nice, thanks. What typos? tongue.gif And do you mind if I update the ABC-HR_bin.zip file to include your HTML?


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post Dec 5 2005, 17:49
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QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Dec 5 2005, 08:40 AM)
If you click on "Nero AAC 3.1.0.2" on the presentation page, it will let you download a ZIP containing the encoder DLLs. Also, check out this post.
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Thanks. Iīve already noticed that.
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post Dec 5 2005, 17:49
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Use it as you like. Be my guest.

Typos (if i remember correctly):
then you in the beginning and extra spaces in the torrent links before the numbers 17 and 18.

Edit: typo tongue.gif

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post Dec 5 2005, 17:54
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Conduct, conduct, conduct...


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QUOTE (Alex B @ Dec 5 2005, 05:49 PM)
Use it as you like. Be my guest.

Typos (if i remember correctly):
then you in the beginning and extra spaces in the torrent links before the numbers 17 and 18.

Edit: typo  tongue.gif
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Ah thanks. Don't know what you mean with the torrent links, though. unsure.gif


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post Dec 5 2005, 18:00
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They were like this after I pasted the text file into Dreamweaver:

Sample 17.zip.torrent TheDraperyFalls
Sample 18.zip.torrent WhiteAmerica

Perhaps it was something on my side...

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post Dec 5 2005, 18:41
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Sebastian,

The TorrentStorm link in my html is wrong. It has extra html code included and doesn't work. I'll fix it in 5 minutes.


EDIT

I fixed it, but when I tested the link I found this:

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30th March 2005.

For personal reasons, I have been unable to continue with the development of Torrentstorm, and have decided that until I can continue with its development, it is best to close this site. Thank you to all who have helped and supported torrentstorms development, and I hope to see you all again soon.


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post Dec 5 2005, 18:45
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QUOTE (Alex B @ Dec 5 2005, 06:41 PM)
Sebastian,

The Torrent Storm link in my html is wrong. It has extra html code included and doesn't work. I'll fix it in 5 minutes.
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I re-did the HTML using plain HTML 4. No styles, whatsoever.


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post Dec 5 2005, 19:01
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I have currently 18 BitTornado clients running. It seems to work, but my web browsing is very sluggish.

Personally I would prefer eMule (and the eD2K & Kad networks it uses).


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post Dec 5 2005, 19:05
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QUOTE (Alex B @ Dec 5 2005, 07:01 PM)
I have currently 18 BitTornado clients running. It seems to work, but my web browsing is very sluggish.

Personally I would prefer eMule (and the eD2K & Kad networks it uses).
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You just need a proper bittorrent client, like:
Azureus
BitComet
ĩTorrent

Oh, and it still says "conduce" everywhere on the pages...


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post Dec 5 2005, 19:06
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Hey, I'm wondering if I should try and participate in this listening test. I have never done anything like this, but I think it should be interesting. Now, in the readme, it says that headphones are a must. I have a pair of Bose QuietComfort, that have noise cancellation. Would they be usable?

And just some advice regarding the bittorrent stuff. You should have put all the sample archives in one torrent file, then it's much easier to seed/leech. For those of you complaining of slow browsing, when you're running bittorrent, you need to limit your upload speed in the client. Now, a good client for windows, that have one window for several torrents, is ĩTorrent.
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post Dec 5 2005, 19:16
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QUOTE (Gambit @ Dec 5 2005, 07:05 PM)
Oh, and it still says "conduce" everywhere on the pages...
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Ah! Sorry, didn't get that the first time you posted.


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post Dec 5 2005, 19:18
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QUOTE (eisa01 @ Dec 5 2005, 07:06 PM)
Hey, I'm wondering if I should try and participate in this listening test. I have never done anything like this, but I think it should be interesting. Now, in the readme, it says that headphones are a must. I have a pair of Bose QuietComfort, that have noise cancellation. Would they be usable?
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I think so, I don't have much experience with headphones.

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And just some advice regarding the bittorrent stuff. You should have put all the sample archives in one torrent file, then it's much easier to seed/leech. For those of you complaining of slow browsing, when you're running bittorrent, you need to limit your upload speed in the client. Now, a good client for windows, that have one window for several torrents, is ĩTorrent.
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I will tell that Roberto he's responsible for hosting the samples and preparing the torrents.


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QUOTE (Alex B @ Dec 5 2005, 06:42 PM)
I made a html version of the readme.txt file. I fixed a couple of typos too.

readme.htm
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I changed the file again. It has the three mentioned client links.


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post Dec 5 2005, 19:55
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Hm ... Why nobody care about final size? Itīs already normal.
ĻItīs VBR. Itīs normal that real bitrate will be 140 kbit/s while nominal bitrate 128Ļ
I think itīs normal that audiocodec can produce some deviation from nominal bitrate . But there is difference between final size of files encoded by different audiocodecs. Ok , maybe itunes better than nero, but itunes almost always has a bigger file size. Maybe at the same file size the result will be different.

Yes, Iīm caring about final size. My mp3player has 256 mb. And If my mp3s will have 264 mb I doubt I can explain point about VBR to my mp3player.

The same discussion was about testing of videocodecs. Some videocodecs always produced slightly bigger size than others. But itīs not reason to left it as is. Itīs impossible to feat 4600 mb gb to 1 standard DVD 4486 Mb.

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If bittorrent is an issue, they can go as HTTP or FTP downloads on the HA server. Bandwidth shouldn't be an issue, we have enough left.
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