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New full (!) Lame frontend with cd ripper!, Do you know about Shefl Advanced?
Alex.
post Nov 4 2005, 01:11
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Hi to All!
I think it will be best front-end in the world!
Features of Shefl:

* Audio grabber for CD-ROM drives
o Sector synchronization (jitter correction)
o Automatic Speed reduction control
o Supported CD types: Audio, Mix Mode, Extra
o Copying Audio from "unlimited" count of Drives by turn,
with your mp3-CD settings for each track.
(e.g . You have 2 drives and 2 Cd discs. Just set Lame parameters for each & thats all)
o You can set Lame parameters for each (!) track
before processing
o Writing ID tags (3v1,3v2) during CD extraction

* Front-end
o ALL of Lame settings
o Transcoding (mp3 >> mp3) with saving default ID tags
o Support of encoding multiple files in a batch
o Easy to use Lame filters (low & high pass)
o Menu "Favorites" with favorites Lame settings
o Multilanguage support (English & Russian now)
o Possibility of setting parameters for each file separately

And other...

This program is freeware.

http://shefl.ho.com.ua/
Thanks.

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Digga
post Nov 4 2005, 01:55
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welcome to HA.

hmm, what resources do you use for CD ripping or is it homegrown?
personally, I don't see a good reason to include these routines if we have EAC... but competition is never bad wink.gif

I like the feature of setting parameters for each file separately.

however, the English language file is not correctly loaded here.
"can't load the language file from the registry" error message (WinXPSP2)

a version without installer would be nice too.


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post Nov 4 2005, 02:04
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Maybe you have some restriction on Windows?
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post Nov 4 2005, 02:11
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I also get an error after installation, no english characters, just "????????"


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post Nov 4 2005, 02:12
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Alex.

Same here : "Cannot load language from registry. Try to reinstall Shefl."
And that's not all. Due to the fact that I'm Russian I continue working with the program using russian interface.. smile.gif Ouch ! 'Access violation at adress...' blah-blah-blah... Maybe the program works, eventually, but
I'll try it later. Maybe you will fix some bugs by that time.

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post Nov 4 2005, 02:17
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I am ashamed
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I'll try to fix it as soon as possible.
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post Nov 4 2005, 02:28
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Take it easy mate, your idea is very cool ! I'm sure a lot of people around are dreaming of such a tiny but powerful Lame encoder. Your job is almost done and you're just a few steps from completing it. Good luck !

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post Nov 4 2005, 03:17
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Ok. I fixed it stupid error! wink.gif
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post Nov 4 2005, 04:10
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QUOTE (Alex. @ Nov 4 2005, 03:17 AM)
Ok. I fixed it stupid error!  wink.gif
works here now. btw, the installation menu still says beta 1.
QUOTE (Leo 69 @ Nov 4 2005, 02:12 AM)
And that's not all. Due to the fact that I'm Russian I continue working with the program using russian interface.. smile.gif Ouch ! 'Access violation at adress...' blah-blah-blah... Maybe the program works, eventually, but
I'll try it later. Maybe you will fix some bugs by that time.
I had and still have the same problem when closing the option menu:
'access violation at address 004A3442 in module 'shelf.exe'...'
this is not reproduceable 100%. happens maybe 1 out of 3 times .

as a sidenote, I think that it would be dangerous to new users regarding quality to make quite a lot of switches available in the frontend (low- and highpass, strictly ISO, etc).

edit: the tooltips belonging to the big icons at the top menu bar are not translated.

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post Nov 4 2005, 04:36
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either a deinstallation option or a zipped version would be nice too wink.gif


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post Nov 4 2005, 12:28
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I had and still have the same problem when closing the option menu:
'access violation at address 004A3442 in module 'shelf.exe'...'
this is not reproduceable 100%. happens maybe 1 out of 3 times .

I know about it, thnx. But everything works even with this. I think i rewrite code tomorrow or later (it'll be lame command line parser (therefor you see this error )) and everything will be ok!
I rewrite Shefl (not Shelf!) second time. - code improvements . to the point: CD -track detection is faster then other rippers.and I never understand why EAC use 9 threads (!!!!!!) and why it is not destroying system resources (!!!) . and if author do (THIS errors) i cannot entrust to EAC.....stop smile.gif

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I think that it would be dangerous to new users

. there are a lot of other front-ends for "ordinary users" but his last name is "Advanced", and it's for "expert users".
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post Nov 4 2005, 13:23
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QUOTE (Alex. @ Nov 4 2005, 03:28 AM)
there are a lot of other front-ends for "ordinary users" but his last name is "Advanced", and it's for "expert users". smile.gif  smile.gif
Well, to be honest it's quite the opposite, the advanced users are using simple switches which are tested and are proven to be the best settings...
...apart from long command line strings the newbies are using... Look at this. wink.gif


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post Nov 4 2005, 14:33
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QUOTE (k.eight.a @ Nov 4 2005, 06:23 AM)
QUOTE (Alex. @ Nov 4 2005, 03:28 AM)
there are a lot of other front-ends for "ordinary users" but his last name is "Advanced", and it's for "expert users". :)  :)
Well, to be honest it's quite the opposite, the advanced users are using simple switches which are tested and are proven to be the best settings...
...apart from long command line strings the newbies are using... Look at this. ;)
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1. We have a party tomorrow. We need music. We Have only hardware player that plays ISO mp3 very well but non - standart (Like Lame) plays with sound interruption.

2. I want to have mp3 music on mobile. I compress it with min. bitrate. In this case it is necessary to compress it with some filters to improve quality.

and the like... Can't remember at once.
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post Nov 4 2005, 14:54
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Alex.: Ahh, I see sorry! Good argumentation... *THUMBS UP*


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post Nov 8 2005, 10:04
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Alex, I like your program and am keen to use it.

However, I can't see how to link in to Freedb.

Do you have the option of linking in to AccurateRip too? It would nice to have the option to switch in an out of AccurateRip as I don't think it recognises CDRs.

Good work.

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post Nov 8 2005, 15:29
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Alex, I like your program and am keen to use it.


Thanks Bruno for these words. Only some words and I am in a good mood, day
long.


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However, I can't see how to link in to Freedb.


Shefl has no CDDB (FreeDB and other) yet but OF COURSE, certainly this feature will appear soon!
First when I was writing Shefl I tried to build it to "Russian/Ukraine
roads". Most people who live there have no Internet but all of them listen to
the music. Shefl has powerfull Tag editor. You can manually edit ID Tags DURING CD ripping.

Thanks.
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Shefl has no CDDB (FreeDB and other) yet but OF COURSE, certainly this feature will appear soon!
First when I was writing Shefl I tried to build it to "Russian/Ukraine
roads". Most people who live there have no Internet but all of them listen to
the music. Shefl has powerfull Tag editor. You can manually edit ID Tags DURING CD ripping.

Thanks.
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Alex, thanks for your response. I'm glad you're having a great day and I look forward to the time when you can add Freedb access to Shefl.

In the West we forget how lucky we are to have internet access at a cost we can afford.
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post Nov 11 2005, 10:29
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When I ripped a CDR yesterday, Shefl skipped a track and gave the error message 'Lame may not be configured correctly'.

On EAC it ripped fine.

Have I got the Shefl set-up correct?
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post Nov 12 2005, 00:07
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OK, please don't take this as personal attacks or anything, but I'm just not a big fan of sweet talking. I rather cut to the chase, and say what I think right away. Just so that you're prepared for what's coming... wink.gif

This is pretty bad. I understand this is not a final version, but it seems to be in development for two years, so I'd expect a bit more mature project. But so far it's just awful. From the hideous web page on an unreliable host (and trust me, I know that, I'm from that country) over the terrible installer up to the main program itself. The interface looks like a bad idea from the eighties, translation is obviously not working, lots of "?????" everywhere and a lot of effort has been put into user unfriendliness, it seems. Why put the menu on top, every other application does it. Let's be "different"! Well, different is not always better. The same goes for the Lame settings bloat and the butt ugly interface (I know I said it already, but it's just THAT ugly). Oh, and really, no matter how good (or you think) a program is, it should ALWAYS have an uninstaller option. Please.

Okay, I think that's enough for now, I don't want to scare you too much.

Oh, but what about the stolen sources from CDex? Fuck the GPL, eh? Not cool... mad.gif


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post Nov 12 2005, 02:23
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OK, please don't take this as personal attacks or anything, but I'm just not a big fan of sweet talking.

First thanks for sharp criticism. It's desirable thing.
Ok, start to consider it.
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it seems to be in development for two years, so I'd expect a bit more mature project. But so far it's just awful.

I took sources from my friened 4 month ago. I did it because the idea was cool and there were not any analogues.
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From the hideous web page

This project have been started recently so I have no time to improve web page next days. Sorry.
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on an unreliable host (and trust me, I know that, I'm from that country)

I didn't noticed any "unreliabilities" on this host. If something happens then I'll think about. Thanks for the notice wink.gif
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over the terrible installer

Why it's terrible? Maybe you really didn't see "terrible installers".
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up to the main program itself. The interface looks like a bad idea from the eighties, translation is obviously not working, lots of "?????" everywhere and a lot of effort has been put into user unfriendliness, it seems. ....The same goes for the Lame settings bloat and the butt ugly interface (I know I said it already, but it's just THAT ugly)....

Well, first download v0.85.The next.
About interface. Maybe you run Shefl under 800*600 or 1024*768. Try it on 1280 or 1152 or higher. It looks excellently! Of course I'll adapt Shefl under low resolutions.
And you say that Lame settings is bloating out? Oh, that's not my mistake wink.gif . But. I want (and it's not concerned only of me) to manipulate with ALL of Lame settings in ONE window and I cannot to remember all that Lame can, I mean Lame switches.
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Why put the menu on top, every other application does it. Let's be "different"! Well, different is not always better.

"Let's be "different"!" Why not?
And, you know, that if you placed start menu at the bottom more convenient to work with porgrams that have menu at the bottom too.
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Oh, and really, no matter how good (or you think) a program is, it should ALWAYS have an uninstaller option. Please.

I might have guessed it wink.gif. But anyway thanks for remind.
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Oh, but what about the stolen sources from CDex? Fuck the GPL, eh? Not cool

Why do you think that that "STOLEN" sources?

P.s. I am quite impatient for ansewers.

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Only now I noticed, that that was Burrrn developer.
No comments.
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post Nov 12 2005, 02:35
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QUOTE (Alex. @ Nov 11 2005, 05:31 PM)
Only now I noticed, that that was Burrrn developer.
No comments.
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Burrrned!!! tongue.gif


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QUOTE (Clemech @ Nov 11 2005, 03:29 AM)
When I ripped a CDR yesterday, Shefl skipped a track and gave the error message 'Lame may not be configured correctly'.

On EAC it ripped fine.

Have I got the Shefl set-up correct?
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QUOTE (Alex. @ Nov 11 2005, 09:31 PM)
Only now I noticed, that that was Burrrn developer.
No comments.
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Because he is the Burrrn developer, he may be in a better position to comment on your app than anyone else. And he is right: the interface is poor and the design looks like something a 10-year old would draw with MS Paint.

No FreeDB support but designed with 1280x resolutions in mind... Interesting. Does that mean that people over there can afford 21" monitors but not Internet access?

Having no uninstaller is unforgivable. No half-decent programmer would release an application without one. This is by far the poorest excuse for a CD ripper I have seen.
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Please refrain from the "trash" talk in this thread. He made a program you dont have to go an call it the "poorest excuse for a CD Ripper". I believe constructive criticism is what is needed not just blatant generalisations (referring also to "No FreeDB support but designed with 1280x resolutions in mind... Interesting. Does that mean that people over there can afford 21" monitors but not Internet access?").

Good luck with the program and I hope you can make it better in future.

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