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Plans For --alt-presets, Etc, In Lame 3.93
Dibrom
post Oct 10 2002, 04:12
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It appears that a 3.93 release is fairly close now, but I think the following things need to happen before everyone decides that it is the appropriate time to do so:

1. Takehiro's code and fixes need to be merged, at least enabled on the --alt-presets. I plan on using his --substep code, and also he apparently made some significant fixes to pre-echo handling in the --alt-presets. These need to be in the next version.

2. I will use the --substep code in addition to other tweaks to create 2 more presets to provide lower bitrate alternatives to --alt-preset standard.

3. Some information in the --alt-preset help should be clarified.

4. Listening tests need to take place to verify that no samples have been degraded so far.

5. Tests of all original samples need to take place to pinpoint improvements and to find out where there are still problems.

6. With this data, maybe some more tuning can take place.

7. Retest remaining problem samples.

8. Shoot for a release.

I might have missed some stuff there, but I can't think of it atm.

I've just downloaded Takehiro's latest code and the current standard 3.93 from CVS, and plan to spend time this week and this weekend implementing these new presets and testing for quality. I'll probably be posting some builds here very soon (maybe tomorrow) and I hope that people can report their results to me. The new presets will be a bit experimental at first, so the more help testing, the better.

I'm not exactly sure how long this testing process will take, but I think it's important to have all of this stuff in place before another release is made.

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- Dibrom   Plans For --alt-presets, Etc, In Lame 3.93   Oct 10 2002, 04:12
- - JohnV   Seems that the only real progress would be coming ...   Oct 10 2002, 04:36
- - Benjamin Lebsanft   did anyone contact mark taylor or another develope...   Oct 10 2002, 05:27
- - JohnV   The problem with Lame development is that nobody r...   Oct 10 2002, 05:52
- - Negative Zero   As an end user, I'm all for the idea of holdin...   Oct 10 2002, 07:19
- - britannica   It's good to know efforts are being made for 3...   Oct 10 2002, 09:38
- - Gabriel   Alexander is (unofficially) in charge of the relea...   Oct 10 2002, 10:04
- - kjempen   How about voting over it, to see what users want?   Oct 10 2002, 10:56
- - SK1   ... I think Dibrom's and JohnV's suggestio...   Oct 10 2002, 11:14
- - dev0   Looks like quite a lot changes to me (compared to ...   Oct 10 2002, 15:26
- - Dibrom   QUOTE I personnaly prefer releasing often (if it d...   Oct 10 2002, 17:59
- - Oge_user   Why don't take in consideration a new/better l...   Oct 10 2002, 18:39
- - Dibrom   Gabriel: Have you been testing the --alt-preset m...   Oct 10 2002, 23:49
- - ezra2323   As an end user, just wanted to say thanks to all t...   Oct 11 2002, 00:08
- - Dibrom   Ok... here's the binary, as promised: The fol...   Oct 11 2002, 04:10
- - Dibrom   Just a small update... the .dll is needed by this...   Oct 11 2002, 04:53
- - flloyd   Hi, I noticed that --r3mix is still in LAME (or at...   Oct 11 2002, 04:56
- - Dibrom   QUOTE (flloyd @ Oct 10 2002 - 08:56 PM)Hi, I ...   Oct 11 2002, 05:04
- - ff123   tak3lame.exe attempts to communicate with somethin...   Oct 11 2002, 05:25
- - Dibrom   QUOTE (ff123 @ Oct 10 2002 - 09:25 PM)tak3lam...   Oct 11 2002, 05:30
- - ff123   QUOTE (Dibrom @ Oct 10 2002 - 08:30 PM)QUOTE ...   Oct 11 2002, 06:01
- - Dibrom   ff123: Very strange. I don't know what to sa...   Oct 11 2002, 06:06
- - harashin   tak3lame.exe seems to use qval=3 as standard. Shou...   Oct 11 2002, 07:08
- - ChS   I've encoded one CD (Halford - Resurrection) w...   Oct 11 2002, 07:41
- - Gabriel   Dibrom, I think that you should subscribe to lame-...   Oct 11 2002, 08:35
- - Continuum   QUOTE (Dibrom @ Oct 11 2002 - 05:10 AM)Ok... ...   Oct 11 2002, 09:02
- - Gabriel   Would it be also possible to test the "--pres...   Oct 11 2002, 09:29
- - Gabriel   For information, mail exchange between Alexander a...   Oct 11 2002, 10:11
- - ALeidinger   Hi, this is my first post here, so please forgive...   Oct 11 2002, 11:33
- - Gabriel   There are 2 kinds of QA with Lame: portability QA,...   Oct 11 2002, 12:05
- - Volcano   Alexander: I'm not an expert, but I'd agr...   Oct 11 2002, 12:15
- - JohnV   QUOTE (harashin @ Oct 11 2002 - 09:08 AM)tak3...   Oct 11 2002, 15:30
- - jth   I'm posting this here because I'm not sure...   Oct 11 2002, 17:36
- - takehiro   uum, seems I am too much delayed to notice this th...   Oct 11 2002, 18:09
- - ALeidinger   QUOTE (Gabriel @ Oct 11 2002 - 01:05 PM)If yo...   Oct 11 2002, 18:33
- - ALeidinger   QUOTE (jth @ Oct 11 2002 - 06:36 PM)I'm p...   Oct 11 2002, 18:44
- - Gabriel   I was thinking more of a "concern" from ...   Oct 11 2002, 18:44
- - ALeidinger   Is there any other thread I should look at (at the...   Oct 11 2002, 18:50
- - Dibrom   By the same token, we have many users to which i...   Oct 11 2002, 21:01
- - Dibrom   QUOTE (Gabriel @ Oct 11 2002 - 04:05 AM)ps: D...   Oct 11 2002, 21:03
- - Dibrom   QUOTE (ALeidinger @ Oct 11 2002 - 10:33 AM)QU...   Oct 11 2002, 21:05
- - Dibrom   QUOTE What I can say is .... my branch contains to...   Oct 11 2002, 21:11
- - Dibrom   Anyway, since it appears that Takehiro himself doe...   Oct 11 2002, 21:13
- - Manu   Quick results for only one tested song (I have not...   Oct 11 2002, 22:30
- - Dibrom   Thanks for the results Continuum and Manu. Due to...   Oct 12 2002, 00:25
- - ezra2323   That's too bad! I can't think of any ...   Oct 12 2002, 01:15
- - ChS   Doh! Well, I just finished encoding anothe...   Oct 12 2002, 01:50
- - [proxima]   I agree very much with Dibrom and I wish that in a...   Oct 12 2002, 08:49
- - ALeidinger   By the same token, we have many users to which i...   Oct 12 2002, 18:11
- - ALeidinger   QUOTE (Dibrom @ Oct 11 2002 - 10:05 PM)You co...   Oct 12 2002, 18:16
- - ALeidinger   QUOTE (ezra2323 @ Oct 12 2002 - 02:15 AM)I ca...   Oct 12 2002, 18:35
- - krsna77   Well, I for one don't care what LAME is releas...   Oct 12 2002, 23:48
- - Dibrom   By the same token, we have many users to which i...   Oct 13 2002, 00:46
- - SK1   I just want to say...i hear you...nothing more to ...   Oct 13 2002, 14:18
- - Volcano   Dibrom: QUOTE Rest assured that I do still have p...   Oct 13 2002, 15:57
- - Disposable Hero   There is no spoon... but I hope there is a fork.   Oct 13 2002, 19:38
- - dxiv   Dibrom, First off, please don't take any of t...   Oct 13 2002, 19:38
- - fewtch   Dxiv (and others), I also ask you to please not ta...   Oct 13 2002, 19:49
- - Kblood   I have been reading this thread with much attentio...   Oct 13 2002, 21:47
- - Gabriel   My own opinion: I am not a major contributor to L...   Oct 13 2002, 22:37
- - Dibrom   I just want to give an update on this situation. ...   Oct 13 2002, 22:50
- - Dibrom   @Gabriel: The problem (at least mine) is not that...   Oct 13 2002, 22:57
- - westgroveg   Dibrom, I think they take this as a hobby if itís ...   Oct 14 2002, 00:10
- - Dibrom   QUOTE Dibrom, I think they take this as a hobby if...   Oct 14 2002, 00:17
- - mpcfiend   @ Dibrom: Shut up. Shutup shutup shutup. (DAMN...   Oct 14 2002, 04:21
- - westgroveg   QUOTE (mpcfiend @ Oct 14 2002 - 03:21 PM)@ Di...   Oct 14 2002, 05:10
- - p0wder   QUOTE (mpcfiend @ Oct 13 2002 - 07:21 PM)@ Di...   Oct 14 2002, 05:23
- - NickSD   Dibrom, I'd just like to say that I think your...   Oct 14 2002, 06:18
- - Gabriel   Well, of course KDE, Kernel, OpenOffice, Mozilla, ...   Oct 14 2002, 07:54
- - Gabriel   Ps for some posters: In this thread we are gently ...   Oct 14 2002, 07:55
- - PoisonDan   QUOTE I don't think I will fork lame per se, b...   Oct 14 2002, 08:37
- - westgroveg   QUOTE (Gabriel @ Oct 14 2002 - 06:55 PM)Ps fo...   Oct 14 2002, 09:24
- - SK1   QUOTE (mpcfiend @ Oct 14 2002 - 03:21 AM)@ Di...   Oct 14 2002, 10:41
- - takehiro   This is the mail I wrote to LAME-DEV@sf.net with s...   Oct 14 2002, 19:22
- - Benjamin Lebsanft   i would be interested how the latest developments ...   Oct 14 2002, 19:33
- - robert   count down stopped   Oct 14 2002, 20:47
- - Dibrom   @takehiro: Thank you! This is some very goo...   Oct 14 2002, 21:27
- - Dibrom   One more thing... I will probably subscribe to th...   Oct 14 2002, 21:32
- - SK1   Personally, i'm eager to check it out. Gonna w...   Oct 14 2002, 22:27
- - robert   the above are ICL compiles of Takehiro's branc...   Oct 14 2002, 22:29
- - rjamorim   QUOTE (robert @ Oct 14 2002 - 06:29 PM)the ab...   Oct 14 2002, 22:40
- - Dibrom   I mirrored them here (zipped instead of gzipped): ...   Oct 14 2002, 22:50
- - robert   There are only a few small patches you'll have...   Oct 14 2002, 22:59
- - Dibrom   QUOTE (robert @ Oct 14 2002 - 02:59 PM)There ...   Oct 14 2002, 23:02
- - SK1   I'm a bit confused. "LAME version MMX ...   Oct 14 2002, 23:05
- - Dibrom   Just a note.. the current version crashes when -Y ...   Oct 14 2002, 23:15
- - rjamorim   QUOTE (SK1 @ Oct 14 2002 - 07:05 PM)I thought...   Oct 14 2002, 23:20
- - SK1   OH! ..   Oct 14 2002, 23:21
- - Volcano   Dibrom: Could you be so kind as to give us just a ...   Oct 14 2002, 23:59
- - Dibrom   Volcano: Yes, I'll try to upload most of the ...   Oct 15 2002, 00:12
- - Dibrom   Oh, btw... --r3mix completely screwed up sounding ...   Oct 15 2002, 00:15
- - fewtch   QUOTE (Dibrom @ Oct 14 2002 - 04:15 PM)Oh, bt...   Oct 15 2002, 01:01
- - Dibrom   QUOTE (fewtch @ Oct 14 2002 - 05:01 PM)QUOTE ...   Oct 15 2002, 01:11
- - ssamadhi97   ha, just make lame quit without any encoding... ...   Oct 15 2002, 01:36
- - mithrandir   If --r3mix is aliased to --aps, which I think it s...   Oct 15 2002, 01:59
- - ff123   QUOTE (Dibrom @ Oct 14 2002 - 12:27 PM)Once t...   Oct 15 2002, 02:23
- - mithrandir   What a speed improvement! I'm using the la...   Oct 15 2002, 02:31
- - Benjamin Lebsanft   are the new presets already in ? I can't get t...   Oct 15 2002, 13:51
- - joey   Hi I'm not a developer but a kind of a long-ti...   Oct 15 2002, 19:43
- - Destroid   QUOTE (Gabriel @ Oct 14 2002 - 06:55 AM)Ps fo...   Oct 15 2002, 20:44


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