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Adding ReplayGain tags kills/moves original tags!
Rowan
post Aug 17 2005, 23:04
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I can't seem to add ReplayGain tags to my mp3s without foobar mutilating my other tags. For example, depending on the options I've chosen (tag to write: ID3v1 only, ID3v1 & V2, etc), instead of simply adding replaygain tags (ID3v2), foobar decides to either:

(a) copy my ID3v2 tags over to my ID3v1 tags (artist, title, etc)
(b) delete my ID3v1 tags (artist, title, etc)

These are things I don't want it to do. All I'm trying to do is ADD ReplayGain tags, and I dont want any of my other tags touched, copied, or moved. Is it possible somehow?

I'm not the only one getting frustrated by this it seems... http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showthre...ed=1#post294203

[ 1st post - sorry if its in the wrong place. ]
[ I'm a lover of foobar, keep up the good work - I love the ORDER BY ARTIST feature in the playlist, which winamp doesnt have]

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post Aug 30 2005, 22:54
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foobar2000 is a general audio player with metadata handling that abstracts from the actual audio and tag format. That's why you will find a generic tag editor, but no ID3v2, ID3v1 or APEv2 (just to mention tag types used with MP3 files) tag editor in it. It has never been an ID3-centric MP3 player like so many others. It did not even have support for ID3v2 at all for a long time.

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I told it to add ReplayGain frames in the firm belief that that was what it'd do.
I've never seen an "Add ReplayGain frames" command in foobar2000. I'd say have been fooled by your assumptions.

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It didn't - it did a whole lot more, and I don't understand why an operation as simple as adding a frame would require changing and overwriting a completely unrelated tag.
It is not required as a part of the technical process of updating the ID3v2 tag of an MP3 file. foobar2000 does it anyway, because its creator and most people who use it prefer the player to keep information in all tag types on a given file consistent automatically. Regarding the "most people", this thread is the first time that I see people complaining about that.

As picmixer pointed out, if foobar2000 does not do the job the way you want, just use another tool. He might have come across as a little harsh, but so have you.

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post Aug 30 2005, 23:14
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QUOTE (foosion @ Aug 30 2005, 11:54 PM)
foobar2000 is a general audio player with metadata handling that abstracts from the actual audio and tag format. That's why you will find a generic tag editor, but no ID3v2, ID3v1 or APEv2 (just to mention tag types used with MP3 files) tag editor in it. It has never been an ID3-centric MP3 player like so many others. It did not even have support for ID3v2 at all for a long time.
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I told it to add ReplayGain frames in the firm belief that that was what it'd do.
I've never seen an "Add ReplayGain frames" command in foobar2000. I'd say have been fooled by your assumptions.
Okay, the entry is "Scan per-file track-gain". Still gives the impression that it's going to, you know, scan per-file track-gain, not synchronize my tags.
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It didn't - it did a whole lot more, and I don't understand why an operation as simple as adding a frame would require changing and overwriting a completely unrelated tag.
It is not required as a part of the technical process of updating the ID3v2 tag of an MP3 file. foobar2000 does it anyway, because its creator and most people who use it prefer the player to keep information in all tag types on a given file consistent automatically. Regarding the "most people", this thread is the first time that I see people complaining about that.

As picmixer pointed out, if foobar2000 does not do the job the way you want, just use another tool. He might have come across as a little harsh, but so have you.
I'm all for keeping tags synchronised if people want it - I don't have an issue with presenting metadata in an abstracted way. I just don't see why this policy is being enforced in this case, where it's absolutely unnecessary.

When people are editing tags, removing, updating - by all means synchronize the tag types if that's your thing - I wouldn't like it, but that is, as you say, totally irrelevant since I'm not really the intended user of this.

I would love to use another tool, but it seems that foobar is the only one that will write Replaygain info to ID3v2 tags. If there's another tool (that'll just add the TXXX frames) that I haven't found yet, I'd be happy to know.
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I don't, but thanks for the pointer - did make me wonder, but I figured it was something like this.


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post Sep 3 2005, 05:31
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Why not just re-run mp3gain and remove the tags?
I use mp3gain but do not let it use APE tagging because APE tagging is not compatible with many MP3 players.

I have no problems with then using foobar's replay gain. Writes into the ID3V2 tags just fine.

Seems a pretty simple solution.
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- Rowan   Adding ReplayGain tags kills/moves original tags!   Aug 17 2005, 23:04
- - foosion   QUOTE (Rowan @ Aug 18 2005, 12:04 AM)(a) copy...   Aug 18 2005, 02:15
- - Lyx   Reason why it is handled this way is because fb2k ...   Aug 18 2005, 10:17
- - Rowan   Rather than have foobar helpfully asume it knows w...   Aug 18 2005, 11:34
|- - anza   QUOTE (Rowan @ Aug 18 2005, 12:34 PM)What oth...   Aug 18 2005, 12:17
||- - Rowan   You right click, you choose Replaygain scan - ther...   Aug 18 2005, 12:56
|- - Lyx   QUOTE (Rowan @ Aug 18 2005, 12:34 PM)Rather t...   Aug 18 2005, 21:59
- - sithia   I just found foobar2000 and it actually does the o...   Aug 18 2005, 18:50
|- - Lyx   QUOTE (sithia @ Aug 18 2005, 07:50 PM)I run l...   Aug 18 2005, 22:07
||- - sithia   QUOTE (Lyx @ Aug 18 2005, 02:07 PM)I am not s...   Aug 18 2005, 23:14
|- - Mike Giacomelli   QUOTE (sithia @ Aug 18 2005, 10:50 AM)I just ...   Aug 19 2005, 01:23
- - Lyx   Hmm, wait a min - i think i may know where the pro...   Aug 19 2005, 00:10
|- - sithia   QUOTE (Lyx @ Aug 18 2005, 04:10 PM)It will st...   Aug 19 2005, 04:24
- - sithia   Seems Lyx hit it right. I was able to remove APE t...   Aug 19 2005, 16:04
- - rasher   QUOTE (foosion @ Aug 18 2005, 03:15 AM)Neithe...   Aug 30 2005, 16:54
- - Mike Giacomelli   QUOTE Well, that screenshots say that "Other ...   Aug 30 2005, 19:25
|- - rasher   QUOTE (Mike Giacomelli @ Aug 30 2005, 08:25 P...   Aug 30 2005, 21:27
- - picmixer   @rasher: Your tagging needs do not cohere with th...   Aug 30 2005, 21:42
|- - rasher   QUOTE (picmixer @ Aug 30 2005, 10:42 PM)@rash...   Aug 30 2005, 21:56
- - picmixer   You current posting style is not compatible with t...   Aug 30 2005, 22:00
- - foosion   foobar2000 is a general audio player with metadata...   Aug 30 2005, 22:54
|- - rasher   QUOTE (foosion @ Aug 30 2005, 11:54 PM)foobar...   Aug 30 2005, 23:14
|- - GHammer   Why not just re-run mp3gain and remove the tags? I...   Sep 3 2005, 05:31
- - R2D2   Why would you wan't apev2 tags anyway? Just do...   Sep 7 2005, 07:05
- - skywalka   I was thinnking of trying foobar. The Replay Gain...   Dec 22 2007, 13:00
- - shoe   I used foobar2000 9.5.1 to write replaygain info t...   Apr 8 2008, 20:16


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