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Bachi-Bouzouk
post May 3 2005, 12:08
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Hi

I've seen that foobar still lacks a manual in english


If someone has already done something, I'm greatly interested..

For the adress, go there:
http://eolindel.free.fr/foobar/

I know it's a bit short, but I had to start with something, the first steps should be a quick " tutorial " for new users

I'm french so I think I will continue with the help of the great manual
http://www.foobar2000.net/ and the links quoted on my website

but as english is not my native language, it will take a lot of time, and I'm having very important exams in the next weeks (Polytechniques and ENS for french people..). So don't be too hasty..

Comments and critics are welcome (especially for grammatical and vocabulary correction), please tell me if you see a broken link

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post May 3 2005, 12:31
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http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Foobar2000

In past few months, this has developed rather nicely. But it's nice to have options.
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post May 3 2005, 12:39
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QUOTE (gfngfgf @ May 3 2005, 12:31 PM)
http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Foobar2000

In past few months, this has developed rather nicely.  But it's nice to have options.
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I've seen it this morning, but it seems a bit too technical for me, but I didn't explore the whole site

I just want to do something where the most common user's won't be lost between long lists of tags and scripts,

As far as I've seen, the site you quoted is quite technical

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post May 3 2005, 12:40
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QUOTE (Bachi-Bouzouk @ May 3 2005, 01:08 PM)
and I'm having very important exams in the next weeks (Polytechniques and ENS for french people..). So don't be too hasty..
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OMG, do you mean that one needs to be able to study at X or ENS to use fb2k? ohmy.gif

Anyway, good luck.
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Bachi-Bouzouk
post May 3 2005, 12:44
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no just that I will have these exams in the next week and consequently, I won't be able to fully develop my site in the coming weeks.. But just a bit in the evening (to have some rest after thinking 4-6hours about pysics ot maths)


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post May 3 2005, 22:14
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I've not been idle. But as announced, it takes time to translate and while I' translating, I'm also learning a lot of things.. so it's even longer

I've added Entry, pictures and I'm trying to translate the setting page which is quite technical.

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post May 3 2005, 22:36
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QUOTE (Bachi-Bouzouk @ May 3 2005, 06:39 AM)
QUOTE (gfngfgf @ May 3 2005, 12:31 PM)
http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Foobar2000

In past few months, this has developed rather nicely.  But it's nice to have options.
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I've seen it this morning, but it seems a bit too technical for me, but I didn't explore the whole site

I just want to do something where the most common user's won't be lost between long lists of tags and scripts,

As far as I've seen, the site you quoted is quite technical
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http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?ti...wbie_User_Guide

Here's the newbie user guide, which I don't think is technical at all.
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Bachi-Bouzouk
post May 4 2005, 20:36
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well we have different opinions, it isn't a matter of importance I think.

Two manuals will always be better than one, and I do not consider mine as a competitor to wiki, just another way to present the things.

I've finished the setting page, just starting the replaygain one. Well I didn't think it would be so long and so interesting.. But as I'm doing some search about the things I don't know instead of just translating it.. It needs time and time and time...


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post May 4 2005, 20:52
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First of all, this manual is for a big part the translation of the http://www.foobar2000.net/ (a french guide)

Since you admit that fact, did you take the time to ask gURuBoOleZ Z what his opinion is?
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post May 4 2005, 21:00
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I've send two mail to him, do you think that sending him a third by the hardware.fr forum could improve my chance of getting an answer? (I'm also a member of hardware.fr) (it's a question, I'm not trying to argue..)


if he asks me to, I will put it off from the web but I've seen in this topic :
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....08&#entry287008
that he would be pleased if someone would translate it smile.gif

(I'm a fool, but I still have some respect for the work done by others..) cool.gif

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post May 4 2005, 21:04
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He actually has only limited access to internet, but you may improve you chance by sending a PM either from HA or HFR forum.

No, no one meant you were a fool. Right?
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post May 4 2005, 21:08
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ok, one of the two mails I've sent to him is a PM from HA, will send him a third by hardware.fr

sorry if my last post seemed to be aggressive,I've edited it with some smiley but you have answered before wink.gif

edit

The replaygain page has improved, I might finish it tomorrow between two chemical or physics formula biggrin.gif

I will next do the DSP page (which will represent a huge amount of work I think, even remaining global)

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post May 5 2005, 10:11
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The replaygain page is finished, I'm starting the DSP one


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post May 5 2005, 15:27
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I've finished the DSP page,

the only DSP which I couldn't know its effect is "move stereo to rear channels", if someone would explain it, it would be nice wink.gif

My page is a little bit more exhaustive than the original but not much

next, the reading order


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post May 5 2005, 21:26
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The order page has improved, but I'm a bit tired, be patient for the end..

Will go back to algebra (less interesting than understanding foobar biggrin.gif but more helpful for exams crying.gif )


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post May 6 2005, 22:48
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I've just finished the playlist management page:
http://eolindel.free.fr/foobar/playlist.html

as it contains many pictures, I will probably split it into two different pages

I think that i will do the masstagger page next

I also got a reply from guruboolez I've updated a bit the home page
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post May 7 2005, 23:23
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well I didn't write much today but I was trying to find some information about masstagging and I gave several dozens of topic to read (quite technical ones), but anyway, the masstagger page has started:
http://eolindel.free.fr/foobar/masstagger.html
As I am not a very powerful masstagger man, if some things said on the page are totally wrong, don't hesitate in any way to warn me or correct me.

And if some of the readers could give any feedback (positive or negative it doesn't matter) it would be a good thing, because I have the impression that a lot of people are intersted (600 "readings"? of the post) but without any feedback, it's hard to know if they find it interesting.. wink.gif


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post May 7 2005, 23:29
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I honestly think that it's a bit of a waste to be putting this much effort into something that isn't the Wiki at this point...


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post May 8 2005, 10:16
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QUOTE (Canar @ May 7 2005, 11:29 PM)
I honestly think that it's a bit of a waste to be putting this much effort into something that isn't the Wiki at this point...
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Maybe I am going to be banned, jeered, lynched or whatever but I think that the strength of the wiki makes unfortunately also its weakness.

Because the wiki is there to be accessible to anyone, even without any knowledge for HTML or else, but as a consequence, it's abilities are less important than HTML.
Moreover, as several users write the wiki, there is not always coherence between all that is said (but that is not very important).

But on the other hand, as it can be used by a lot of people, the knowledge written is quite huge. I did this manual because it interests me and I think that then putting a little link into the wiki would be sufficient. And as I told you, anyone who wants to use what I wrote for putting it into the Wiki is able to if he asks to.

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Okay, works for me. smile.gif Just my thoughts anyhow, didn't mean to try and downplay the importance of your work.


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The masstagger page has improved but I am rowing into the flow of TAGZ against its flow, as a consequence it is terribly slow to do something.. Hope I will learn faster and faster or it will take years to finish that demoniacal page..


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post May 11 2005, 21:27
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I've added a page about tags.
page about tags

I will finish the masstagger and TAGZ page after having translated the rest of foobar2000.net (5 or 6 pages maximum) as it is easier to translate than create a page 'especially concerning TAGZ).

As usual, grammatical mistakes, comments, critics are highly welcomed.

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new page about tags:
http://eolindel.free.fr/foobar/index2.html

nothing amazing but there is some interesting things and links

As usual, comments and critics are welcome!!

there is only the quicktag component left, I keep it for tomorrow, I am too tired tonight (hard meeting with elecricity/magnetism this morning and a week of exam is quite tiring, I am going to enjoy tomorrow 11am after my "computer exam")


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I've finished the tag page (quicktag and multiple edit added)

just starting freedb:
http://eolindel.free.fr/foobar/index2.html. I think I will finish it tomorrow. Then, I will probably improve th playlist and masstagger page.


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post May 15 2005, 20:39
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the freedb page is finished

As said above, I will work on the playlist page and maybe try to improve the "reading" design of the site and its architecture while it's time to do it. And maybe put a plan to give access to the interesting points more easily.

Edit:
http://eolindel.free.fr/foobar/index2.html

I've done the map of the site

it should be easier for people searching a specific item into the site

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