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Call for samples, For multi-format 64 kbps test 2005
Sebastian Mares
post Mar 24 2005, 20:48
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Greetings!

I would like to use this thread to collect samples for the upcoming multi-format 64 kbps listening test.

Every musical style is welcome. The ideal duration is 15-20 seconds, the preferred encoders are Monkey's Audio, FLAC or WavPack.

Samples should be attached to this thread.

Thank you for your cooperation.

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Sebastian Mares
post Mar 24 2005, 22:27
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Here are some samples I collected from the pre-test thread (/me loves IPB's multi-quote happy.gif):

QUOTE (sehested @ Mar 22 2005, 07:53 PM)
I would like to suggest the following sample for the listening test:

Supertramp - School

The 19s sample I have uploaded contains acoustic guitars, piano, cymbals and bass.

I have good experience with this sample in revealing subtle difference between encodings.

Let me hear what you think about the sample.

If desired I can upload a 30s version of the sample.
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QUOTE (sehested @ Mar 23 2005, 12:50 AM)
I have two more candiates for listening test samples...

They are both exceptionally well mastered using the Blumlein technique where the entire sound picture is captured at a single point, carefully chosen to achieve the optimum balance between direct sound and reverberation.

This makes unnecessary all forms of electronic correction and manipulation and the music signal travels by the absolutely shortest possible path between the microphone and the final CD.

The first sample is recorded in an old stone church:

Vaquero

The second sample is recorded in a jazz club:

Four Brothers

What's unussual with these recordings is their depth of image, timbre and dynamics.

For more info on the recording:

Opus3 Recordings
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QUOTE (sehested @ Mar 23 2005, 12:53 AM)
Yet another sample suggestion:

Dire Straits - Iron Hand
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QUOTE (Acid Orange Juice @ Mar 23 2005, 07:28 AM)
IMO this sample could be very useful for this test. In particular he cause a lot of phasing problems with lame --preset cbr 128 and Vorbis low bitrates.

Download HERE
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QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Mar 23 2005, 10:37 AM)
QUOTE (Gabriel @ Mar 22 2005, 08:01 PM)
Sample proposition: the beginning of "Money" by Pink Floyd.

I do not have it available, but I am sure some Pink Floyd fan could upload it.
Basically it is background music with coins and cash machine sounds. I think that the coins coud be interesting.
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http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=32628

Anyone interested in Time? tongue.gif
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QUOTE (jaybeee @ Mar 24 2005, 09:31 PM)
Between the 6-8sec mark this track can cause a lot of issues for low bitrates LAME mp3s - I used CBR 64kbps and it was easily ABX'able.

On 11 sec there's some 'crashing' coin-like sounds that are interesting.  After about 13 secs when the drums & bass (very low bass which is also a good tester) kicks in there's some switching of sounds between the left & right channels.

It's a sample from a 21 min track - a very demanding song indeed and one that I use (amongst others) when auditioning HiFi separates.

TITLE = Timeless (The Full Canvas)
ARTIST = Goldie Presents Metalheads
ALBUM = Timeless
TRACKNUMBER = 01
GENRE = Drum & Bass
ENCODER = EAC (Secure Mode) / FLAC 1.1.2

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post Mar 24 2005, 22:52
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Title: "Senor"
Artist: Paris Combo
Album: Living-room (1999)
Length: 17 seconds
Genre: Jazz
Description: on the far left side guitar, in centre female vocal, and on the right side drums which are joined by a soft trumpet. It is very easy to concentrate on the individual parts and spot possible artifacts. Attached File  Paris_Combo___Senor.flac ( 1.9MB ) Number of downloads: 344


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post Mar 24 2005, 22:59
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Could these samples help? unsure.gif
edit: Sample descriptions were written.

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post Mar 26 2005, 01:34
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This sample is from a Audio Magazin Listening Test CD.

Title: Dinner at Woolfie's
Artist: Toscho (Blues Company)

Description: Electric instruments (guitar, organ, bass, base drum), claves, drums played with brush.

Caution: High dynamics at low frequencies!

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post Mar 26 2005, 01:48
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My 2nd sample suggestion:

Title: Song For Guy
Artist: Elton John
Album: Greatest Hits

Description: Piano, Synthesizer, Electric bass, Bar Chimes

Both samples ripped with EAC Secure Mode + Test & Copy
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post Mar 26 2005, 02:37
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Hey, I'm not sure exactly if this sample would help any, but it just seems like with the switching of music types (going from acoustic to really hard very quickly) would be a problem for some encoders, and also maybe the long guitar note towards the end that seems to go in and out of phase.. anyways here you go..

Artist: Opeth
Album: Blackwater Park
Song: The Drapery Falls
Genre: Progressive Death Metal (Although I'm not sure if you could call Opeth this though..)
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post Mar 26 2005, 03:47
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Title: Just Like You Imagined
Artist: Nine Inch Nails
Album: The Fragile
Length: ~ 20 Seconds
Genre: Industrial Rock
Description: Instrumental - Starts with heavy drums, synths, and bass, then breaks to a softer keyboard/bass/synth verse.

Attached File  Nine_Inch_Nails___Just_Like_You_Imagined__edit_.flac ( 2.24MB ) Number of downloads: 331
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post Mar 26 2005, 03:56
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Sebastian Mares this sample is an instrumental from maná the title is coladito.
Is 20 sec as you requested.

MD5: e004223579af8c4a9b3238e1271335b3 Coladito.flac

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post Mar 27 2005, 20:40
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Title: Message From Silence
Artist: Řystein Sevĺg
Album: Close Your Eyes And See
Length: 20 Seconds
Encoder: FLAC 1.1.2
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post Mar 27 2005, 21:20
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I uploaded a few samples.
http://nyarlathotep33.free.fr/samples/

1. Cardinal - [Cardinal #05] Public Melody #1 [0:20]
2. Cocteau Twins - [Stars and Topsoil - A Collection (1982-1990) #05] Lorelei [0:20]
3. Everything But The Girl - [Home Movies: The Best #11] Imagining America [0:16]
4. Gang Of Four - [Entertainment ! #02] Natural's Not In It [0:15]
5. Thievery Corporation - [The Mirror Conspiracy #08] Samba Tranquille [0:15]
6. Tindersticks - [Tindersticks II #13] She's Gone [0:18]
7. Ween - [Voodoo Lady #04] Vallejo [0:20]
8. Yann Tiersen - [Le Phare #10] Les Jours Heureux [0:20]

If you encounter problems downloading one of these samples, feel free to contact me.

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Sebastian Mares
post Mar 28 2005, 17:04
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Some more from my side...

"Sebastian" is a pretty dynamic song with a symphony orchestra in the background.
"When a Blind Man Cries" has a sharp percussion at the beginning.

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Sebastian Mares
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Another one which suffers from ringing.


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post Mar 31 2005, 13:17
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I'd like to have a very tonal sample included in the test. Something without any attack: wind instrument, organ, string (violin, cello, gamba). It might appear as very easy to encode, but most lossy encoders have severe problems with this kind of signal. I have a good one. It's a violin, playing alone, with a tiny guitar (or theorbo) in background. Very nice recording (accoustic), natural.


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Another sample, on the opposite, good revelator for encoders suffering from pre-echo issues. 'Exotic' drums and wind instrument, played by an interesting brazilian ensemble (UAKTI). Could advantage VBR encoder:
ftp://ftp2.foobar2000.net/foobar/Purus_River.wv
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QUOTE (guruboolez @ Mar 31 2005, 01:17 PM)

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Sebastian Mares
post Mar 31 2005, 13:35
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Thanks for the samples people, I downloaded most of them already and am in the process of sorting them. smile.gif


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QUOTE (Sebastian Mares @ Mar 31 2005, 06:35 AM)
Thanks for the samples people, I downloaded most of them already and am in the process of sorting them. smile.gif
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Maybe, I am uploading this sample late; but, I think that is important, because he is very difficult to many CBR 128 mp3s encoders; he is very easy to ABX and produce serious audible flanging (in HIGH frequencies); Audioactive and Lame in 128 CBR are in the same situation.

Attached File  eric_clapton.flac ( 2.75MB ) Number of downloads: 335
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post Apr 1 2005, 18:46
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Sample 1: Felicidade - Suba - A beginner's guide to world music, CD3
Piano and electronics intro with vocals

Sample 2: Elizabeth on the bathroom floor - Eels - Electroshock Blues
Soft guitar intro
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Attached File  Felicidade.flac ( 3.09MB ) Number of downloads: 195
Attached File  Elizabeth.flac ( 1.95MB ) Number of downloads: 197
 
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Sebastian Mares
post Apr 5 2005, 08:44
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Can anyone with "One Night In Bangkok" (from "Murray Head") post the portion 3:20 - 3:40? I onlyhave the MP3.

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post Apr 5 2005, 09:46
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I propose my old sample smile.gif I submitted for the latest AAC listening test
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It's from a live concert.


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I propose this short sample (only 13 seconds), I have no idea what kind of genre it belongs to, and I also don´t exactly why I propose it, but I personaly like it and for me it´s more or less easy to ABX it at 128kbps in the most formats/encoders.
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post Apr 5 2005, 14:28
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If you are still interesting, I've upload some samples here before. I use these for my own ABX tests and it works for me very well.


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post Apr 5 2005, 18:24
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The first 10 seconds of Covenant - Bullet would be good, too, but sadly I don't have lossless version. dry.gif
Here is the mp3 (lame 3.90, cbr 256, JS).
Attached File  Covenant_Northern_Light_03_Bullet.mp3 ( 311.96K ) Number of downloads: 430


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I think Sebastian has enough samples now - see here.

We don't wanna overload him!


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post Apr 6 2005, 21:33
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QUOTE (jaybeee @ Apr 5 2005, 08:25 PM)
I think Sebastian has enough samples now - see here.

We don't wanna overload him!
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Yep, I think I have enough now. I would still be thankful if someone could post that portion of "One Night In Bagkok", though. smile.gif


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