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3.90.3 versus 3.96.1, ...it's not what it seems
earphiler
post Mar 6 2005, 05:05
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Take the two LAME versions: 3.90.3 and 3.96.1

Now I'm not going to ask which has been more tested -- the answer is simple. However, I would like to know why you personally choose 3.90.3 or 3.96.1

To me, it makes no difference but I grabbed 3.96.1, I'm too lazy to switch back, no problems here, I'm not too paranoid, and newer just sounds cooler (not to say its better).

Others? I know this thread sounds rather peculiar laugh.gif
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LoFiYo
post Mar 8 2005, 06:31
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I use both for different purposes.

I understand that a lot of people use version 3.96.1 for one of the following reasons:

1) other people say it's good
2) they can't tell the difference (even with critical samples)
3) it's faster
4) they blind-tested 3.96.1 (or whatever the latest stable version) and found it better than 3.90.3
5) it's the latest stable version
6) other

If people want to change the recommended version for the reason 1) or 2) or 3), I don't think that's a good enough reason. That's lowering our standards. Rather, I would love to see 3.90.3 overthrown for the reason 4), which is the hardest and the most time-consuming (but true to the original HA principles) option.

5) seems like a tricky one. From the developers' standpoint, this is the way to go, and they have no reason not to recommend the latest stable version. But since HA is a separate entity from the LAME project, it should ideally hold onto its own standard (QA) that it's founded upon.

I think a compromise (copout) might be to recommend the latest stable version, and move 3.90.3 aside to a Legacy status (or an alternative recommendation) - something that we can fall back on if we want to, and to encourage users to report any quality problems. Or, do the right thing and test the hell out of the latest stable version (or the lastest alpha) in order to overthrow 3.90.3. But who would have the time and energy to volunteer except Guru?

Only my 2c.
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- earphiler   3.90.3 versus 3.96.1   Mar 6 2005, 05:05
- - smz   sounds like violating TOS#8, in this form...   Mar 6 2005, 05:08
- - earphiler   this isn't violation of #8 as stated -- 8. A...   Mar 6 2005, 05:14
- - smz   QUOTE (earphiler @ Mar 6 2005, 05:05 AM)... a...   Mar 6 2005, 05:23
- - rjamorim   3.96.1. 3.90.3 is effete.   Mar 6 2005, 06:09
|- - p0wder   QUOTE (rjamorim @ Mar 5 2005, 10:09 PM)3.96.1...   Mar 6 2005, 08:24
|- - boojum   QUOTE (rjamorim @ Mar 5 2005, 09:09 PM)3.96.1...   Mar 6 2005, 08:50
|- - AtaqueEG   QUOTE (rjamorim @ Mar 5 2005, 11:09 PM)3.96.1...   Mar 6 2005, 21:15
||- - Turing   QUOTE (AtaqueEG @ Mar 6 2005, 10:15 PM)QUOTE ...   Mar 6 2005, 21:48
|- - music_man_mpc   QUOTE (rjamorim @ Mar 5 2005, 09:09 PM)3.96.1...   Mar 7 2005, 05:09
- - earphiler   QUOTE (rjamorim @ Mar 6 2005, 12:09 AM)3.96.1...   Mar 6 2005, 06:14
- - linus   3.96.1   Mar 6 2005, 08:50
- - Teqnilogik   3.96.1 here because its faster and there is no qua...   Mar 6 2005, 08:52
|- - Acid Orange Juice   QUOTE (Teqnilogik @ Mar 6 2005, 01:52 AM)3.96...   Mar 6 2005, 21:27
- - VCSkier   wow! im suprised. ive been using 3.90.3, and...   Mar 6 2005, 11:01
|- - Turing   QUOTE (VCSkier @ Mar 6 2005, 12:01 PM)wow...   Mar 6 2005, 11:42
|- - Lyx   QUOTE (VCSkier @ Mar 6 2005, 12:01 PM)wow...   Mar 6 2005, 20:44
|- - Turing   QUOTE (Lyx @ Mar 6 2005, 09:44 PM)QUOTE (VCSk...   Mar 6 2005, 21:36
- - LadFromDownUnder   I switched from 3.90.3 to 3.96.1 for a bit, and no...   Mar 6 2005, 11:46
|- - Turing   QUOTE (LadFromDownUnder @ Mar 6 2005, 12:46 P...   Mar 6 2005, 11:48
|- - LadFromDownUnder   QUOTE (Turing @ Mar 6 2005, 11:48 PM)QUOTE (L...   Mar 6 2005, 11:55
- - Jojo   another vote for LAME 3.96.1 . Overall, lower bitr...   Mar 6 2005, 20:26
- - Madrigal   3.96.1 -V1 --scale x.xxxx (as calculated by WaveGa...   Mar 6 2005, 22:45
|- - AtaqueEG   QUOTE (Madrigal @ Mar 6 2005, 03:45 PM)3.96.1...   Mar 6 2005, 23:07
- - Megaman   From http://dictionary.reference.com effete ...   Mar 6 2005, 23:06
- - earphiler   I have to say I'm surprised. I would've th...   Mar 7 2005, 00:45
- - WarChild   Right now 3.97a7 it's faster and have noticed ...   Mar 7 2005, 00:54
- - westgroveg   Thanks to the wonderful dev0 we have a 3.90.3 vs. ...   Mar 7 2005, 01:19
|- - smz   QUOTE (westgroveg @ Mar 7 2005, 01:19 AM)Than...   Mar 7 2005, 01:25
|- - timcupery   QUOTE (westgroveg @ Mar 6 2[I)005, 07:19 PM] ...   Mar 10 2005, 22:23
- - Jebus   Been using 3.96.1 to encode about 50% of my librar...   Mar 7 2005, 01:48
- - kindofblue   Call me an unreconstructed, hidebound traditionali...   Mar 7 2005, 02:50
|- - AtaqueEG   QUOTE (kindofblue @ Mar 6 2005, 07:50 PM)Call...   Mar 7 2005, 04:02
- - DreamTactix291   I use 3.96.1 when I need to make mp3s because I ho...   Mar 7 2005, 05:19
- - Synthetic Soul   I use 3.96.1 -V5 --athaa-sensitivity 1, as per mus...   Mar 7 2005, 09:54
- - Lev   QUOTE I postulate that Roberto invokes a thesaurus...   Mar 7 2005, 11:40
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (Lev @ Mar 7 2005, 11:40 AM)This discus...   Mar 7 2005, 11:47
||- - rjamorim   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Mar 7 2005, 07:47 AM)The ...   Mar 7 2005, 16:22
|- - Mac   QUOTE (Lev @ Mar 7 2005, 10:40 AM)QUOTE I pos...   Mar 9 2005, 19:50
- - VCSkier   as said earlier, get a poll for perfered lame enco...   Mar 7 2005, 17:50
- - Turing   I understand why HA can only recommend 3.90.3 beca...   Mar 7 2005, 17:56
- - freakngoat   3.96.1 -V1 For me, best compromise between qualit...   Mar 7 2005, 20:15
- - Lyx   Polls - suprisingly - only show whats popular. It ...   Mar 7 2005, 20:27
- - Synthetic Soul   QUOTE (Lyx @ Mar 7 2005, 07:27 PM)Polls - sup...   Mar 7 2005, 20:48
|- - Polar   Most of you will have noticed by now, but I'd ...   Mar 8 2005, 01:31
|- - Lyx   QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ Mar 7 2005, 09:48 PM)...   Mar 8 2005, 14:50
- - kindofblue   QUOTE (AtaqueEG @ Mar 6 2005, 07:02 PM)What w...   Mar 8 2005, 03:22
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (kindofblue @ Mar 8 2005, 03:22 AM)I...   Mar 8 2005, 08:11
- - LoFiYo   I use both for different purposes. I understand t...   Mar 8 2005, 06:31
- - Gabriel   QUOTE But since HA is a separate entity from the L...   Mar 8 2005, 09:20
|- - Ollie   QUOTE (Gabriel @ Mar 8 2005, 06:20 PM)But let...   Mar 12 2005, 11:53
- - kindofblue   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Mar 7 2005, 11:11 PM)QUOT...   Mar 8 2005, 09:40
- - schonenberg   I'm no programmer, but could Lame 3.90.3 be fu...   Mar 8 2005, 13:30
- - Gabriel   QUOTE I'm no programmer, but could Lame 3.90.3...   Mar 8 2005, 13:33
- - Synthetic Soul   @Lyx Thanks for the comprehensive reply. I was u...   Mar 8 2005, 15:15
- - john33   Well, just to upset everybody(!! ), I ten...   Mar 8 2005, 15:22
|- - OldSkoOL   QUOTE (john33 @ Mar 8 2005, 08:22 AM)I tend t...   Mar 8 2005, 17:45
- - schuberth   One more vote for 3.90.3. Yes I'm interested i...   Mar 8 2005, 21:29
|- - larswes   I use Lame 3.96.1 @ -V 4 For me, that's perfec...   Mar 9 2005, 12:13
- - Yaztromo   When I do use MP3. I use 3.90.3. Because I only ev...   Mar 10 2005, 23:15
|- - Jojo   QUOTE (Yaztromo @ Mar 10 2005, 02:15 PM)When ...   Mar 12 2005, 21:29
|- - AtaqueEG   QUOTE (Yaztromo @ Mar 10 2005, 04:15 PM)From ...   Mar 13 2005, 05:44
- - miscellanea   QUOTE (john33 @ Mar 8 2005, 11:22 PM)Well, ju...   Mar 12 2005, 11:24
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (miscellanea @ Mar 12 2005, 11:24 AM)Th...   Mar 12 2005, 11:27
- - miscellanea   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Mar 12 2005, 07:27 PM)Wha...   Mar 12 2005, 13:10
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (miscellanea @ Mar 12 2005, 01:10 PM)Ye...   Mar 13 2005, 14:35
- - k.eight.a   QUOTE (rjamorim @ Mar 5 2005, 09:09 PM)3.96.1...   Apr 9 2005, 10:35
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (k.eight.a @ Apr 9 2005, 10:35 AM)QUOTE...   Apr 9 2005, 10:43
||- - evereux   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Apr 9 2005, 09:43 AM)QUOT...   Apr 9 2005, 11:09
||- - k.eight.a   Unfortunately, when I was posting my first post to...   Apr 9 2005, 11:46
|- - LadFromDownUnder   QUOTE (k.eight.a @ Apr 9 2005, 10:35 PM)QUOTE...   Apr 9 2005, 12:25
|- - VCSkier   QUOTE (LadFromDownUnder @ Apr 9 2005, 07:25 A...   Apr 9 2005, 13:45
- - odious malefactor   ef·fete Pronunciation: e-'fEt, i- Function: a...   Apr 9 2005, 11:51
- - dev0   3.97 will become the new recommended version once ...   Apr 9 2005, 14:36


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