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post Jan 26 2005, 07:19
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This guide is now becoming out of date, but should still give a very good start. I have not personally used EAC since some time mid-07. I now strongly suggest using dBpoweramp Reference. Note, EAC is free, dBpoweramp is not, plus to get the real benefits you need the better (ie more expensive package - Reference, not powerpack). However, dBpoweramp outperforms EAC in secure ripping on drives with C2 handling (basically most modern drives), being both faster and more reliable. In my experience dBpoweramp is also more stable than EAC. dBpoweramp is also being actively developed and updated. Spoon, its developer, is an active member here at HA. dBpoweramp is much easier to set up and configure, and features the best meta-data system available - PerfectMeta! A guide is available dBpoweramp FLAC guide


First, install EAC V0.95, Accurate Rip and configure with a key disk, and FLAC

EAC Options:

Extraction Tab
[X] Fill up missing offset samples with silence *Optional. For drives that overread lead in/out this is not needed.*
[ ] No use of null samples for CRC calculations *Doesnt change audio*
[X] Synchronize between tracks
[ ] Delete leading and trailing silent blocks
[X] Skip track extraction on read or sync errors (wont affect rip, but I check yes for next 3)
[X] Skip track extraction after duration longer than X times realtime
[X] After each 30 minutes of extraction, cool down the drive for 5 mins
[X] Lock drive tray during extraction
Extraction and compression priority: Normal
Error recovery quality: Medium **this is a change from my previous recommendation. This will decrease the number of error bars from 5 to 3. I have never had a rip go past 3 bars (really usually only 2 at most) and have an error free rip. Save the time. Plus its easier on your drive.

General Tab
doesnt matter for ripping.

Tools Tab
[X] Retrieve UPC/ISRC codes in CUE sheet generation
[X] Use CD-Text information in CUE sheet generation
[ ] Create '.m3u' playlist on extraction - **user option
[X] Automatically write status report on extraction
[X] On extraction, start external compressors queued in the background [1] - **user option.
[X] Do not open external compressor window - **user option
[X] Submit drive features after detection
[ ] Activate beginner mode, disable all advanced features

Normalization Tab
NOT CHECKED!!!

Filename Tab
Naming Scheme: %A - %C - %N - %T (or as you prefer, check EAC's FAQ.txt)
Various Artists: %C - %N - %A - %T (see above)

Catalog Tab
Not important

Directories Tab
**user option.

Write Tab
Nothing to do with extraction here

Interface Tab
Not so important, you can use the Native one



Drive Options


Extraction Method Tab
Secure Mode (after "detect read features" option is used, with appropriate settings)
**It is also reasonable to use Burst Mode if you always use Shift-F6 (Test & Copy). It has been argued that this is more secure then secure mode and its tends to be faster. Burst mode alone (without Test & Copy) is not secure!
[X] Drive caches audio data (clears the drive cache)
[ ] Drive is capable of C2

Drive Tab
Autodetect for drive read command
[ ] Big endian
[ ] Swap channels
[X] Spin up before extraction

Offset / Speed Tab
Offset locked by AccurateRip
Overread into lead-in and lead-out data (You will need to test this one on a disc, if you get a read sync error on the first or last track of a new CD your drive cant overread and the option should be unchecked - this will mean that you loose the number of samples equal to your drive offeset on either the first or last song, the only solution is a different drive)
[X] Allow speed reduction during extraction
[X] CD-Text Read capable drive

Gap Detection Tab
Gap/Index retreval method: per drive setting (start with method A or B)
Detection Accuracy: Secure (some prefer to use accurate)


Compression Options

External Compression Tab
[X] Use external compression
User defined encoder
Use file extension: .flac
Program including path: -browse and select flac.exe-
Additional Command Line Options:
-6 -V -T "artist=%a" -T "title=%t" -T "album=%g" -T "date=%y" -T "tracknumber=%n" -T "genre=%m" -T comment="%e" -T "comment=EAC (Secure Mode)" %s
Bitrate: Doesn't matter
[X] Delete WAV after compression
[ ] Use CRC check
[ ] Add ID3 tag
[X] Check for external compression return code

Offset Tab
[ ] Use offset detection for encoding and decoding Do NOT check this as it will add gaps to gapless music

When ripping the tracks, I suggest using Shift-F6 (test & copy) to decrease the chance of having a bad rip go undetected. The CRCs should match for the T&C, if they don't there is a problem.

You may want to look for a drive that can overread into the lead in and lead out. You will need to get this feature to get 100% perfect copies of CDs, though you probably wont notice if you dont have it. A list of drive features can be found here:
DAE Drive Feature Database - look for green in the overread column. The smaller the read offset the better too.

Plextors are almost a universally good choice. I strongly suggest investing in a Plextor since you will be archiving your CD collection. Do it once and do it right. In addition, there is a switch available that works for most Plextor drives that disables the drives cache. This gives burst mode speeds (often >30x) in secure mode. Search the forum for the -USEFUA switch if you have a plextor drive.

Edit: Removed broken links.

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westgroveg
post Jan 28 2005, 11:52
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QUOTE
Filename Tab
Naming Scheme: %N - %T
Various Artists: %C - %N - %A - %T

Why do you suggest to include the CD title with various artists albums & not with single artist albums?
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post Jan 28 2005, 20:23
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encoding to -5 vs -8, on most modern computers will see little difference in encoding time. Plus encoding is a 1 time thing, so its my opinion that a little space savings is worth it. That being said, -5 is perfectly acceptable

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QUOTE (Eli @ Jan 28 2005, 15:23) *
encoding to -5 vs -8, on most modern computers will see little difference in encoding time. Plus encoding is a 1 time thing, so its my opinion that a little space savings is worth it. That being said, -5 is perfectly acceptable


That said, -5 is totally unacceptable. if you are too lazy to wait the almost unnoticable time to have smaller files that will take less disk space on your hard drive and/or DAP then don't even bother in the first place.
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QUOTE (JWolf @ Aug 10 2006, 08:43) *
QUOTE (Eli @ Jan 28 2005, 15:23) *

encoding to -5 vs -8, on most modern computers will see little difference in encoding time. Plus encoding is a 1 time thing, so its my opinion that a little space savings is worth it. That being said, -5 is perfectly acceptable


That said, -5 is totally unacceptable. if you are too lazy to wait the almost unnoticable time to have smaller files that will take less disk space on your hard drive and/or DAP then don't even bother in the first place.


I've observed different benchmaks. The difference between -5 and -8 speed is tremendous.

Are you guys using special optimized compiled builds of FLAC? Specific CPUs?

On a IBM ThinkPad laptop, I see the following throughputs for FLAC (converting 465 gigabytes worth of WAVs -- about 850 CDs):
  • flac -1 : 8.7 megabytes/sec processed WAVs (14.7 hours total to encode)
  • flac -5 : 6.3 megabytes/sec processed WAVs (20.3 hours total to encode)
  • flac -8 : 1.7 megabytes/sec processed WAVs (73 hours total to encode)




I get slightly faster results on Intel D865PERL 3.2GHz and Intel D975XBX D940 3.2GHz --- but the performance ratio between -5 and -8 stay the same. I don't have AMD processors to compare to. I also don't think the new Core 2 Duo procs will change the ratio of performance between -5 and -8 either.

So the difference between -5 (less than a day to encode 850 CDs) vs -8 (more than 3 days to encode) is more than 2 days! Waiting 49 extra hours for number crunching seems pretty significant to me. But I guess it's all relative.

So what's your threshold for "almost unnoticable" ? unsure.gif
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- Eli   Eli's Suggested EAC settings for FLAC   Jan 26 2005, 07:19
- - Tomcat   About used commandline options: Why -8? If we...   Jan 28 2005, 11:24
|- - R.A.F.   QUOTE (Tomcat @ Jan 28 2005, 12:24) About...   Aug 20 2006, 05:21
- - westgroveg   QUOTE Filename Tab Naming Scheme: %N - %T Various ...   Jan 28 2005, 11:52
|- - Eli   encoding to -5 vs -8, on most modern computers wil...   Jan 28 2005, 20:23
|- - westgroveg   QUOTE (Eli @ Jan 29 2005, 07:23 AM)QUOTE (wes...   Jan 31 2005, 06:23
||- - Eli   oops, your right. Fixed   Jan 31 2005, 07:18
|- - JWolf   QUOTE (Eli @ Jan 28 2005, 15:23) encoding...   Aug 10 2006, 14:43
|- - wylistener   QUOTE (JWolf @ Aug 10 2006, 08:43) QUOTE ...   Aug 10 2006, 16:39
|- - Eli   My experience is not based on such large scale enc...   Aug 10 2006, 17:25
|- - wylistener   QUOTE (Eli @ Aug 10 2006, 11:25) My exper...   Aug 10 2006, 17:37
- - PachmanP   QUOTE (Tomcat @ Jan 28 2005, 06:24 AM)About u...   Jan 28 2005, 19:32
- - darky   QUOTE (Eli @ Jan 26 2005, 08:19 AM)First, ins...   Jan 28 2005, 21:13
- - Tomcat   Because I'm working at time the flac is compre...   Jan 31 2005, 05:51
- - user   and drives, which don't have accurate stream ?...   Jan 31 2005, 13:25
- - westgroveg   (user) QUOTE and drives, which don't have accu...   Jan 31 2005, 13:36
|- - Eli   QUOTE (westgroveg @ Jan 31 2005, 07:36 AM)Fol...   Jul 31 2005, 14:49
|- - Calufraxis   QUOTE I personally am divided between: Artist/Alb...   Jul 31 2005, 18:03
- - Martin H   My ideal naming scheme : Artist/(Year) Album/nn. ...   Aug 1 2005, 03:32
- - clintb   QUOTE (Calufraxis @ Jul 31 2005, 11:03 AM)QUO...   Aug 1 2005, 15:25
|- - Martin H   QUOTE (clintb @ Aug 1 2005, 04:25 PM)Easily s...   Aug 2 2005, 02:07
- - user   Hi Martin, very good summary, why I prefer rippin...   Aug 4 2005, 13:26
|- - TCM   QUOTE [ ]Fill up missing offset samples with silen...   Aug 4 2005, 17:37
|- - Mechannibal   QUOTE [ ]Fill up missing offset samples with silen...   Aug 4 2005, 18:43
||- - TCM   QUOTE (Mechannibal @ Aug 4 2005, 07:43 PM)In ...   Aug 4 2005, 19:13
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|- - lmpine   QUOTE (MarkK @ Aug 4 2005, 04:12 PM)QUOTE (lm...   Aug 4 2005, 21:21
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|- - TCM   from what i understand, the "more sophisticat...   Aug 4 2005, 22:04
|- - Mechannibal   QUOTE (TCM @ Aug 4 2005, 09:04 PM)from what i...   Aug 4 2005, 22:47
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|- - Martin H   QUOTE (lmpine @ Sep 23 2005, 04:29 AM)I assum...   Sep 23 2005, 03:48
|- - lmpine   QUOTE (Martin H @ Sep 22 2005, 10:48 PM)QUOTE...   Sep 23 2005, 04:00
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- - Eli   Only a matching CRC in EAC or a match in AccurateR...   Sep 24 2005, 13:14
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|- - greynol   QUOTE (Bourne @ Aug 18 2006, 19:39) #1 - ...   Aug 19 2006, 18:04
- - Eli   There is a difference between getting a perfect ri...   Aug 19 2006, 19:51
- - Bourne   let me see if I understood this... Not even Secur...   Aug 19 2006, 22:05
|- - greynol   I use Test & Copy in burst mode or in secure m...   Aug 19 2006, 23:20
|- - Eli   QUOTE (greynol @ Aug 19 2006, 18:20) What...   Aug 20 2006, 00:09
|- - greynol   QUOTE (Eli @ Aug 19 2006, 16:09) This is ...   Aug 20 2006, 00:57
|- - Eli   greynol, I think we are saying the same thing. I b...   Aug 20 2006, 03:00
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|- - Eli   QUOTE (unmake @ Aug 20 2006, 01:45) Quick...   Aug 20 2006, 14:28
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|- - Eli   QUOTE (MusX @ Sep 7 2006, 04:37) QUOTE Dr...   Sep 11 2006, 23:08
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