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Any listening test Stereo vs Joint stereo in mp3?
crazyman
post Jan 14 2005, 14:46
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Hi all,

in many discussions I read about mp3 via Lame encoder the result is that the best solution is joint stereo. I believe in that as the developers who I highly esteem say so. But is this statement supported also by more independent listening tests? Especially I would be interested in comparison between --preset standard (joint stereo) and dtto with stereo mode.

Can the result in general depend also on the Lame version? From the tests I could read usually still the old good Lame 3.90.3 comes out as the winner.

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Crazyman
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Gabriel
post Jan 24 2005, 20:41
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but the broadcasters have reportedly asked for this change so they can move stations down to 112kbps mp2 joint stereo.

This will be a good example related to "things to not do"
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- crazyman   Any listening test Stereo vs Joint stereo in mp3?   Jan 14 2005, 14:46
- - beto   This makes no sense, since joint stereo is just a ...   Jan 14 2005, 14:51
|- - mithrandir   QUOTE (beto @ Jan 14 2005, 08:51 AM)This make...   Jan 14 2005, 16:38
|- - Otto42   QUOTE (mithrandir @ Jan 14 2005, 09:38 AM)No,...   Jan 14 2005, 16:50
|- - dev0   QUOTE (mithrandir @ Jan 14 2005, 04:38 PM)No,...   Jan 14 2005, 18:42
|- - Mark7   QUOTE (dev0 @ Jan 14 2005, 09:42 AM)QUOTE (mi...   Jan 14 2005, 19:04
|- - mithrandir   QUOTE (dev0 @ Jan 14 2005, 12:42 PM)QUOTE (mi...   Jan 14 2005, 22:44
|- - Jojo   QUOTE (mithrandir @ Jan 14 2005, 01:44 PM)If ...   Jan 15 2005, 01:49
|- - Busemann   QUOTE (Jojo @ Jan 14 2005, 04:49 PM)QUOTE (mi...   Jan 15 2005, 01:55
|- - Jojo   QUOTE (Busemann @ Jan 14 2005, 04:55 PM)QUOTE...   Jan 15 2005, 02:03
- - SirGrey   >>No, joint stereo is lossy. Wrong. joint-st...   Jan 14 2005, 16:48
- - SirGrey   Addenium: Lots of the confusion goes from Fhg. The...   Jan 14 2005, 16:53
- - Gray_Wolf   This is incredible Many people in present mome...   Jan 14 2005, 17:10
|- - crazyman   QUOTE (Gray_Wolf @ Jan 14 2005, 08:10 AM)This...   Jan 19 2005, 09:30
|- - Busemann   QUOTE (crazyman @ Jan 19 2005, 12:30 AM)Quite...   Jan 19 2005, 11:44
|- - crazyman   QUOTE (Busemann @ Jan 19 2005, 02:44 AM)QUOTE...   Jan 20 2005, 11:29
- - Jojo   The bottom line is that Joint-Stereo used in LAME ...   Jan 14 2005, 17:53
- - 2Bdecided   The stereo to joint stereo (i.e. L+R>M+S) trans...   Jan 17 2005, 16:34
|- - crazyman   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Jan 17 2005, 07:34 AM)The ...   Jan 19 2005, 09:25
|- - mithrandir   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Jan 17 2005, 10:34 AM)The ...   Jan 20 2005, 05:52
- - MugFunky   guh, why has this myth never been dispelled? it s...   Jan 20 2005, 06:29
|- - DreamTactix291   QUOTE (MugFunky @ Jan 19 2005, 11:29 PM)guh, ...   Jan 20 2005, 06:56
- - Gabriel   The M/S stereo transform itself is lossless. Howev...   Jan 20 2005, 09:13
- - 2Bdecided   Talk about things coming back to bite you... I...   Jan 21 2005, 12:10
- - Gabriel   Well, in your case intensity stereo is a good thin...   Jan 21 2005, 13:55
|- - Bogalvator   QUOTE (Gabriel @ Jan 21 2005, 04:55 AM)Well, ...   Jan 22 2005, 04:49
|- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (Gabriel @ Jan 21 2005, 12:55 PM)Well, ...   Jan 24 2005, 17:00
- - Gabriel   QUOTE but the broadcasters have reportedly asked f...   Jan 24 2005, 20:41
- - Ossie   Hi, I just want to check if the following staement...   May 21 2005, 10:57
- - Pio2001   It all depends if the psychoacoustic model can han...   May 21 2005, 13:01
- - Pio2001   Oh, that's not all, you'll have to force m...   May 21 2005, 13:07
- - mjkng2   hey this is an old article against Joint Stereo: ...   Aug 4 2006, 19:20
|- - Garf   QUOTE (mjkng2 @ Aug 4 2006, 20:20) hey t...   Aug 5 2006, 09:44
- - stephanV   It's not against JS... it just says that an al...   Aug 4 2006, 20:16
- - Pio2001   I've performed two joint stereo listening test...   Aug 4 2006, 22:52
- - haregoo   This sample is ABXable(16/16) even with -V 0 becau...   Aug 5 2006, 03:57
- - Gabriel   QUOTE (haregoo @ Aug 5 2006, 04:57) This ...   Aug 5 2006, 08:48
- - haregoo   QUOTE (Gabriel @ Aug 5 2006, 16:48) Regar...   Aug 5 2006, 14:14


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