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post May 3 2003, 15:16
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post Jan 29 2004, 22:47
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QUOTE (Lyx @ Jan 29 2004, 09:03 PM)
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1. then you cant set diff background colours per column, only per row (track). unless i set some extra item, %_column_index% or somthing, i might change it then


correct... however:
+ one string less >per column< to copy'n paste on sites like ampaa's formatting site
+ if the global string and such a global-color-string could be merged, ALL configuration stuff of a style could be centralized in the global string
- no column-specific background-colors possible

To me it seems, that the benefits are higher, than the disadvantages


You cant put column background colours into global string, it wouldnt work because global string is just combined with column string and then formatted and then sent for display on playlist. Global string is just something to put tag guessing code/colour setting code into so you dont have to put it in each string. (i.e. make it easier to edit)

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2. sel frame could if it was one string yes. background colour button does not relate to columns at all

It may not relate to columns - but would it be possible to set the background-color via the color-string/global string?
What is the point exactly? So you have to type hex codes instead of using colour picker? I would agree, however, it would be better in some cases to be able copy and paste that easily but not in most cases.


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3. what kind of diffrence would that make? apart from not making any sense.

What does this to relate to, exactly?
Surprisingly, it relates to the third bullet point you wrote. The word "Titleformatting" in that place in prefs by itself would not make any sense. I only wrote "spec" because i was trying to avoid the use of the word "string".

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Ok, taking a wild guess that you may not understand what all this should be good for, here's a comparision.
I understand perfectly what you are saying.

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stuff to copy'n paste and setup to insert a full foo_ui_columns style in the the options(in this example, our string has 5 columns):

as it is now:
01. paste global string
02. manually set background color
03. manually set selected-item color
04. paste column1 formatting string
05. paste column1 color-string
06. optionally past column1 sort string
07. paste column2 formatting string
08. paste column2 color-string
09. optionally past column2 sort string
10. paste column3 formatting string
11. paste column3 color-string
12. optionally past column3 sort string
13. paste column4 formatting string
14. paste column4 color-string
15. optionally past column4 sort string
16. paste column5 formatting string
17. paste column5 color-string
18. optionally past column5 sort string


if the color-string would be global, background and item-frame could be set in the color-string, and then, this color-string could be merged with the global string, it would be the following way:
01. paste global string
02. paste column1 formatting string
03. optionally past column1 sort string
04. paste column2 formatting string
05. optionally past column2 sort string
06. paste column3 formatting string
07. optionally past column3 sort string
08. paste column4 formatting string
09. optionally past column4 sort string
10. paste column5 formatting string
11. optionally past column5 sort string

I think saving 7 whole steps in the addition to having all central-config in the "general string" are worth sacrificing column-specific backgroundcolors.


Yes that's why I will add import/export tools later, which i have said already. Im not going to reduce functionality/hinder users making their own display config for no real reason. Not to mention I already said you wouldn't have to sacrifice the column specific colours, which btw I am definitely not getting rid of. Also your method of arguement is flawed. You cannot just say two points for and one against therefore overall its a good idea, without considering how important each point is and its implications. Not to mention some of your points are theoretical and invalid since its impossible to set column background colour in global string, or would at least work strangely. This is what I would say:

+ one less string per column if copying and pasting (- however, there will be import/export tools later)
- have to use silly $select to select background colours if per column, meaning lots of vertical scrolling in small box. (i.e. more hassle to set diff colours per column)
+ easier to set same colour for all columns

related: global string isnt currently combined with colour string, because it would cause wierd results if global string outputs something, but that will change too (extra option) and will alleviate the third point i just wrote.


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- musicmusic   [seemingly abandonware] Columns UI   May 3 2003, 15:16
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