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foo_dumb, experimental new modplugin, by Kode54
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post May 27 2013, 04:52
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Another track where playptmod sounds differently: syreen2.mod.

Note the discontinuity in the waveform at 42.84 sec:

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post Jun 1 2013, 01:05
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Well, you didn't say if playptmod does it wrong or correct, how am I supposed to know? Did you test the module in ProTracker 1.3B and 2.3D? (don't bother with 3.x, it's another story...)
Suspicious DC offset jumps are not too uncommon in modules, it happens if you suddenly switch to another sample while a previous sample is playing on the specific channel. Also keep in mind that playptmod emulates a quirk where a new (not same sample number) sample (with no note given) will not make the active sample change until it has played beyond LEN or LOOP_LEN one time. I aim to make playptmod as PT-accurate as I can, while not focusing too much on FastTracker 1 MODs and whatnot.

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post Jun 1 2013, 03:33
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I downloaded ProTracker Win32 from 16-bits.org and that's how it renders this place (yellow dotted line is still at 42.84 sec; and there are many other such places, this is just one of them):



and that's foo_dumb with playptmod disabled:




So I think that foo_dumb+playptmod play this file incorrectly.

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post Jun 1 2013, 05:42
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Just checked and my sample has the same discontinuities when played with playptmod enabled, which aren't present in the actual game or when playing the mod with UADE or with playptmod disabled in foo_dumb.
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post Jun 1 2013, 23:56
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It must be a bug in my version of playptmod.
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LordOfOrder
post Jun 7 2013, 03:48
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Hello, kode54! (Foobar2000 1.2.6 + DUMB 1.0.23):
1) The song proceeds after its termination. That is doesn't come to an end never. Occurs on IT and XM.
2) Upon multiple transitions on a time scale if, for example, to transfer at 1:00, and then to return at 00:30, there is any mess - the specified place doesn't correspond to the valid.
All this is watched on many different chiptunes.
P.S. When playing MOD the strange thing: Length of a song 0:52. However the song can will end and at 0:53, and 0:54 (if to look on a time scale) before transition to the beginning.

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post Jun 8 2013, 07:08
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There is an error message appearing after DUMB Module decoder 1.0.24 update on foobar v.1.2.6 installed on WinXP SP3.
Where can I download the previous version of DUMB Module decoder?
(in Reason: Not found this procedure)


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Robertina
post Jun 8 2013, 12:13
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Palm,

I assume that the installation of the MS Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package will fix that.

If it doesn't please tell me and I will upload foo_dumb v1.0.20 for you (older versions back to v0.9.8.04 are also available here).
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post Jun 8 2013, 12:19
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Unfortunately something broke with foo_dumb v1.0.24 which produces a lot of sound distortion with certain modules, similar to a constant high frequent clipping. Reverting back to foo_dumb v1.0.23 solves the issue for me.

QUOTE (Palm @ Jun 8 2013, 08:08) *
Where can I download the previous version of DUMB Module decoder?

Foo_DUMB Module decoder v1.0.23 can be acquired here at MODLAND.


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post Jun 8 2013, 13:45
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QUOTE (Robertina @ Jun 8 2013, 16:13) *
Palm,
I assume that the installation of the MS Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package will fix that.

I have installed MS Visual C++ Redistributable packags 2005 SP1, 2008 SP1, 2010 SP1, 2012.

QUOTE (deus-ex @ Jun 8 2013, 16:19) *
Foo_DUMB Module decoder v1.0.23 can be acquired here at MODLAND.

Thanks for the 1.0.23 version! Error message doesn't appear anymore. smile.gif

It is probably decoder developers' error.

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post Jun 8 2013, 20:44
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QUOTE (deus-ex @ Jun 8 2013, 13:19) *
Unfortunately something broke with foo_dumb v1.0.24 which produces a lot of sound distortion with certain modules, similar to a constant high frequent clipping. Reverting back to foo_dumb v1.0.23 solves the issue for me.

Got the same experience with foo_dumb v1.0.25 as described above, reverted back to v1.0.23.


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post Jun 8 2013, 21:32
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There is no redist issue with foo_dumb, or any of my components, as I use static runtime. The only issue was that 1.0.24 required Vista or newer due to a bug in MSVC 2012 v110_xp targeting pack.
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post Jun 9 2013, 05:04
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QUOTE (kode54 @ Jun 9 2013, 01:32) *
The only issue was that 1.0.24 required Vista or newer due to a bug in MSVC 2012 v110_xp targeting pack.

I have installed latest version of MS Visual C++ 2012 Redistributable (x86) Update 1 (v11.0.51106.1 from 26.11.2012) for XP.
What should I do? Keep foo_dumb v1.0.23 ?
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post Jun 9 2013, 05:28
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Are you sure 1.0.25 does not work? It may require that you have Service Pack 3 installed.
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post Jun 9 2013, 07:32
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QUOTE (kode54 @ Jun 9 2013, 09:28) *
Are you sure 1.0.25 does not work?

I was be afraid to install version 1.0.25 while reading deus-ex's message.
Just checked and problem has gone. Thanks! smile.gif
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post Jun 9 2013, 08:14
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deus-ex, care to name some modules that show the broken behavior? Perhaps that would get kode54's attention.
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post Jun 9 2013, 09:19
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Yeah, sure, no problem. Make sure to turn down the volume before checking.

ftp://modland.ziphoid.com/pub/modules/Imp...ow%20dreamer.it
ftp://modland.ziphoid.com/pub/modules/Imp...0not%20bossa.it
ftp://modland.ziphoid.com/pub/modules/Imp...ity%20street.it
ftp://modland.ziphoid.com/pub/modules/Imp...is/evergreen.it
ftp://modland.ziphoid.com/pub/modules/Imp...noli%20sigma.it
ftp://modland.ziphoid.com/pub/modules/Imp...er/Coda/earl.it
ftp://modland.ziphoid.com/pub/modules/Imp...ker/Coda/lee.it
ftp://modland.ziphoid.com/pub/modules/Imp...oda/mousedog.it
ftp://modland.ziphoid.com/pub/modules/Imp...on%20doilies.it
ftp://modland.ziphoid.com/pub/modules/Imp...r%20gardener.it


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post Jun 9 2013, 11:14
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Um, yeah. MSVC 2012 completely breaks my neat SSE intrinsic function based resonant filter function. I've disabled it.
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post Jun 9 2013, 13:11
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Yep, confirmed, that fixed it.


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post Jun 9 2013, 13:20
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1.0.26 also fixes playptmod problem mentioned in post #401.
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post Jun 9 2013, 16:19
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(Foobar2000 1.2.6 + DUMB 1.0.26).
Example: (http://amp.dascene.net/downmod.php?index=93603)
Very unpleasant effect is watched.
We include the song. We transfer closer by the end, for example at 2:40. Now we transfer at 1:00.
And now we try to transfer at 3:00. Voila: The song breaks and made a fresh start. There is on .xm, .it, .mod, can on any formats.
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post Jun 9 2013, 19:39
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QUOTE (LordOfOrder @ Jun 9 2013, 08:19) *
(Foobar2000 1.2.6 + DUMB 1.0.26).
Example: (http://amp.dascene.net/downmod.php?index=93603)
Very unpleasant effect is watched.
We include the song. We transfer closer by the end, for example at 2:40. Now we transfer at 1:00.
And now we try to transfer at 3:00. Voila: The song breaks and made a fresh start. There is on .xm, .it, .mod, can on any formats.

Fixed.
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post Jun 9 2013, 20:13
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QUOTE (kode54 @ Jun 9 2013, 06:14) *
Um, yeah. MSVC 2012 completely breaks my neat SSE intrinsic function based resonant filter function. I've disabled it.



ahh so that's why there was a msvcrt.dll issue... you were linking against a new version of the MS VC++ RT....?

I didn't know there was a new one..
since you have fixed it already I'll not bother posting my bug report. or I could include the Dependency walker files.. it notes a few missing files and Functions..
I have files to attach... but this forum doesn't seem to allow it....



QUOTE (kode54 @ Jun 8 2013, 16:32) *
There is no redist issue with foo_dumb, or any of my components, as I use static runtime. The only issue was that 1.0.24 required Vista or newer due to a bug in MSVC 2012 v110_xp targeting pack.

Static linking is sweet takes allot of head ache out of it.

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post Jun 11 2013, 12:58
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In the last foo_dumb versions the extremely unpleasant bug was sometimes shown: When viewing information on the module (Properties) Track Title was displayed only. All remaining fields remained empty even the ambassador of Tools - Reload Info. Decided so: Foobar2000 restarting. Then MP3 file start, and then already again chiptunes opening. Usually occurs in case of start or foobar2000 restarting.
P.S. I tried to delete all files from index-data - works not always.

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post Jun 11 2013, 20:07
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If you removed the tags, then all fields will be deleted in the internal database.
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