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What's your lossless codec of choice?
What's your lossless codec of choice?
What's your lossless codec of choice?
Apple Lossless [ 36 ] ** [5.03%]
FLAC [ 377 ] ** [52.73%]
La [ 4 ] ** [0.56%]
Monkey's Audio [ 130 ] ** [18.18%]
OptimFROG [ 7 ] ** [0.98%]
Shorten [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
TTA [ 8 ] ** [1.12%]
WavPack [ 106 ] ** [14.83%]
WMA Lossless [ 14 ] ** [1.96%]
other (please specify)/I'm not into lossless at all [ 33 ] ** [4.62%]
Total Votes: 950
  
Polar
post Aug 3 2004, 16:21
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It's been a busy year in lossless audio codec land wink.gif

So I thought it might be the right time to throw in another favourite codec poll, now that the lossy counterpart is into v2 and the last multi lossless codec poll is just a few days short of one year old. The latter included neither Apple Lossless, which has rapidly gained quite some popularity due to its support in iTunes, nor TTA.

My superficial impression tells me that OptimFROG, TTA, WavPack and WMA Lossless have also been gaining momentum ever since, perhaps at the expense of Bonk, LPAC, RK Audio, and others, which seem to have become obsolete and have therefore been omitted from the poll choices (although the board's 10 answers max has something to do with that as well). Feel free to mention LPAC or whatever you might still be using in a separate post below. Needless to say any other comments are most welcome.

Curious to know what the current balance of power between FLAC and Monkey's might be. Would Shorten still be able to keep a grip on a loyal share of users? How widely are OptimFROG and WavPack's hybrid modes being used? And what about rather obscure RealAudio Lossless?

In short: looking forward to your replies smile.gif

Edit: grammar.

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picmixer
post Aug 4 2004, 00:14
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Momentarily I am using Monkey's Audio standard.

Good file size and perfect internal cuesheet support with foobar2000 are what won me over.

Although I am currently thinking about switching to wavpack. It seems a very nice compromise between compression ratio and decoding speed for me. Also internal cue sheet support works just as well with foobar2000 thanks to Case. Furthermore I just somehow apperciate all the work Briant has put into this and was very impressed by the new 4.0 release.
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post Mar 26 2005, 03:57
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QUOTE (picmixer @ Aug 3 2004, 07:14 PM)
Momentarily I am using Monkey's Audio standard.

Good file size and perfect internal cuesheet support with foobar2000 are what won me over.

Although I am currently thinking about switching to wavpack.  It seems a very nice compromise between compression ratio and decoding speed for me.  Also internal cue sheet support works just as well with foobar2000 thanks to Case.  Furthermore I just somehow apperciate all the work Briant has put into this and was very impressed by the new 4.0 release.
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with his latest beta, you dont even need wapet for wavpack to support internal cue sheet now. wavpack is great. definately the best lossless for me.

edit: clarification

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- Polar   What's your lossless codec of choice?   Aug 3 2004, 16:21
- - Polar   BTW, I'm using primarily FLAC for playback and...   Aug 3 2004, 16:22
- - Slo Mo Snail   I voted the same as last year: FLAC mainly because...   Aug 3 2004, 16:29
- - krmathis   I prefer Apple Lossless! Because its supported...   Aug 3 2004, 16:30
- - guruboolez   Monkey's Audio "normal": more effici...   Aug 3 2004, 16:35
- - Sebastian Mares   Monkey's Audio Extra High   Aug 3 2004, 16:36
- - xmixahlx   i vote for flac simply because it has greater usab...   Aug 3 2004, 16:37
- - jth   FLAC for me ... although Wavpack 4 is also quite ...   Aug 3 2004, 16:39
- - karmakillernz   WavPack for me. I've used it for a while, and ...   Aug 3 2004, 16:48
- - Emanuel   Flac for its so easy to use, tag and transcode. I ...   Aug 3 2004, 16:55
- - evereux   Everything I rip gets backed up to Monkeys Audio -...   Aug 3 2004, 17:31
- - R2D2   FLAC and LPAC.....and when I have bought a 250gb+ ...   Aug 3 2004, 17:55
- - Derge   Same as evereaux for ripping, but I'm pretty s...   Aug 3 2004, 18:00
- - Polar   I'd just like to add (although I should maybe ...   Aug 3 2004, 18:12
- - rutra80   OptimFROG of course. It can be most efficient in t...   Aug 3 2004, 20:18
- - bugmenot   Monkey's Audio is going cross platform though:...   Aug 3 2004, 20:31
- - Krug_Stillo   I use Monkey's Audio and FLAC for specific alb...   Aug 3 2004, 21:35
|- - jcoalson   QUOTE (Krug_Stillo @ Aug 3 2004, 03:35 PM)but...   Aug 3 2004, 22:07
- - Krug_Stillo   QUOTE (jcoalson @ Aug 3 2004, 01:07 PM)I thou...   Aug 3 2004, 22:36
|- - jcoalson   ah, I see. I was referring to the decoding/playin...   Aug 3 2004, 23:01
|- - kjoonlee   QUOTE (Krug_Stillo @ Aug 4 2004, 06:36 AM)foo...   Aug 4 2004, 15:53
- - DreamTactix291   FLAC for several reasons Open source, which was a...   Aug 4 2004, 00:08
- - picmixer   Momentarily I am using Monkey's Audio standard...   Aug 4 2004, 00:14
|- - VCSkier   QUOTE (picmixer @ Aug 3 2004, 07:14 PM)Moment...   Mar 26 2005, 03:57
- - R2D2   Ok...why FLAC and LPAC....good decoding time, good...   Aug 4 2004, 15:47
- - kjoonlee   I use FLAC too, for its cross-platform support and...   Aug 4 2004, 15:55
|- - unfortunateson   FLAC.   Aug 6 2004, 00:58
- - damaki   Wavpack because I also use wavpack as an hybrid co...   Aug 4 2004, 17:25
- - danchr   Apple Lossless since it integrates nicely with iTu...   Aug 4 2004, 17:55
- - amn   WavPack. Because it offers good compression in ...   Aug 4 2004, 18:14
- - CSMR   WMA. I feel a bit more secure than with Monkey Aud...   Aug 6 2004, 00:44
- - khiloa   FLAC because as a few of you have said its open so...   Aug 6 2004, 19:34
- - outscape   i use flac for the most part but i will probably c...   Aug 6 2004, 19:52
|- - Polar   QUOTE (outscape @ Aug 6 2004, 18:52 UTC)i use...   Aug 9 2004, 07:18
- - LIF   I've been using Ape for 3+ years mainly becaus...   Aug 6 2004, 21:54
- - .halverhahn   FLAC to archive.   Aug 9 2004, 08:02
- - smack   LA - maximum compression for lossless archiving. ...   Aug 9 2004, 08:11
- - Polar   Perhaps it's time for some reflection. What...   Aug 10 2004, 11:15
|- - rjamorim   QUOTE (Polar @ Aug 10 2004, 07:15 AM)One of t...   Aug 10 2004, 16:20
||- - Polar   QUOTE (rjamorim @ Aug 10 2004, 15:20 UTC)Monk...   Aug 12 2004, 14:29
||- - rjamorim   QUOTE (Polar @ Aug 12 2004, 10:29 AM)It can...   Aug 12 2004, 23:42
||- - Polar   QUOTE (rjamorim @ Aug 12 2004, 22:42 UTC)As I...   Aug 13 2004, 08:18
||- - rjamorim   QUOTE (Polar @ Aug 13 2004, 04:18 AM)I object...   Aug 13 2004, 16:12
|- - jcoalson   QUOTE (Polar @ Aug 10 2004, 05:15 AM)[*]With ...   Aug 10 2004, 16:43
|- - Polar   QUOTE (jcoalson @ Aug 10 2004, 15:43 UTC)QUOT...   Aug 13 2004, 15:49
- - markanini   Maby I'm a bit late on giving a comment about ...   Aug 10 2004, 18:05
|- - Polar   QUOTE (markanini @ Aug 10 2004, 17:05 UTC)I d...   Aug 12 2004, 12:30
|- - Silverbolt   QUOTE (Polar @ Aug 12 2004, 03:30 AM)I don...   Aug 12 2004, 12:56
||- - Polar   QUOTE (Silverbolt @ Aug 12 2004, 11:56 UTC)QU...   Aug 12 2004, 13:04
|- - Omion   QUOTE (Polar @ Aug 12 2004, 04:30 AM)QUOTE (m...   Aug 13 2004, 05:07
|- - Polar   QUOTE (Omion @ Aug 13 2004, 04:07 UTC)QUOTE (...   Aug 13 2004, 09:13
|- - Omion   QUOTE (Polar @ Aug 13 2004, 01:13 AM)Edit: On...   Aug 13 2004, 19:06
|- - jcoalson   that is correct. all input being equal, the only ...   Aug 13 2004, 21:21
|- - Omion   QUOTE (jcoalson @ Aug 13 2004, 01:21 PM)but s...   Aug 13 2004, 21:38
|- - Polar   QUOTE (Omion @ Aug 13 2004, 18:06 UTC)I don...   Aug 14 2004, 10:21
- - atici   QUOTE (Polar @ Aug 12 2004, 08:29 AM)It does ...   Aug 13 2004, 05:49
- - blessingx   FLAC had been used on the Mac for some time. It wa...   Aug 13 2004, 07:03
- - RockFan   I use (and voted for) Monkey's, for the simple...   Aug 13 2004, 16:15
- - Polar   Still curious to know, Josh: any idea as to why Om...   Aug 14 2004, 23:06
|- - Omion   I'd like to know, too. BTW, I'm doing ano...   Aug 14 2004, 23:31
||- - Polar   Are you taking hard disk fragmentation into accoun...   Aug 14 2004, 23:41
|||- - Omion   QUOTE (Polar @ Aug 14 2004, 03:41 PM)Are you ...   Aug 15 2004, 02:02
||- - Polar   QUOTE (Omion @ Aug 14 2004, 22:31 UTC)I'm...   Aug 16 2004, 18:07
||- - Omion   I've got two albums done. That stupid "2-...   Aug 17 2004, 01:56
||- - Polar   QUOTE (Omion @ Aug 17 2004, 00:56 UTC)I'v...   Aug 17 2004, 08:00
||- - Omion   Yes, I'm doing 12 decodings per level. It take...   Aug 17 2004, 17:43
||- - Polar   QUOTE (Omion @ Aug 17 2004, 16:43 UTC)I'l...   Aug 20 2004, 09:01
||- - Omion   QUOTE (Polar @ Aug 20 2004, 01:01 AM)Some or ...   Aug 20 2004, 19:20
|- - jcoalson   QUOTE (Polar @ Aug 14 2004, 05:06 PM)Still cu...   Aug 15 2004, 21:42
- - alex_wheels   A bit in doubt between FLAC and Monkey's. FLA...   Aug 15 2004, 12:58
- - realmax   FlAC format sounds like a good lossess codec. But ...   Aug 17 2004, 05:04
- - Omion   Just ran three more tests last night, and I think ...   Aug 23 2004, 22:23
- - Grand Dizzy   From the response to this poll it seems like almos...   Oct 24 2004, 19:56
- - sehested   Many of the people in this forum prefers lossless ...   Oct 24 2004, 21:04
- - Grand Dizzy   Very interesting! Hmm... I just buy CDs, enco...   Oct 24 2004, 21:58
- - user   I switched (and voted for wv) to Wavpack 4.1 high ...   Nov 25 2004, 01:09
- - Ivegottheskill   What does the -SS setting do? I haven't heard ...   Nov 27 2004, 01:46
|- - Omion   QUOTE (Ivegottheskill @ Nov 26 2004, 05:46 PM...   Nov 27 2004, 03:54
- - Ivegottheskill   I use FLAC (good support and decompression times, ...   Nov 30 2004, 05:17
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (Ivegottheskill @ Nov 30 2004, 05:17 AM...   Nov 30 2004, 09:28
- - adamlau   WavPack 4.2 beta 3 using -hxm or -hb320xcm (hybrid...   Dec 1 2004, 03:28
- - Lokutus01   flac..... compression: 6 I like the format becaus...   Dec 2 2004, 18:16
- - Ray   I use FLAC, Monkey Audio and Wavpack Monkey Audio ...   Dec 13 2004, 11:14
|- - Polar   QUOTE (Ray @ Dec 13 2004, 10:14 UTC)Monkey Au...   Dec 13 2004, 11:51
|- - rjamorim   QUOTE (Polar @ Dec 13 2004, 07:51 AM)A questi...   Dec 13 2004, 13:42
- - adamin   FLAC. For me it's all about hardware compatib...   Dec 14 2004, 02:00
|- - jcrab66   Flac for me, used to be shn but i definitly like t...   Dec 15 2004, 16:59
- - Gallvs   I originally voted Monkey's Audio but now I...   Mar 26 2005, 13:02
- - unfortunateson   At the moment, my lossless codec of choice is WavP...   Mar 30 2005, 04:59
- - edekba   I've been using APE, becuz of hte compression ...   Aug 23 2005, 09:21
- - Involarius   FLAC. Nothing but FLAC. I've got the Monkey...   Oct 9 2005, 11:01
- - Julien   Wavpack for me, because it does not remove the RIF...   Oct 9 2005, 11:57
|- - Rain   QUOTE (Julien @ Oct 9 2005, 11:57 AM)Wavpack ...   Feb 13 2006, 23:23
- - weirving   I'm a FLAC-er, all the way. On my iPod, I just...   Feb 1 2006, 10:56
- - lossman   Flac all the way, Its open-source, incredibly fast...   Mar 8 2006, 09:35
- - Rasqual   I chose FLAC, because of the numerous platforms it...   Mar 11 2006, 00:39
|- - shadowking   QUOTE (Rasqual @ Mar 10 2006, 03:39 PM)I chos...   Mar 11 2006, 00:46
- - xequence   I have to say FLAC. As far as I know there really ...   Mar 11 2006, 01:56
- - lextune   It used to be FLAC, but I need to be able to embed...   Mar 15 2006, 02:51
- - LANjackal   Monkey's Audio @ Insane compression level for ...   Mar 15 2006, 07:42
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