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Busemann
post Jul 18 2004, 15:42
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Seems the 4th gen iPods will debut Monday July 19th..

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20 & 40 GB for $299 and $399 respectively.
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post Jul 19 2004, 15:15
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IMO, style is the only thing the iPod has going for it. Other players (e.g. Rio Karma) offer things like better battery life, gapless playback, more format support, linux support, etc. Unfortunately, the media (and the public I guess) are infatuated with the iPod without even realizing there are alternatives, let alone that the alternatives are better.

Steve Jobs could take a dump in an attractive acrylic box and there would be Apple fanboys lined up to buy it.


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post Jul 20 2004, 13:36
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QUOTE (phong @ Jul 19 2004, 11:15 PM)
IMO, style is the only thing the iPod has going for it.  Other players (e.g. Rio Karma) offer things like better battery life, gapless playback, more format support, linux support, etc.  Unfortunately, the media (and the public I guess) are infatuated with the iPod without even realizing there are alternatives, let alone that the alternatives are better.

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I agree the Rio Karma is very nice player. However I need a 40 GB player. Hopefully the Karma 2 comes in 20 GB and 40 GB capacities. So that it is in direct competition with Apple. However, apparently early reports of the Karma 2 say it is going to be smaller than the current Karma, so I don't know how it can be both smaller, and a 40 GB player.

Plus the iPod's support for LC-AAC is a plus. Rio's support for Vorbis is to be commended though. Ideally I will get a player that can hold all of my CDs, to do this I need great sounding files around 160K, so Vorbis, or AAC will be good at this, with the edge probably going to AAC.


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- Busemann   New iPods!   Jul 18 2004, 15:42
- - blessingx   http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5457434/site/newsweek/...   Jul 18 2004, 15:52
- - ShowsOn   Yeah, given Apple's exagerated battery capacit...   Jul 18 2004, 18:05
|- - Cygnus X1   QUOTE (ShowsOn @ Jul 18 2004, 12:05 PM)Yeah, ...   Jul 18 2004, 18:31
|- - AtaqueEG   I almost purchased a 20GB third-generation iPod ye...   Jul 18 2004, 18:51
- - mithrandir   Even with a $100 price drop, they are still b...   Jul 18 2004, 19:40
|- - Bongoboy   QUOTE (mithrandir @ Jul 18 2004, 07:40 PM)but...   Jul 18 2004, 22:42
- - Teqnilogik   QUOTE (mithrandir @ Jul 18 2004, 01:40 PM)but...   Jul 18 2004, 22:55
- - negritot   I just hope it's more scratch resistant than t...   Jul 19 2004, 05:18
- - NeoRenegade   QUOTE (Teqnilogik @ Jul 18 2004, 04:55 PM)QUO...   Jul 19 2004, 05:33
- - AtaqueEG   How about "better looking"? Or "eas...   Jul 19 2004, 05:46
- - svkelley   I have a 2nd Generation 20G iPod that I use every ...   Jul 19 2004, 06:20
- - QuantumKnot   Looks good. I especially like the slightly longer...   Jul 19 2004, 06:54
|- - ShowsOn   QUOTE (QuantumKnot @ Jul 19 2004, 02:54 PM)I ...   Jul 19 2004, 12:05
|- - QuantumKnot   QUOTE (ShowsOn @ Jul 19 2004, 09:05 PM)QUOTE ...   Jul 19 2004, 13:55
|- - ShowsOn   FrEaKy! I went back to the Apple Education sto...   Jul 19 2004, 15:00
|- - bidz   QUOTE (ShowsOn @ Jul 19 2004, 06:00 AM)I shou...   Jul 19 2004, 15:13
||- - ShowsOn   QUOTE (bidz @ Jul 19 2004, 11:13 PM)Apple Sto...   Jul 19 2004, 15:28
|- - QuantumKnot   QUOTE (ShowsOn @ Jul 20 2004, 12:00 AM)FrEaKy...   Jul 20 2004, 00:36
|- - robUx4   QUOTE (QuantumKnot @ Jul 20 2004, 12:36 AM)I ...   Jul 20 2004, 09:04
|- - rufu   QUOTE (robUx4 @ Jul 20 2004, 12:04 AM)QUOTE (...   Jul 20 2004, 09:19
|- - robUx4   QUOTE (rufu @ Jul 20 2004, 09:19 AM)Sorry, bu...   Jul 20 2004, 09:41
- - Polar   What I'm especially hoping for with this new i...   Jul 19 2004, 08:53
|- - spoon   I prefer the iPod mini, fits in your pocket easier...   Jul 19 2004, 09:46
|- - ShowsOn   QUOTE (Polar @ Jul 19 2004, 04:53 PM)What I...   Jul 19 2004, 12:11
|- - Polar   (off topic) QUOTE (ShowsOn @ Jul 19 2004, 01...   Jul 19 2004, 15:00
- - Rotellian   Its weird, i just dont listen to music like this. ...   Jul 19 2004, 09:58
- - StoneRoses   QUOTE (Cygnus X1 @ Jul 19 2004, 12:31 AM)do t...   Jul 19 2004, 10:43
- - AgentMil   That sounds pretty neat... but now I have to justi...   Jul 19 2004, 12:17
- - robUx4   Does any user here know if it's possible to pl...   Jul 19 2004, 14:33
|- - Althalus   QUOTE (robUx4 @ Jul 19 2004, 02:33 PM)Does an...   Jul 20 2004, 11:43
|- - prism_emf   QUOTE (Althalus @ Jul 20 2004, 01:43 PM)Btw, ...   Jul 20 2004, 12:25
|- - ShowsOn   QUOTE (prism_emf @ Jul 20 2004, 08:25 PM)My b...   Jul 20 2004, 13:31
|- - prism_emf   QUOTE (ShowsOn @ Jul 20 2004, 03:31 PM)Any id...   Jul 20 2004, 15:23
- - phong   IMO, style is the only thing the iPod has going fo...   Jul 19 2004, 15:15
|- - AtaqueEG   QUOTE (phong @ Jul 19 2004, 08:15 AM)IMO, sty...   Jul 19 2004, 16:38
|- - ShowsOn   QUOTE (phong @ Jul 19 2004, 11:15 PM)IMO, sty...   Jul 20 2004, 13:36
- - phong   Yes, it's true, the Karma reads lame tags to p...   Jul 19 2004, 18:17
- - StoneRoses   phong, You forgot to mention some important iPod...   Jul 20 2004, 07:55
|- - spoon   QUOTE (StoneRoses @ Jul 20 2004, 06:55 AM)pho...   Jul 20 2004, 09:34
|- - robUx4   QUOTE (spoon @ Jul 20 2004, 09:34 AM)Doesn...   Jul 20 2004, 09:43
- - rufu   Yep it's kind of rubbish that the new 4G iPods...   Jul 20 2004, 12:27
- - StoneRoses   QUOTE (spoon @ Jul 20 2004, 03:34 PM)Doesn...   Jul 20 2004, 15:57
- - ChangFest   QUOTE Actually, can even iTunes play mp3's gap...   Jul 20 2004, 17:13
|- - markgr   QUOTE (ChangFest @ Jul 20 2004, 11:13 AM)QUOT...   Jul 20 2004, 19:28
|- - mmortal03   QUOTE (markgr @ Jul 20 2004, 01:28 PM)QUOTE (...   Jul 20 2004, 20:15
|- - AtaqueEG   QUOTE Actually, iTunes does have a feature which m...   Jul 20 2004, 20:16
|- - Cygnus X1   QUOTE (AtaqueEG @ Jul 20 2004, 02:16 PM)Gaple...   Jul 20 2004, 20:45
|- - AtaqueEG   QUOTE iTunes can't even do that....even when u...   Jul 20 2004, 20:51
|- - markgr   QUOTE (AtaqueEG @ Jul 20 2004, 02:51 PM)This ...   Jul 21 2004, 14:37
|- - Chun-Yu   QUOTE (markgr @ Jul 21 2004, 08:37 AM)Well, a...   Jul 21 2004, 21:21
|- - guruboolez   QUOTE (Chun-Yu @ Jul 21 2004, 09:21 PM)T...   Jul 21 2004, 21:37
|- - Fuchal   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Jul 21 2004, 03:37 PM)QUO...   Jul 21 2004, 21:49
||- - guruboolez   QUOTE (Fuchal @ Jul 21 2004, 09:49 PM)Probabl...   Jul 21 2004, 22:06
||- - Fuchal   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Jul 21 2004, 04:06 PM)QUO...   Jul 22 2004, 05:56
|- - ChangFest   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Jul 21 2004, 12:37 PM)I c...   Jul 22 2004, 22:06
- - audioflex   Ive been having problems with my 20gb 3g one, i mi...   Jul 20 2004, 20:04
|- - AtaqueEG   QUOTE (audioflex @ Jul 20 2004, 01:04 PM)Ive ...   Jul 20 2004, 20:17
- - audioflex   See the problem is, when im walking with it and pl...   Jul 20 2004, 20:37
|- - AtaqueEG   QUOTE (audioflex @ Jul 20 2004, 01:37 PM)See ...   Jul 20 2004, 20:48
- - audioflex   QUOTE (AtaqueEG @ Jul 20 2004, 12:48 PM)If yo...   Jul 20 2004, 20:51
- - QuantumKnot   It's a shame that we have this 'sliding wi...   Jul 21 2004, 00:49
- - AtaqueEG   It is official now I must say it still looks inte...   Jul 21 2004, 04:45
- - jkonami   How's the amp and sound output of the 4G so fa...   Jul 21 2004, 07:04
|- - ChangFest   QUOTE (jkonami @ Jul 20 2004, 10:04 PM)How...   Jul 21 2004, 07:31
|- - jkonami   QUOTE (ChangFest @ Jul 21 2004, 01:31 AM)QUOT...   Jul 21 2004, 07:43
|- - markgr   QUOTE (ChangFest @ Jul 21 2004, 01:31 AM)If g...   Jul 21 2004, 14:49
||- - ShowsOn   I'm in the process of going to FLAC, thus maki...   Jul 21 2004, 17:35
||- - ChangFest   QUOTE (markgr @ Jul 21 2004, 05:49 AM)I am cu...   Jul 21 2004, 18:36
|- - loophole   QUOTE (ChangFest @ Jul 20 2004, 10:31 PM)QUOT...   Jul 21 2004, 22:44
|- - phong   QUOTE (loophole @ Jul 21 2004, 09:44 PM)The a...   Jul 22 2004, 04:43
- - Hias   Does anyone have further information an the ...   Jul 21 2004, 23:12
|- - negritot   QUOTE (Hias @ Jul 21 2004, 02:12 PM)Does anyo...   Jul 22 2004, 22:23
- - audioflex   I think the concept of mp3 players (in many people...   Jul 22 2004, 05:39
- - rtimmel   But you can change the extension from .m4a to .m4b...   Jul 22 2004, 22:53
- - QuantumKnot   My new 20 GB iPod arrived today. Damn nice looks...   Jul 30 2004, 13:56
- - markgr   I purchased a 40 GB 4G iPod this week and I love i...   Jul 30 2004, 16:27
- - rufu   Nothing but speculation about "hidden feature...   Jul 30 2004, 17:28
- - sven_Bent   dman hope the fix the big gaps/clicks between mp3...   Jul 30 2004, 18:25


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