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Busemann
post Jul 18 2004, 15:42
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Seems the 4th gen iPods will debut Monday July 19th..

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20 & 40 GB for $299 and $399 respectively.
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QuantumKnot
post Jul 19 2004, 06:54
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Looks good. I especially like the slightly longer battery life, which was one of the complaints I've read about it. They don't have the 15 GB version anymore. Hopefully the 20 GB isn't too expensive...I wonder what's the educational price. The 15 GB was AUD$403
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post Jul 19 2004, 12:05
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QUOTE (QuantumKnot @ Jul 19 2004, 02:54 PM)
I wonder what's the educational price.  The 15 GB was AUD$403
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If the Australian prices for the 4G models remain equated with the US prices for 3G models, then it looks like the education price for the 40GB 4G model will be AUD$540, which to me is much more reasonable than the $720 it is currently (only $79 saving over standard retail price). However who knows what the pricing structure will be. I reckon the AUD$399 asking price for the iPod mini is rather unrealistic. However I understand that people who get one are paying extra for the small size.


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post Jul 19 2004, 13:55
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QUOTE (ShowsOn @ Jul 19 2004, 09:05 PM)
QUOTE (QuantumKnot @ Jul 19 2004, 02:54 PM)
I wonder what's the educational price.  The 15 GB was AUD$403
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If the Australian prices for the 4G models remain equated with the US prices for 3G models, then it looks like the education price for the 40GB 4G model will be AUD$540, which to me is much more reasonable than the $720 it is currently (only $79 saving over standard retail price). However who knows what the pricing structure will be. I reckon the AUD$399 asking price for the iPod mini is rather unrealistic. However I understand that people who get one are paying extra for the small size.
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Cool. What do you think about the 20 GB 4G iPod? That's the one I'm considering as it is replacing the 15 GB?
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post Jul 19 2004, 15:00
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FrEaKy! I went back to the Apple Education store that I can access (For Flinders University S.A.) and it is now showing only two models, the 20 GB, and the 40 GB. Within the space of 3 hours or so the 15 GB model has been removed! Sadly the price is not quite as good as what I hoped, it is $584.10 for the 40 GB model (I speculated it would be $540), and $448.80 for the 20 GB model. It does not state that these are prices for the 4G models, instead it says "w/click wheel". I should point out that it only says the dock is included for the 40 GB model, NOT the 20 GB model, that may simply be wrong, I'm sure more info will come to light in the next few days. Neither models state that they come with a remote. I would've hoped the 40 GB version at least would come with the remote.

All prices are AUD$.

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post Jul 20 2004, 00:36
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QUOTE (ShowsOn @ Jul 20 2004, 12:00 AM)
FrEaKy! I went back to the Apple Education store that I can access (For Flinders University S.A.) and it is now showing only two models, the 20 GB, and the 40 GB. Within the space of 3 hours or so the 15 GB model has been removed! Sadly the price is not quite as good as what I hoped, it is $584.10 for the 40 GB model (I speculated it would be $540), and $448.80 for the 20 GB model. It does not state that these are prices for the 4G models, instead it says "w/click wheel". I should point out that it only says the dock is included for the 40 GB model, NOT the 20 GB model, that may simply be wrong, I'm sure more info will come to light in the next few days. Neither models state that they come with a remote. I would've hoped the 40 GB version at least would come with the remote.

All prices are AUD$.
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I just checked the Education store too (for Griffith University, QLD) and I think I know why the 20 GB is a tad more expensive....it comes with the USB 2.0 cable. smile.gif That's worth AUD$34 before so I think that's the extra cost. But that's good since having USB 2.0, this iPod can truly be a portable HD (I dont know many desktops here that have firewire).
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QUOTE (QuantumKnot @ Jul 20 2004, 12:36 AM)
I just checked the Education store too (for Griffith University, QLD) and I think I know why the 20 GB is a tad more expensive....it comes with the USB 2.0 cable. smile.gif  That's worth AUD$34 before so I think that's the extra cost. But that's good since having USB 2.0, this iPod can truly be a portable HD (I dont know many desktops here that have firewire).
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AFAIK the iPod is not seen as a HD by the host computer. That's a major drawback IMO, even though I imagine there are hacks available (that you'd have to install everytime you plug it on a new computer). So for me it's still not the perfect player (USB HD, HE-AAC, MP3, Wavpack, record, 40GB, USB On The Go)...


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post Jul 20 2004, 09:19
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QUOTE (robUx4 @ Jul 20 2004, 12:04 AM)
QUOTE (QuantumKnot @ Jul 20 2004, 12:36 AM)
I just checked the Education store too (for Griffith University, QLD) and I think I know why the 20 GB is a tad more expensive....it comes with the USB 2.0 cable. smile.gif  That's worth AUD$34 before so I think that's the extra cost.   But that's good since having USB 2.0, this iPod can truly be a portable HD (I dont know many desktops here that have firewire).
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AFAIK the iPod is not seen as a HD by the host computer. That's a major drawback IMO, even though I imagine there are hacks available (that you'd have to install everytime you plug it on a new computer). So for me it's still not the perfect player (USB HD, HE-AAC, MP3, Wavpack, record, 40GB, USB On The Go)...
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Sorry, but a removable HD is exactly what the iPod appears to the PC as. iTunes can be set to quickly connect, auto-sync, and then eject the iPod but you can easily change one dialog in the settings which allows you to use the iPod as a portable HD as long as your willing to put up with hitting the eject button in iTunes (or using the remove hardware feature in windows).

And BTW no extra drivers are needed to connect the iPod to a Win 2000/XP machine.
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- Busemann   New iPods!   Jul 18 2004, 15:42
- - blessingx   http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5457434/site/newsweek/...   Jul 18 2004, 15:52
- - ShowsOn   Yeah, given Apple's exagerated battery capacit...   Jul 18 2004, 18:05
|- - Cygnus X1   QUOTE (ShowsOn @ Jul 18 2004, 12:05 PM)Yeah, ...   Jul 18 2004, 18:31
|- - AtaqueEG   I almost purchased a 20GB third-generation iPod ye...   Jul 18 2004, 18:51
- - mithrandir   Even with a $100 price drop, they are still b...   Jul 18 2004, 19:40
|- - Bongoboy   QUOTE (mithrandir @ Jul 18 2004, 07:40 PM)but...   Jul 18 2004, 22:42
- - Teqnilogik   QUOTE (mithrandir @ Jul 18 2004, 01:40 PM)but...   Jul 18 2004, 22:55
- - negritot   I just hope it's more scratch resistant than t...   Jul 19 2004, 05:18
- - NeoRenegade   QUOTE (Teqnilogik @ Jul 18 2004, 04:55 PM)QUO...   Jul 19 2004, 05:33
- - AtaqueEG   How about "better looking"? Or "eas...   Jul 19 2004, 05:46
- - svkelley   I have a 2nd Generation 20G iPod that I use every ...   Jul 19 2004, 06:20
- - QuantumKnot   Looks good. I especially like the slightly longer...   Jul 19 2004, 06:54
|- - ShowsOn   QUOTE (QuantumKnot @ Jul 19 2004, 02:54 PM)I ...   Jul 19 2004, 12:05
|- - QuantumKnot   QUOTE (ShowsOn @ Jul 19 2004, 09:05 PM)QUOTE ...   Jul 19 2004, 13:55
|- - ShowsOn   FrEaKy! I went back to the Apple Education sto...   Jul 19 2004, 15:00
|- - bidz   QUOTE (ShowsOn @ Jul 19 2004, 06:00 AM)I shou...   Jul 19 2004, 15:13
||- - ShowsOn   QUOTE (bidz @ Jul 19 2004, 11:13 PM)Apple Sto...   Jul 19 2004, 15:28
|- - QuantumKnot   QUOTE (ShowsOn @ Jul 20 2004, 12:00 AM)FrEaKy...   Jul 20 2004, 00:36
|- - robUx4   QUOTE (QuantumKnot @ Jul 20 2004, 12:36 AM)I ...   Jul 20 2004, 09:04
|- - rufu   QUOTE (robUx4 @ Jul 20 2004, 12:04 AM)QUOTE (...   Jul 20 2004, 09:19
|- - robUx4   QUOTE (rufu @ Jul 20 2004, 09:19 AM)Sorry, bu...   Jul 20 2004, 09:41
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|- - ShowsOn   QUOTE (Polar @ Jul 19 2004, 04:53 PM)What I...   Jul 19 2004, 12:11
|- - Polar   (off topic) QUOTE (ShowsOn @ Jul 19 2004, 01...   Jul 19 2004, 15:00
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- - AgentMil   That sounds pretty neat... but now I have to justi...   Jul 19 2004, 12:17
- - robUx4   Does any user here know if it's possible to pl...   Jul 19 2004, 14:33
|- - Althalus   QUOTE (robUx4 @ Jul 19 2004, 02:33 PM)Does an...   Jul 20 2004, 11:43
|- - prism_emf   QUOTE (Althalus @ Jul 20 2004, 01:43 PM)Btw, ...   Jul 20 2004, 12:25
|- - ShowsOn   QUOTE (prism_emf @ Jul 20 2004, 08:25 PM)My b...   Jul 20 2004, 13:31
|- - prism_emf   QUOTE (ShowsOn @ Jul 20 2004, 03:31 PM)Any id...   Jul 20 2004, 15:23
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|- - AtaqueEG   QUOTE (phong @ Jul 19 2004, 08:15 AM)IMO, sty...   Jul 19 2004, 16:38
|- - ShowsOn   QUOTE (phong @ Jul 19 2004, 11:15 PM)IMO, sty...   Jul 20 2004, 13:36
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|- - robUx4   QUOTE (spoon @ Jul 20 2004, 09:34 AM)Doesn...   Jul 20 2004, 09:43
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|- - jkonami   QUOTE (ChangFest @ Jul 21 2004, 01:31 AM)QUOT...   Jul 21 2004, 07:43
|- - markgr   QUOTE (ChangFest @ Jul 21 2004, 01:31 AM)If g...   Jul 21 2004, 14:49
||- - ShowsOn   I'm in the process of going to FLAC, thus maki...   Jul 21 2004, 17:35
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