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westgroveg
post Jul 9 2004, 08:57
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I am thinking of starting to take on the task of converting my, my friends, my family's LPs, 78s, 45s to digital, CD's, I would like to do this with the best possible quality & find an easy, standard way of doing it so my mind can be at peace the process was done as best as possible & I won't have to do it again. These are questions I have,

Question 1. What hardware would be best as far as quality/price? I was thinking of getting a Darla Recording Sound Card would this be a good choice? what about Phono (I have no idea about this)?

Question 2. I want to get the best possible quality so I will clean the Vinyl records, what's the best way to do this?

Question 3. What software should I use to record the audio? Cool Edit? Sound Forge? others?

Question 4. Should clicks and crackles be filtered? if so which is (are) the best tool(s)?

Question 5. Can anyone recommend a guide to read?


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post Jul 9 2004, 12:31
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QUOTE (westgroveg @ Jul 9 2004, 08:57 AM)
Question 1. What hardware would be best as far as quality/price? I was thinking of getting a Darla Recording Sound Card would this be a good choice? what about Phono (I have no idea about this)?
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You absolutely need an analog volume control somewhere between the phono preampli output and the soundcard ADC. Otherwise, the phono preampli might clip the ADC, especially with 45 RPM records. For example there is no way to record a Stanton Trackmaster cartridge with a Marian Marc 2 soundcard. This soundcard is mine, but most other soundcard have the same problem with their line in conception. You can do whatever you want with the software mixer, the ADC clips the signal coming from the record !

If you have some 78 RPM record to record, get the special stylus needed. All Stanton cartridge (but you can check other brands too), have 78 RPM stylii (bigger than microgroove stylii) available. You'll have to get the different emphasis curves so as to apply the right treble boost too, unless you can get an old phono preamp with all equalisations available.

QUOTE (westgroveg @ Jul 9 2004, 08:57 AM)
Question 3. What software should I use to record the audio? Cool Edit? Sound Forge? others?
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The recording process is straightforward. The software has little to no influence on its quality. Rather consider the noise reduction abilities (try the demos), and the editing abilities (for vinyl burning, a virtual multitrack view, with instant non destructive editing, with a CDR burning engine, and the separate standard wav view is a must).

QUOTE (westgroveg @ Jul 9 2004, 08:57 AM)
Question 4. Should clicks and crackles be filtered? if so which is (are) the best tool(s)?
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They must be filtered only if they are audible. With records and stylus in good condition, you can get a clean recording with only several audible clicks without the help of a declicker.
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QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Jul 9 2004, 06:31 AM)
If you have some 78 RPM record to record, get the special stylus needed. All Stanton cartridge (but you can check other brands too), have 78 RPM stylii (bigger than microgroove stylii) available. You'll have to get the different emphasis curves so as to apply the right treble boost too, unless you can get an old phono preamp with all equalisations available.

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I have a mono preamp with multiple EQ settings, but how do you choose? Is there a reference for which labels used which ones and what year they caved and went to RIAA?
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QUOTE (DonP @ Nov 23 2004, 07:24 PM)
I have a mono preamp with multiple EQ settings, but how do you choose? Is there a reference for which labels used which ones and what year they caved and went to RIAA?
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I used to know the answer to this question - it's on the web - give me a moment...

This is the nearest I've found to answering your question.

http://www.rfwilmut.clara.net/repro78/repro.html

Excellent discussion about 78s, and there's a section on equalisation which includes some useful information and good links. This is a UK site - if you’re elsewhere, you may know of local sources for equipment, and find different record labels!

Towards the bottom of this page there are some rough dates:

http://www.vadlyd.dk/English/RIAA_and_78_RPM_preamp.html


There is/was a little book that listed all the known curves for thousands of record companies - I think I saw in on a tour around the Sony studios where they re-master old recordings - but I don't know where to do it.

One good approach is doing it by ear!

A final suggestion for digital audio restoration is to declick at the "flat" response (not RIAA or any other) and the apply (or re-apply, since you usually have to remove it first!) the EQ. This doesn't help me at all, but it does help some people.

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