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Monkey's Audio 3.99 released
Yaztromo
post Apr 29 2004, 18:50
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Available here: http://www.monkeysaudio.com/download.html

Version 3.99 (April 29, 2004)

1. Changed: Decoding engine better at handling corrupt streams / loss of internet connection while playing.
2. Changed: Simplified assembly code building for 3rd party developers.
3. NEW: Improved entropy coder for increased compression.
4. Changed: Removed RKAU support. (since it is no longer commonly used)
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guruboolez
post Apr 29 2004, 19:16
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Strange. I've deleted the previous version af Monkey, installed the 3.99F one, and the encoder (MAC.exe) is still the 3.98 beta one (date= 30/05/2003). The GUI is the 3.99 version, but the encoder isn't.
Could someone confirm this?
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harashin
post Apr 29 2004, 19:19
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QUOTE (guruboolez @ Apr 30 2004, 03:16 AM)
Strange. I've deleted the previous version af Monkey, installed the 3.99F one, and the encoder (MAC.exe) is still the 3.98 beta one (date= 30/05/2003). The GUI is the 3.99 version, but the encoder isn't.
Could someone confirm this?

It's shown as 3.98 here, too.
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D:\programs\Monkey's Audio>mac
--- Monkey's Audio Console Front End (v 3.98) (c) Matthew T. Ashland ---
Proper Usage: [EXE] [Input File] [Output File] [Mode]

Edit:shown as 3.97


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Yaztromo
post Apr 29 2004, 19:26
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I can confirm that my installation of 3.99 is has 3.98 of MAC.exe.

I have just created an ape file with the GUI in insane mode. Foobar 0.7.7b will not play this "ape: undefined". Does foobar not play 3.98 files, or are these 3.99 files? crying.gif
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guruboolez
post Apr 29 2004, 19:42
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I could confirm this.
Encoded with the CLI component of foobar2000, the ape files are OK, shown as 3.98 in metadata.
But encoded through the new GUI, the files are unplayable with fb2k 0.81, but are labeled 3.99.

Weird...
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rjamorim
post Apr 29 2004, 19:47
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http://www.monkeysaudio.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/Y...&num=1083260164

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MAC.exe didn't get updated.  I'll do that within a few days.

Like I said -- it's been a while and I'm rusty biggrin.gif


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post Apr 29 2004, 19:50
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I noticed MACDll.dll in system32 is updated to 3.99 while its frontend isn't.

Edit: I meant its console frontend.

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post Apr 29 2004, 19:53
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i surely enjoy .flac. wink.gif
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post Apr 29 2004, 19:56
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QUOTE (philaphonic @ Apr 29 2004, 03:53 PM)
i surely enjoy .flac. wink.gif

What a wonderful insight into your personal preferences! THANK-YOU!


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post Apr 29 2004, 19:58
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QUOTE (philaphonic @ Apr 29 2004, 07:53 PM)
i surely enjoy .flac. wink.gif

I like choclate.

anyway, let's hope the updated release will be up and about soon.

edit: lol, Roberto beat me to it ;-)

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post Apr 29 2004, 20:17
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Is Monkey's Audio open source now? I saw this on the homepage.

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post Apr 29 2004, 20:19
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QUOTE (p0wder @ Apr 29 2004, 04:17 PM)
Is Monkey's Audio open source now?

It's been for more than two years

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post Apr 29 2004, 20:20
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3.99 versions:
Console frontend : http://www.saunalahti.fi/cse/temp/MAC.zip
foobar decoder: http://www.saunalahti.fi/cse/temp/foo_ape.zip
foobar encoder: http://www.saunalahti.fi/cse/temp/foo_monkey.zip
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post Apr 29 2004, 20:25
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QUOTE (rjamorim @ Apr 29 2004, 11:19 AM)
QUOTE (p0wder @ Apr 29 2004, 04:17 PM)
Is Monkey's Audio open source now?

It's been for more than two years

Haha I was afraid of that. My bad.
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post Apr 29 2004, 20:43
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Wow that was fast Case, thanks.

Decoder seems to work fine on 3.99 files here. On insane files there is a long pause before playback starts, but I'm attributing that to the nature of insane apes.
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post Apr 29 2004, 20:49
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post Apr 29 2004, 21:01
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Thanks Case! Good to have you back. smile.gif


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post Apr 29 2004, 21:06
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QUOTE (rjamorim @ Apr 29 2004, 04:56 PM)
QUOTE (philaphonic @ Apr 29 2004, 03:53 PM)
i surely enjoy .flac. wink.gif

What a wonderful insight into your personal preferences! THANK-YOU!

@rjamorim: Zero tolerance style.
Hehehehehehehe laugh.gif
How about encoding time compared to others lossless codecs?


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post Apr 29 2004, 21:13
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QUOTE (SoNiX @ Apr 29 2004, 05:06 PM)
@rjamorim: Zero tolerance style.

He asked for it :B

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How about encoding time compared to others lossless codecs?


Let's wait until Hans Heijden or Speek update their comparisions.

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post Apr 29 2004, 21:16
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QUOTE (SoNiX @ Apr 29 2004, 09:06 PM)
How about encoding time compared to others lossless codecs?

http://flac.sourceforge.net/comparison.html

http://www.monkeysaudio.com/comparison.html (waaay outdated)


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post Apr 29 2004, 21:20
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He Case,
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And thanks for the files.


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post Apr 29 2004, 21:20
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QUOTE (Digga @ Apr 29 2004, 05:16 PM)

Flac isn't up-to-date either.

As far as I can see, so far no comparision is featuring Monkey's Audio 3.99.


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post Apr 29 2004, 21:24
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QUOTE (rjamorim @ Apr 29 2004, 09:20 PM)
Flac isn't up-to-date either.
As far as I can see, so far no comparision is featuring Monkey's Audio 3.99

I know, but the flac page is at least more up to date than ape's... missed Speeks comparison though.
I thought SoNiX's question was more of a general nature, and not so much pointed at the brand new release...


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post Apr 29 2004, 21:42
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Just a quick test of 3.99. Sorry, I didn't have time to compare to another encoder (e.g. FLAC)

System
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Athlon XP 2400 at 2055mhz, 137mhz FSB (274mhz)
768mb PC2100 RAM
80Gb Barracuda IV Ultra DMA mode 5
Windows XP
Monkeys Audio GUI 3.99.

Encoding results
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Album: AC/DC - If You Want Blood You've Got It (Metal)
Original WAV's: 534.9mb
Insane - 380.42mb, 7:55 encode time, 6:40 decode time
Extra High - 381.20mb, 2:19 encode time, 2:31 decode time
High - 382.42mb, 1:20 encode time, 1:33 decode time
Normal - 383.03mb, 1:12 encode time, 1:26 decode time
Fast - 386.54mb, 0:55 encode time, 1:08 decode time

Note: Insane files won't play gaplessly with Foobar2000. There are long pauses before the start of each track.

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post Apr 29 2004, 21:45
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Yes things are beginning to pile up, things to update (am I missing anything?):
Monkey's: 3.97 -> 3.99
OptimFROG: 4.506 -> 4.509
Shorten: 3.5.1 -> 3.5.2 (bugfix only)
RAR: 3.11 -> 3.30 (dunno if improved)
TTA: 2.0 -> 3.0
Apple lossless
RealAudio lossless
WavPack 4.0 stable would be nice too, say, tomorrow? wink.gif

Give me a few days, meanwhile Speek is always faster with updating!

Edit: Thanks Yaztromo, insane mode appears similar to 3.98 alpha 1 results, see here.

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