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Upgrade the official HA LAME version?, Now (3.96) or wait until 4.0?
Should the officially recommended version of LAME be upgraded now if possible, or should we wait for 4.0?
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Jebus
post Mar 6 2004, 23:57
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Basically, as Takahiro has noted that 4.0 is still a ways off, and 3.90 is several years old, should we work on testing 3.96 now? If this version tests out as well as 3.90.3, or does with some minor tweaking, then the speed advantages at the very least make for some incentive, don't you think?

Benefits of an upgrade now:
  • Faster encodes
  • Lower bitrates
  • Built-in clipping removal
  • Forced --alt-presets when using VBR


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post Mar 7 2004, 17:23
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We can't keep the 3.90 release "haunting" us forever...it might be a landmark in the Lame history, but we have to check if things have actually progressed since then. Hydrogenaudio is all about testing and suggesting accordingly. Keeping up-to-date is not always essential, but we have to check v3.96's quality before condemning it as inferior and sticking again with 2 years old code. I don't know if the latest version is better, but I sure want to find out. wink.gif
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- Jebus   Upgrade the official HA LAME version?   Mar 6 2004, 23:57
- - atici   What about: Wait for 3.96, and request developers ...   Mar 7 2004, 00:04
- - Pio2001   I vote for a test of the last version. Especially ...   Mar 7 2004, 00:37
- - Teqnilogik   I think we should test 3.96 and see about making i...   Mar 7 2004, 01:25
- - westgroveg   Tight preset tunning would need to be done for 3.9...   Mar 7 2004, 01:34
- - Moguta   I'm all for a 3.96 --preset listening test vs....   Mar 7 2004, 01:43
- - RyanVM   QUOTE (Moguta @ Mar 6 2004, 07:43 PM)I'm ...   Mar 7 2004, 01:59
- - burgerings   Bring on the Testing Would be great to have a ne...   Mar 7 2004, 03:43
- - bidz   I second that. People tend to have more interest i...   Mar 7 2004, 03:50
- - kl33per   There's an old saying that says if it ain...   Mar 7 2004, 03:55
- - westgroveg   QUOTE (kl33per @ Mar 7 2004, 02:55 PM)There...   Mar 7 2004, 05:00
- - kl33per   I wasn't trying to discourage testing of new r...   Mar 7 2004, 08:10
- - jtclipper   Evolve use 3.96 , the developers keep working on t...   Mar 7 2004, 09:46
- - guruboolez   QUOTE (kl33per @ Mar 7 2004, 03:55 AM)There...   Mar 7 2004, 10:16
- - ArsonDragon   I agree...test 3.96 now, then, once 4.0 is ready i...   Mar 7 2004, 10:21
- - phwip   I would like to see the latest version tested, and...   Mar 7 2004, 11:29
- - burgerings   I mean if a test was setup like AAC 128K we might ...   Mar 7 2004, 11:39
- - n68   gday.. well. am noy that huge mp3 fan.. after i ...   Mar 7 2004, 11:52
- - guruboolez   The changelog is available in the archive file on ...   Mar 7 2004, 12:06
- - elmar3rd   The last option in every poll should always be ...   Mar 7 2004, 12:57
- - evereux   If a test was to take place (and assuming it's...   Mar 7 2004, 13:46
- - Jojo   QUOTE (evereux @ Mar 7 2004, 04:46 AM)If a te...   Mar 7 2004, 14:40
- - tigre   IMO this can't be done in a way that is compar...   Mar 7 2004, 14:41
- - tigre   Oh - and about ABR/VBR: We would need to know what...   Mar 7 2004, 14:58
- - kl33per   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Mar 7 2004, 07:16 PM)Inte...   Mar 7 2004, 15:00
- - Wombat   Nice idea to count test samples that became better...   Mar 7 2004, 15:03
- - Jojo   QUOTE (tigre @ Mar 7 2004, 05:58 AM)Oh - and ...   Mar 7 2004, 15:14
- - kl33per   LAME 3.90.3 is recommended over other versions for...   Mar 7 2004, 15:42
- - Gecko   Is there a special reason to be testing 3.96 rathe...   Mar 7 2004, 15:52
- - guruboolez   Serious testing should be done, even if lame 3.96 ...   Mar 7 2004, 15:58
- - Jojo   QUOTE (Gecko @ Mar 7 2004, 06:52 AM)Is there ...   Mar 7 2004, 16:14
- - MugFunky   ACH! my post disappeared. well, anyways, i s...   Mar 7 2004, 16:22
- - Gabriel   QUOTE Is there a special reason to be testing 3.96...   Mar 7 2004, 16:35
- - Gabriel   QUOTE it would make more sense to go to all that t...   Mar 7 2004, 16:39
- - Wombat   Well the birds sample is cured absolutely also wit...   Mar 7 2004, 16:45
- - bluewer than blue   We can't keep the 3.90 release "haunting...   Mar 7 2004, 17:23
- - High Fidelity   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Mar 7 2004, 06:58 AM).......   Mar 7 2004, 18:35
- - tigre   Thanks for your answers, Gabriel. The remaining qu...   Mar 7 2004, 18:43
- - Gabriel   Quality related changes are always planned: we are...   Mar 7 2004, 20:29
- - Lyx   you also have to take into account, that even if w...   Mar 7 2004, 21:29
- - robert   QUOTE (tigre @ Mar 7 2004, 06:43 PM)Thanks fo...   Mar 7 2004, 21:59
- - indybrett   Bitrate bloat seems under control now as well. I w...   Mar 7 2004, 22:15
- - Gecko   QUOTE (Gabriel @ Mar 7 2004, 04:35 PM)You hav...   Mar 7 2004, 22:46
- - tigre   QUOTE (Gabriel @ Mar 7 2004, 09:29 PM)Quality...   Mar 7 2004, 22:57
- - guruboolez   QUOTE (Gecko @ Mar 7 2004, 10:46 PM)I believe...   Mar 7 2004, 23:25
- - Dologan   Your position makes sense, guruboolez. The burden ...   Mar 7 2004, 23:42
- - Gabriel   To make it clear: there is no major quality improv...   Mar 7 2004, 23:45
- - amano   There is no major quality improvement IN 3.96 beta...   Mar 8 2004, 00:02
- - Gabriel   QUOTE There is no major quality improvement IN 3.9...   Mar 8 2004, 00:05
- - amano   TNX for clarification. I hope, that the HA recomm...   Mar 8 2004, 00:11
- - burgerings   It seems to me people want to keep "waiting...   Mar 8 2004, 00:12
- - burgerings   Howdy, Here is a quick test I did of 4 songs that ...   Mar 8 2004, 00:47
- - xand   QUOTE (burgerings @ Mar 7 2004, 03:47 PM)Howd...   Mar 8 2004, 00:50
- - burgerings   *EDIT* Yes, All were encoded using alt-preset stan...   Mar 8 2004, 00:55
- - PVNC   I just put together some samples of my own, but I ...   Mar 8 2004, 00:58
- - Smiff   The poll results are overwhelmingly towards (B) ...   Mar 8 2004, 01:34
- - The_Cisco_Kid   I voted for the 'test and possibly upgrade...   Mar 8 2004, 01:40
- - Jebus   Having started, then read through this whole threa...   Mar 8 2004, 01:51
- - Gecko   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Mar 7 2004, 11:25 PM)But ...   Mar 8 2004, 11:09
- - Gabriel   QUOTE If 27 month old code is superior to today...   Mar 8 2004, 11:34
- - guruboolez   First, for vorbis, the final 1.0 was immediately a...   Mar 8 2004, 11:34
- - Gecko   QUOTE (Gabriel @ Mar 8 2004, 11:34 AM)I hope ...   Mar 8 2004, 15:13
- - dev0   What you can see/read from these threads is that t...   Mar 8 2004, 15:33
- - Gabriel   QUOTE If you tell me that the test result, whateve...   Mar 8 2004, 15:42
- - Gabriel   QUOTE What you can see/read from these threads is ...   Mar 8 2004, 15:44
- - dev0   That's why 'problem' is in quotation m...   Mar 8 2004, 15:48
- - john33   I am all for change, but not for its own sake. I h...   Mar 8 2004, 15:52
- - Gecko   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Mar 8 2004, 11:34 AM)Firs...   Mar 8 2004, 16:12
- - LoFiYo   I would like to suggest adding at the top of the ...   Mar 8 2004, 17:43
- - Vietwoojagig   I am always using the latest version of LAME since...   Mar 8 2004, 23:14
- - RyanVM   I'm going to start using 3.96 from here out. ...   Mar 9 2004, 00:12
- - burgerings   I would wait and see over the next few weeks... It...   Mar 9 2004, 00:15
- - gazzyk1ns   The thing is... people are looking at different as...   Mar 10 2004, 20:45
- - burgerings   Well that is your opinion...Why shouldn't we t...   Mar 10 2004, 23:24
- - chrisgeleven   You know why I don't bother switching from LAM...   Mar 11 2004, 00:59
- - burgerings   Your Posts speaks the truth so well...........   Mar 11 2004, 01:11
- - Gabriel   QUOTE Communication has broke down between the com...   Mar 11 2004, 09:57
- - holkie   guys, you'd better thank all lame dev team for...   Mar 11 2004, 10:13
- - DigitalDictator   I must say I think chrisgeleven's comments are...   Mar 11 2004, 10:17
- - phwip   Although I may not fully appreciate the history of...   Mar 11 2004, 10:51
- - jtclipper   QUOTE (Halcyon @ Mar 11 2004, 01:40 AM)I beli...   Mar 11 2004, 12:13
- - Wombat   Some people here often write about the developers ...   Mar 11 2004, 12:15
- - SometimesWarrior   QUOTE (chrisgeleven @ Mar 10 2004, 03:59 PM)C...   Mar 11 2004, 12:21
- - jtclipper   QUOTE (SometimesWarrior @ Mar 11 2004, 03:21 ...   Mar 11 2004, 12:25
- - SometimesWarrior   In any case, none of the bitrate Presets (e.g. --p...   Mar 11 2004, 12:32
- - SometimesWarrior   QUOTE (jtclipper @ Mar 11 2004, 03:25 AM)QUOT...   Mar 11 2004, 12:34
- - westgroveg   QUOTE (SometimesWarrior @ Mar 11 2004, 11:32 ...   Mar 11 2004, 12:49
- - SometimesWarrior   QUOTE (westgroveg @ Mar 11 2004, 03:49 AM)Thi...   Mar 11 2004, 13:21
- - chrisgeleven   Gabriel, I'm sorry if I offended you, I have n...   Mar 11 2004, 13:32
- - burgerings   So is a public test going to be conducted that sho...   Mar 12 2004, 00:13
- - chrisgeleven   My opinion: no stable releases until a release is ...   Mar 12 2004, 02:08
- - indybrett   QUOTE (Wombat @ Mar 7 2004, 09:03 AM)Nice ide...   Mar 12 2004, 02:34
- - Jebus   QUOTE (indybrett @ Mar 11 2004, 05:34 PM)Ther...   Mar 12 2004, 07:14
- - gazzyk1ns   I'm disappointed nobody has replied to my post...   Mar 12 2004, 12:27
- - ChangFest   QUOTE I just think that an appropriate mass test a...   Mar 13 2004, 08:45
- - gazzyk1ns   There's far more time to prepare a suitable st...   Mar 13 2004, 14:10
- - ChangFest   Personally, I'm of the opinion that the newest...   Mar 13 2004, 19:27
- - Pio2001   Your opinion is interesting, ChagFest. After all, ...   Mar 13 2004, 22:09
- - westgroveg   I think some people are missing the real issue, th...   Mar 13 2004, 23:43
- - High Fidelity   Testing LAME with all it's options is surely a...   Mar 14 2004, 03:08
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