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Žom
post Jan 11 2004, 22:38
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I see most of people who use lossless use FLAC codec...

I did some tests, & I don't know why more use FLAC instead of APE...

I tested with:
FLAC compression 8 (maximum)
APE 3.98a1, compression normal

Size of files: FLAC - APE (Kb)
file 1: 1268 - 1246
file 2: 31049 - 30387
file 3: 27871 - 27213
file 4: 33252 - 23975 (!)

So APE normal compress more than FLAC maximum...

APE Encoding was shorter than APE encoding (far away).

Decoding seems to be equivalent (APE maybe better).

So why people prefer FLAC, what advantages?

If I forgot anything to compare, or else...
Thanks...
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post Jan 14 2004, 10:59
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I realize that the discussion of what defines open source is off-topic, but as you've left your original confusing comment I'll repeat:

APE, despite the availability of it's source code, is *not* open source (as defined by the OSI and, imho, as generally accepted by programmers of all kinds).

Real world effects of this are that certain influential Linux distributions will not include the code (Debian for one) which limits it's acceptance and use in the Linux community as does the fact that no open source (per OSI) programs can build upon the code unless they ask for it to be relicensed (which they have previously, and been turned down).

Also, each business that wishes to use the code will need to negotiate with the author the exact terms of use in advance, rather than deal with a known license that is in common use. This (imho) limits the chance of it being adopted by businesses.

Other miscelleaneous problems include the legal limbo if the original author dies or just becomes difficult to contact etc.

The above is an on-topic comment as far as APE vs. FLAC is concerned as FLAC is under an OSI approved licence (i.e. what I would call "open source") and for some people this is an important distinction and reason for choosing one over the other. And not *all* of these people are zealots or just the general kind of idiots you commonly find cheerleading for Ogg Vorbis.

Some discussion of the issue can be found here on the APE discussion boards:
http://www.monkeysaudio.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/Y...&num=1029850282

and this one is interesting too:

http://www.monkeysaudio.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/Y...&num=1070119776
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- Žom   FLAC & APE   Jan 11 2004, 22:38
- - atici   Oh no please use the search. Or just click on For...   Jan 11 2004, 22:42
- - Žom   QUOTE (atici @ Jan 11 2004, 01:42 PM)Oh no p...   Jan 11 2004, 23:01
- - user   hm, flac has way shorter decoding times / cpu usag...   Jan 12 2004, 00:46
- - Garf   Disadvantage of FLAC: buggy seeking.   Jan 12 2004, 00:50
- - Žom   QUOTE (user @ Jan 11 2004, 03:46 PM)hm, flac ...   Jan 12 2004, 00:56
- - jcoalson   QUOTE (Žom @ Jan 11 2004, 04:38 PM)So why peo...   Jan 12 2004, 05:02
- - Žom   So, the (only) advantage of FLAC is decoding time,...   Jan 12 2004, 12:30
- - Amadablam   QUOTE (Žom @ Jan 12 2004, 04:30 AM)So, the (o...   Jan 12 2004, 13:44
- - rjamorim   QUOTE (Amadablam @ Jan 12 2004, 10:44 AM)and ...   Jan 12 2004, 13:49
- - guruboolez   Advantage (for me) of Monkey: APEv2 tags are store...   Jan 12 2004, 14:29
- - Amadablam   QUOTE (rjamorim @ Jan 12 2004, 05:49 AM)QUOTE...   Jan 12 2004, 14:48
- - Žom   Ok thanks very much for your answers   Jan 12 2004, 15:33
- - Žom   QUOTE (Garf @ Jan 11 2004, 03:50 PM)Disadvant...   Jan 12 2004, 18:20
- - spase   I have myself decided to use FLAC with external cu...   Jan 12 2004, 18:54
- - Garf   QUOTE (jcoalson @ Jan 12 2004, 06:02 AM)how s...   Jan 12 2004, 19:30
- - rjamorim   QUOTE (dev0 @ Jan 12 2004, 04:57 PM)Eric Raym...   Jan 12 2004, 19:59
- - dev0   Licensing / OSI discussion (What is open source?) ...   Jan 12 2004, 20:00
- - rjamorim   QUOTE (dev0 @ Jan 12 2004, 05:00 PM)Licensing...   Jan 12 2004, 20:04
- - bawjaws   I realize that the discussion of what defines open...   Jan 14 2004, 10:59


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