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LAME --nogap in EAC, Is this possible?
TakuSkan
post Dec 3 2003, 20:42
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I've been reading through posts on the LAME --nogap option. Some say the MP3 format doesn't allow gapless files. Some people say they've gotten it to work.

I'm gathering that it >can< work, but won't totally eliminate the gap.

I tried configuring EAC with the command: "--alt-preset standard --nogap %s %d" but didn't have any success. EncSpot has a field that indicates a --nogap encoded MP3, but none of the MP3s I encoded indicated that --nogap had been applied.

Can anyone tell me if it's possible to get EAC to execute --nogap on a series of tracks?

Thanks,

Shel
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TakuSkan
post Dec 4 2003, 20:27
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QUOTE (zZzZzZz @ Dec 4 2003, 08:28 AM)
Foobar2000 heavily relies on floating-point math, it will be slower than Winamp on older machines (while it actually decodes MP3 faster than Winamp on athlon-class CPUs).

Okay... I've been using my two tiny Toshiba Libretto's, a 70CT and a 100CT as multi-purpose MP3 player/Notebooks w/20GB & 40GB HDDs for MP3 storage... and actually, FooBar2000 does in fact run relatively well on the 166MHz 100CT. There's a little lag time after scanning the playback position forwards or backwards, but for 99% of use, MP3s play relatively gaplessly from one to the next.

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I suggest that you actually read the topic linked above, you seem to have missed major part of it (especially my post explaining what exactly gapless playback is, ...

Okay... I've re-read your posts again. Though I have to confess that I'm not that familiar with MP3 coding, so a lot of this is a bit of a stretch for me.

You address the problems as being rooted in "Gapless decoding", and "Gapless output".

Gapless decoding problems being:

1) problems, "truncating last samples or adding extra null samples"
2) "encoder/decoder delay" necessitating storing, "two additional numbers",

Gapless output problem being:

1) "old) players have a design flaw requiring them to reopen wave output device between tracks"

Okay, it's nice to have a handle on the 'whys' of what causes the problem, but again I confess I'm just trying to figure out how to address the issue. Were you indicating that I might not be able to achieve effective gapless playback with my <200MHz systems? I know I'm probably never going to achieve flawless nogap playback, but WinAmp 2.91 with the CrudSoft gapless plugin seems to do a commendable job of coming close.

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and links to in_mpg123).

My apologies... I did try to track down more info on in_mpg123. But the links provided all pointed to Japanese language websites where I had a hard time gleaning much useful information. Have you compared in_mpg123 to the CrudSoft plugin?:

http://classic.winamp.com/plugins/detail.j...mponentId=24303

In another post, you stated:

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Proper gapless playback in Winamp requires both in_mpg123 and "gapless" output plugin (configured not to reopen output between tracks, but without removing silent samples, since input plugin already does that without guessing exact number of samples to remove).

Can you point me to URLs where I can download both in_mpg123 and whatever '"gapless" output plugin' I may need to get WinAmp fine tuned? Are the settings in in_mpg123 written with Japanese characters?

Thanks for your feedback.

Shel
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- TakuSkan   LAME --nogap in EAC   Dec 3 2003, 20:42
- - witt   You can get gapless playback without --nogap optio...   Dec 3 2003, 21:16
- - Peter   --nogap switch itself needs player-side support to...   Dec 3 2003, 21:21
- - TakuSkan   QUOTE (zZzZzZz @ Dec 3 2003, 04:21 PM)--nogap...   Dec 3 2003, 23:41
- - TakuSkan   QUOTE (zZzZzZz @ Dec 3 2003, 04:21 PM)--nogap...   Dec 4 2003, 02:27
- - Peter   QUOTE (TakuSkan @ Dec 4 2003, 04:27 AM)QUOTE ...   Dec 4 2003, 03:01
- - Mike Giacomelli   QUOTE (TakuSkan @ Dec 3 2003, 11:42 AM)I...   Dec 4 2003, 05:08
- - TakuSkan   QUOTE (zZzZzZz @ Dec 3 2003, 10:01 PM)--nogap...   Dec 4 2003, 08:38
- - pdh11   QUOTE (TakuSkan @ Dec 3 2003, 11:42 AM)I trie...   Dec 4 2003, 13:18
- - pdh11   QUOTE (TakuSkan @ Dec 3 2003, 02:41 PM)But us...   Dec 4 2003, 13:26
- - Peter   QUOTE (TakuSkan @ Dec 4 2003, 10:38 AM)QUOTE ...   Dec 4 2003, 13:28
- - Mike Giacomelli   QUOTE (TakuSkan @ Dec 3 2003, 11:38 PM)QUOTE ...   Dec 4 2003, 19:42
- - TakuSkan   QUOTE (zZzZzZz @ Dec 4 2003, 08:28 AM)Foobar2...   Dec 4 2003, 20:27
- - Moneo   QUOTE (TakuSkan @ Dec 4 2003, 08:27 PM)Were y...   Dec 4 2003, 23:07
- - TakuSkan   QUOTE (Mike Giacomelli @ Dec 4 2003, 02:42 PM...   Dec 5 2003, 21:29
- - TakuSkan   QUOTE (Moneo @ Dec 4 2003, 06:07 PM)For start...   Dec 5 2003, 21:50
- - Thrasher   QUOTE (zZzZzZz @ Dec 3 2003, 06:01 PM)QUOTE (...   Jan 11 2004, 14:49
- - criZZb   QUOTE (Thrasher @ Jan 11 2004, 02:49 PM)You s...   Jan 12 2004, 20:34
- - PhileasFogg   why wouldn't --nogap files play just as well o...   May 17 2004, 04:54
- - Peter   QUOTE (PhileasFogg @ May 17 2004, 06:54 AM)wh...   May 17 2004, 11:20
- - Gabriel   Anyway I am in favor of removal of --nogap in v4. ...   May 17 2004, 11:53
- - PhileasFogg   sorry, zZzZzZz, i wasn't clear about what i me...   May 17 2004, 18:08


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