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Recommended Encoder Versions and Settings
pepoluan
post Jan 22 2006, 18:35
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QUOTE (HotshotGG @ Jan 21 2006, 12:02 PM)
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I still don't get the lowpass filter switch... if it accepts only one parameter, then how do I specify the lowpass freq?


it doesn't belong in the wiki if you add any information related to I will remove it. Zealous magical thinking doesn't outweigh the needs of many. I will make a note of it though, but I more than willing to bet QuantumKnot would agree with me 120% anyway.
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After much soul-searching tongue.gif well not that much actually biggrin.gif I agree with you. AFAIK these values (whatever they're supposed to mean) are tuned between versions. Unless we want to change the Wiki page into a changelog I don't see a reason to write it in.

After all, the page is called "Recommended ..." and these lowpass selftunes, I believe, are not recommended cool.gif


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post Jan 23 2006, 03:38
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QUOTE (HotshotGG @ Jan 21 2006, 12:02 PM)
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Annnddd... one thing still irks me: If only the OggDropXPd manual is done tongue.gif ... well anyways I created a stub for OggDropXPd you can check here, there's a section I call "Manual".
The page looks good. biggrin.gif. Keep working on it.
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More meat has gone into the OggDropXPd manual. smile.gif I decided not to use the downloadable manual from rarewares. I know this decision may or may not cause disagreement...

... or not tongue.gif so please check out the OggDropXPd page at Wiki and tell me what y'all.


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post May 11 2006, 17:13
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Hi,
i got a problem: Always when i convert files with one of the commandline encoders listed above i can't play it with my mp3-player (or only some files). i played them in foobar and there i get the message "files is corrupted" but it plays. Can anyone tell me why the encoder creates corrupted files?
Thanks in advance.
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post May 11 2006, 17:21
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QUOTE (Rucksacksepp @ May 11 2006, 16:13) *
Hi,
i got a problem: Always when i convert files with one of the commandline encoders listed above i can't play it with my mp3-player (or only some files). i played them in foobar and there i get the message "files is corrupted" but it plays. Can anyone tell me why the encoder creates corrupted files?
Thanks in advance.
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The short answer is they don't create corrupted files, but tell us what command line you're using and we'll take it from there. wink.gif

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Annnddd... one thing still irks me: If only the OggDropXPd manual is done tongue.gif ... well anyways I created a stub for OggDropXPd you can check here, there's a section I call "Manual".
The page looks good. biggrin.gif. Keep working on it.
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More meat has gone into the OggDropXPd manual. smile.gif I decided not to use the downloadable manual from rarewares. I know this decision may or may not cause disagreement...

... or not tongue.gif so please check out the OggDropXPd page at Wiki and tell me what y'all.

Sorry, I know it's well after the fact, but there's no disagreement here. wink.gif You seem to be doing a good job, so do please carry right on with it.


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post May 11 2006, 20:53
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QUOTE (john33 @ May 11 2006, 23:21) *
QUOTE (pepoluan @ Jan 23 2006, 02:38) *

... or not tongue.gif so please check out the OggDropXPd page at Wiki and tell me what y'all.
Sorry, I know it's well after the fact, but there's no disagreement here. wink.gif You seem to be doing a good job, so do please carry right on with it.
Ahh... you have put me to shame, John. I had been abandoning this page for quite some time...

Well, I've just updated it. Some slight rewords, now it's not *the* manual but a *quickstart* manual. The description for all the advanced settings may be waaaaaaay over the head for Vorbis newbies.

Inputs welcome.


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post May 31 2006, 18:12
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Hurrah! Pop open those champagne bottle cause version 1.0 of the Encoding QuickStart for OggDropXPd is *finally* complete! biggrin.gif

Check this out and please give feedback.

Peace! smile.gif


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post Jul 5 2006, 00:52
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The Rarewares links in the main post don't seem to be working. Had to go download the files manually.
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post Jul 5 2006, 15:50
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The links are probably out-of-date.

Use the wiki page referenced in the first post.


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post Aug 8 2006, 08:01
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Oookay, more than 6 months since aoTuV beta 4.51 (aka aoTuV b4b) has been released (in 2005-11-17).

Anyone got a bone to pick with aoTuV beta 4.51?

Can we modify the wiki section here (and elsewhere on the same page/wiki) so that the recommended aoTuV is now beta 4.51?

If no one disagree, let's -- within this week or so -- change the page.


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post Aug 21 2006, 23:14
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Wiki page modified.


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post Aug 22 2006, 08:09
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QUOTE (gameplaya15143 @ Jan 15 2006, 19:45) *
ogg vorbis lowpass frequency:
the first column is the quality setting (-q)
the top row is the samplerates( 8999- means everything below 9000hz, 9000+ means that the lowpass frequencies in its column are valit untill it reaches the next 'step' in samplerate which would be 15000, etc.)
lowpass frequencies are in KHz
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Qual\SR 8999-   9000+   15000+  19000+  26000+  40000+
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-2      2.6     4.0     6.0     8.5     12.0    13.2
-1      3.0     4.5     6.5     9.5     12.6    14.8
0       4.0     5.5     7.5     10.5    13.0    15.1
1       4.0     8.0     10.4    13.1    13.0    15.8
2       4.0     10.4    15.3    17.3    14.0    16.5
3       4.0     12.9    20.2    21.6    15.0    17.2
4       4.0     15.3    25.1    25.8    99.0    18.3
5       4.0     17.8    30.0    30.0    99.0    20.1
6       4.0     20.2    43.8    43.8    99.0    48.0
7       4.0     22.7    57.6    57.6    99.0    999
8       4.0     25.1    71.4    71.4    99.0    999
9       4.0     27.6    85.2    85.2    99.0    999
10      4.0     30.0    99.0    99.0    99.0    999
This table is valid for Sample Rates of 6000-96000.
(I didn't test beyond that.)
OggEnc v2.6 (Lancer 20051121 based on aoTuV b4b)

Note: The lowpass frequencies were slightly higher in older versions, like oggenc v1.0.1. At 44100hz: q3 17.9, q4 20.5.

Note2: More info is a good thing smile.gif I personally got some good knowledge from creating this table.

edit: added a better explanation of how to read the table.. i hope


What about adding these to the table in the wiki?
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post Aug 23 2006, 18:41
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QUOTE (fpi @ Aug 22 2006, 14:09) *
What about adding these to the table in the wiki?

This has been discussed before. Please read the posts.

The answer is: no, never.


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post Aug 23 2006, 19:42
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aoTuV beta4.51 has been updated to aoTuV Release 1 (2006/08/23).

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Interesting. We will have to make a note of that for the wiki. Thanks. wink.gif


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post Aug 30 2006, 00:00
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The first page of this thread should be updated as well.
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post Sep 6 2006, 19:01
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QUOTE (Mekatype @ Aug 30 2006, 06:00) *
The first page of this thread should be updated as well.
Well, the first post already links to the wiki and explicitly said that one should check the Wiki for more up-to-date info.


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post Oct 7 2006, 10:44
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I'd like to have ogg aoTuV r1 in "Win32 DLL (not reference)", but on the aotuv page, there is only this for b4.51 sad.gif ... ?
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@om: try this. http://homepage3.nifty.com/blacksword/
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post Jan 2 2007, 15:41
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hi all
I have a problem about the vorbis encoder...
If my CPU is Pentium D
which vorbis encoder should I use?
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post Jan 3 2007, 00:54
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the SSE3 one on the website which i previously provided. you could also download the MT version as well if you want.
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And, aoTuV's beta 5 is released. Which is better quality-wise anyway? Lancer's build or OggdropXpd's?

Also, unfortunately, John's Rarewares.org has been suspended. tongue.gif

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QUOTE (Spikey @ Jan 7 2007, 06:31) *
And, aoTuV's beta 5 is released. Which is better quality-wise anyway? Lancer's build or OggdropXpd's?


Nobody has ever been able to ABX the differences between Blacksword's Lancer builds and john33's ones which are based on Aoyumi's reference implementation. Hence you can safely use the faster Lancer builds.

Edit: Grammar, grammar!

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which vorbis decoders are safe for ABX-ing?

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<deleteme>links to rarewares files seems to be borken</deleteme>


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QUOTE (smok3 @ May 21 2007, 21:09) *
<deleteme>links to rarewares files seems to be borken</deleteme>
Aaaaahhh... they're borken!

I blame roberto tongue.gif


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