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Why does the gauge of speaker wire matter?
mkop
post Oct 11 2003, 04:12
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I've read some things discussing speaker wiring such as speaker reviews and their is always something like "the included cables are ok but you'll probably want to go and get something thicker." My question is why do I want some huge python of a cable? And what principles are used to decide what size is big enough?
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post Oct 12 2003, 06:16
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However, I noted an interesting thing - everyone is obsessed with the cable alone and completely ignoring the enviroment. I think this is wrong, based on this previous experience:

The topic was started on wires not enviroment, and I don't believe people have been obsessed with cables (no one is saying "buy mostercables or you might as well not listen to music")

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A digtial signal is a digital signal
- Although it should be the case - I can tell you that in practice it is not always that way. Prime example was my last MB which was getting random data errors from the VIA chipset - because of what i guess was interference the digital data was getting corrupted.
There are quite a few reasons I can think of why your optical transmission sounded worse than the coax but I doubt it has to do with the actual transmission of data. I remember some early designs would actually have a DAC from the CD player and then a ADC to the optical out - and conversly on the reciever another DAC. So the signal goes through 2 stages of unnecessary quantization which doesn't help in keeping the origianal signal. There was also promblems with optical out of different manufacturers that would overdrive the sensors which caused considerable errors in transmission and reception. But I'd say the problem was with one or both units and not the "enviroment" in that case.

1) corrorosion is a problem, there is another niche market that deals with terminators that reduce the amount of corrosion that the ends will experience, also for certain countries like Japan, where there is a high humidity in the air, they will plate the conductors with metals such as gold which are more resistant to corrosion. But a normal interior should not have a problem for at least a few years and yet if you do notice that the wires are getting corroded then just snip off enough wire to get back to non-corroded copper.

2) the cable path should be intelligently laid out; Don't run it near mains line which could affect a 50/60Hz hum into the speakers, the cables lying in a coil is not that big an issue but it is more important that you keep the legnth of the wire to the speakers from the amp as short as necessary- an said before the longer the cable the more resistance and hense the signal is degraded more. As for the cable from the TV or satellite these use the stardard coax cable which by designis suppose to eliminate EM radiation outside of the cable so they should not affect your speaker cable
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- mkop   Why does the gauge of speaker wire matter?   Oct 11 2003, 04:12
- - boojum   If you are driving speakers which require much pow...   Oct 11 2003, 04:29
- - TwoJ   I think I have never seen such bending of physical...   Oct 11 2003, 04:38
- - ScorLibran   [reaching back 15 years to my electrical engineeri...   Oct 11 2003, 06:12
- - TwoJ   Right concept but wrong application, sorry ScorLib...   Oct 11 2003, 06:37
- - ScorLibran   QUOTE (TwoJ @ Oct 11 2003, 01:37 AM)Right con...   Oct 11 2003, 06:43
- - AgentMil   QUOTE (ScorLibran @ Oct 11 2003, 01:43 PM)QUO...   Oct 11 2003, 08:02
- - _Shorty   the longer the cable of X gauge is, the higher its...   Oct 11 2003, 08:24
- - JeanLuc   There are three major parameters that influence el...   Oct 11 2003, 10:29
- - boojum   Reading the posts of my learned engineering collea...   Oct 11 2003, 11:18
- - fewtch   Baah... I think I want to try $15,000 speaker...   Oct 11 2003, 12:56
- - Pio2001   Speaker cable blind tests : Placebo at work : htt...   Oct 11 2003, 13:53
- - AgentMil   QUOTE (fewtch @ Oct 11 2003, 07:56 PM)Baah......   Oct 11 2003, 14:06
- - TwoJ   What I think most "real" audiophiles wil...   Oct 11 2003, 16:03
- - JeanLuc   QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Oct 11 2003, 12:53 PM)But I ...   Oct 11 2003, 17:05
- - _Shorty   http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?show...   Oct 11 2003, 18:30
- - sshd   There sure is some interesting information about e...   Oct 12 2003, 00:05
- - adamjk   Pio2001, I'm rather observer, but you're t...   Oct 12 2003, 01:14
- - NeoRenegade   QUOTE (ScorLibran @ Oct 11 2003, 12:12 AM)[re...   Oct 12 2003, 06:03
- - TwoJ   QUOTE However, I noted an interesting thing - ever...   Oct 12 2003, 06:16
- - lucpes   QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Oct 11 2003, 12:53 PM)Say th...   Oct 30 2003, 14:43
- - Dex4now   QUOTE (fewtch @ Oct 11 2003, 03:56 AM)Baah......   Oct 30 2003, 15:07
- - lucpes   Nice I always wondered why the lights in my house...   Oct 30 2003, 15:27
- - fewtch   QUOTE (lucpes @ Oct 30 2003, 07:27 AM)Nice I...   Oct 30 2003, 16:09
- - lucpes   No, conventional drivers but dipole (open baffle) ...   Oct 30 2003, 16:46
- - Pio2001   QUOTE (lucpes @ Oct 30 2003, 02:43 PM)impedan...   Oct 30 2003, 20:07
- - lucpes   QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Oct 30 2003, 07:07 PM)QUOTE ...   Oct 30 2003, 21:50
- - Pio2001   Before starting, how do we know that this is the a...   Oct 31 2003, 00:01
- - lucpes   ABX result of 2xCAT5 cables per polarity (4x8 wire...   Oct 31 2003, 14:00
- - lucpes   QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Oct 30 2003, 11:01 PM)Before...   Oct 31 2003, 15:30
- - Continuum   QUOTE (lucpes @ Oct 31 2003, 03:00 PM)Should ...   Oct 31 2003, 18:32
- - Pio2001   Thank you very much for sharing your results, Lucp...   Oct 31 2003, 20:08
- - lucpes   The offset did not influence the test: ABC HR con...   Oct 31 2003, 20:42
- - ff123   QUOTE (lucpes @ Oct 31 2003, 11:42 AM)The off...   Oct 31 2003, 21:11
- - Continuum   I didn't think that you were hearing the offse...   Oct 31 2003, 21:33
- - lucpes   QUOTE (Continuum @ Oct 31 2003, 08:33 PM)I di...   Oct 31 2003, 21:37
- - Pio2001   So it is quite a big gauge after all. 24 AWG is 0....   Oct 31 2003, 22:50
- - _Shorty   unless it has protection for those situations, man...   Nov 1 2003, 01:54
- - Mike Giacomelli   QUOTE - Although it should be the case - I can tel...   Nov 1 2003, 04:49
- - KikeG   High freq. attenuation of CAT5 cable is quite prob...   Nov 1 2003, 19:31
- - lucpes   QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Oct 31 2003, 09:50 PM)So it ...   Nov 1 2003, 22:04
- - sshd   What type of cat5 cable was used in this test? I...   Nov 2 2003, 00:43
- - lucpes   El cheapo CAT5 solid core type used in the test. ...   Nov 2 2003, 01:24
- - sshd   QUOTE (lucpes @ Nov 1 2003, 10:04 PM)Until th...   Nov 4 2003, 00:24
- - Pio2001   QUOTE (sshd @ Nov 4 2003, 12:24 AM)3. Does th...   Nov 4 2003, 00:37
- - lucpes   QUOTE (sshd @ Nov 3 2003, 11:24 PM)It seems y...   Nov 17 2003, 15:05
- - Pio2001   Sorry to hear about this. Either there was a short...   Nov 17 2003, 23:36
- - lucpes   Phew, I fixed it... turned out that the potentiome...   Nov 18 2003, 13:59


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