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Recording line in with Soundforge, and Audiophile 24/96
evereux
post Aug 10 2003, 10:34
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I'm having a problem recording the output from my CD player through the line in of my soundcard, the Midiman Audiophile (Window's XP).

The problem is distortion. I can't seem to find a way to attenuate the line level input in soundforge and this is causing clipping.

I'm beginning to wonder if this can be removed since during normal playback (through PC) I also get audible clipping, even when the line in is attenuated using Midiman's control panel. I suspect the Midiman doesn't like the output levels of my CD player?

I'm quite sure the input signal itself isn't a problem since playback direct through my amplifier reveals no clipping.

Any ideas?


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AndyH-ha
post Apr 23 2006, 10:53
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No that is incorrect. Some of those that use the Windows mixer may, but genuine audio cards do not have input level adjustments (I don't think any quality audio soundcard does use the Windows mixer). Their control panels only operate in the digital domain, after the signal is digitized. Maybe some of those Creative cards, and their clones, have an analogue adjustment preceding the ADC, but those are hardly considered serious recording devices. Only the most awful of the Creative cards have that nasty compressor/limiter.

No doubt there are one or two professional cards that have some adjustable analogue front-end, to be "the exception that makes the rule", but they are certainly a small minority. Of course this is sort-of different for the microphone inputs on professional soundcards that have microphone preamps in the same box; those operate entirely in the analogue domain and always include a gain control (not an input level control). The same applies to those with included instrument amplifiers. The line level inputs on those same cards are static, not adjustable.

Mixers are the norm in any professional recording setup. I doubt that any professinal or semi-pro card has too little headroom for any normal recording task.
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Pio2001
post Apr 24 2006, 19:43
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I don't follow you.

You are making a distinction between analog and digital volume controls. Does it mean that analog volume control are passive ? If this is the case, then OK, they cannot suffer from clipping. But otherwise, then same problem should arise, shouldn't it ?

QUOTE (AndyH-ha @ Apr 23 2006, 11:53 AM) *
I doubt that any professinal or semi-pro card has too little headroom for any normal recording task.


This precisely what this thread was about. Semi-pro soundcards (Midiman Audiophile, Marian Marc 2) not having enough headroom in order to record the line output of a CD player or a phono preamp fed by a DJ cartridge respectively... Or maybe I'm not following you at all unsure.gif
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- evereux   Recording line in with Soundforge   Aug 10 2003, 10:34
- - Pio2001   The line in level is not in Soundforge, it must be...   Aug 10 2003, 18:01
- - evereux   QUOTE If it is reduced, but is still clipped It i...   Aug 10 2003, 19:25
- - Pio2001   I think the solution is to find the line in record...   Aug 10 2003, 21:40
- - ancl   I have an Audiophile 24/96 myself, and as far as i...   Aug 11 2003, 00:01
- - Pio2001   ¿ WTF ?! I'm not going to get rid of my...   Aug 11 2003, 11:40
- - Brajanath   Hi, I'm new here (just started yesterday), an...   Nov 16 2003, 05:38
- - fewtch   QUOTE (Brajanath @ Nov 15 2003, 09:38 PM)My w...   Nov 16 2003, 08:39
- - Pio2001   QUOTE (Brajanath @ Nov 16 2003, 05:38 AM)Befo...   Nov 16 2003, 16:22
- - Brajanath   Your message is perfectly OK. I have not had the ...   Nov 16 2003, 16:56
- - Pio2001   I don't know... The problem with the cassette ...   Nov 16 2003, 17:10
- - Brajanath   QUOTE (fewtch @ Nov 15 2003, 11:39 PM)Not rea...   Nov 16 2003, 17:20
- - fewtch   QUOTE (Brajanath @ Nov 16 2003, 09:20 AM)QUOT...   Nov 16 2003, 17:53
- - JeanLuc   Of course you can adjust input sensitivity with th...   Nov 16 2003, 18:07
- - fewtch   QUOTE (JeanLuc @ Nov 16 2003, 10:07 AM)Of cou...   Nov 16 2003, 18:16
- - JeanLuc   It is the HW mixer which is situated besides the ...   Nov 16 2003, 18:25
- - Pio2001   QUOTE (fewtch @ Nov 16 2003, 05:53 PM)I don...   Nov 16 2003, 18:50
- - ancl   QUOTE (JeanLuc @ Nov 16 2003, 07:25 PM)It is ...   Nov 16 2003, 18:52
- - JeanLuc   QUOTE (ancl @ Nov 16 2003, 05:52 PM)I guess w...   Nov 16 2003, 18:55
- - ancl   QUOTE (JeanLuc @ Nov 16 2003, 07:55 PM)QUOTE ...   Nov 16 2003, 19:01
- - JeanLuc   QUOTE (ancl @ Nov 16 2003, 06:01 PM)You can, ...   Nov 16 2003, 19:09
- - Brajanath   QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Nov 16 2003, 09:50 AM)QUOTE ...   Nov 16 2003, 22:54
- - fewtch   QUOTE (Brajanath @ Nov 16 2003, 02:54 PM)My o...   Nov 16 2003, 23:22
- - Pio2001   QUOTE (JeanLuc @ Nov 16 2003, 07:09 PM)So I j...   Nov 17 2003, 01:46
- - Kos   Thiis is probably very banale for you in here, but...   Apr 21 2006, 09:56
- - AndyH-ha   I have to admit I have not read this very closely,...   Apr 21 2006, 20:20
|- - Pio2001   QUOTE (AndyH-ha @ Apr 21 2006, 09:20...   Apr 23 2006, 03:26
- - AndyH-ha   No that is incorrect. Some of those that use the W...   Apr 23 2006, 10:53
|- - Pio2001   I don't follow you. You are making a distinct...   Apr 24 2006, 19:43
- - AndyH-ha   Most analogue volume controls are passive. Potenti...   Apr 25 2006, 05:39


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