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jasnic02
post Jul 4 2003, 20:27
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Here's a problem that has really been bugging me. I want to know how everyone else handles capitalization in their file tags and filenames. I have read the guide that cddb suggests, which is different than what musicbrainz.org wants, which is different than what freedb wants, which might all be different to what everyone else wants. I am trying to add this to a perl script that I use for all my encoding and I want to get it right this time!

Do you uppercase the first character in all the words? Do you leave certain words like 'a', 'an', 'the', 'of' lowercase? Any others you leave lowercase? I have looked at English rules for capitalization for song titles and it gets real confusing. For instance, prepositions that are less than five letters long (at, by, for, etc) or lower-case, but only when followed by a noun. How do you script the exeptions for that?

What if the song has the artist 'Featuring' another artist? Or 'With' another artist? Do you append that to the track name instead of the artist field? Do you use the abbreviation 'ft.', 'ft', 'Feat.', 'feat.', 'Feat', 'feat', or 'With', 'with'?

If the disc is part of a 2-disc set do you use (Disc 1) or (Disc 1 of 2) in the album field?

So far, I have been capitalizing all the words .. using 'ft' and appending it to the track title instead of the artist field.

Please let me know how you handle this! There must be some sort of standardization or something that most people go by. If not, there should be!

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CyberInferno
post Oct 29 2003, 23:16
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I believe the "standard" as far as featured artists is concurrent with your intuition, in the song title. I imagine the logic behind this is that if you sort your music by artist, the track stays with it's appropriate main artist. As far as bonus tracks go, I cannot say. It always confuses me when bonus tracks have titles after a freedb query, and multiple freedb submissions have the same bonus track name. They must be listed somewhere.

I have my own question, but I didn't want to revive this thread myself, so thank you for doing so. My question is, how do you treat artists who change their names? I'm not talking about really significant changes, where clearly you would want to use the artist's name on the CD. I'm talking about instances such as "New Found Glory" changing their name from "A New Found Glory" because some music stores listed them under "A" and some listed them under "N," and people were having problems finding the CD's. Their first release, "Nothing Gold Can Stay," was released under "A New Found Glory," but every successive cd reflects the new name. So should I have different artist names even though it's the same artist? The same goes for Blink-182. They've gone on and off with the hyphen and capitalization of "blink" in the name. Here's the progression (as indicated by CD insert and cover):
  • Cheshire Cat - "blink-182" clearly indicated on CD label and cover
  • "Blink 182" (written in all caps through the artwork, but cited as capitalized in the CD insert in the "all songs written by..." portion)
  • Enema of the State - "all songs arranged by blink-182"
  • "The Mark, Tom, and Travis Show (The Enema Strikes Back)" - "blink-182" on CD cover
  • "Take Off Your Pants And Jacket" - "blink-182"
So should I label "Dude Ranch" as "blink-182" (clearly the predominant form), or should I label its insert indicates? And what of NFG? Thanks!

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- jasnic02   Tags And Capitalization Question   Jul 4 2003, 20:27
- - Boredom801   QUOTE (jasnic02 @ Jul 4 2003, 07:27 PM)Here...   Jul 5 2003, 18:03
- - Canar   Probably the best way to do a lot of it is to use ...   Jul 5 2003, 19:22
- - Jebus   I don't use any of those special tags for disc...   Jul 5 2003, 20:12
- - ScorLibran   Here's what I've been doing so far, but my...   Jul 6 2003, 08:10
- - Omni   From my old college textbook (Yes! I still ke...   Jul 6 2003, 08:49
- - Canar   QUOTE (ScorLibran @ Jul 5 2003, 11:10 PM)As f...   Jul 6 2003, 08:49
- - ScorLibran   QUOTE (Canar @ Jul 6 2003, 03:49 AM)However, ...   Jul 6 2003, 13:12
- - MachineHead   I cap everything. Proper it is not, but everything...   Jul 6 2003, 13:45
- - BadHorsie   QUOTE (jasnic02 @ Jul 4 2003, 11:27 AM)Here...   Jul 6 2003, 14:00
- - getID3()   Throwing my tagging variant into the mix: Track t...   Jul 6 2003, 18:33
- - /\/ephaestous   Track titles: - All caps except for a, an, the, of...   Jul 6 2003, 19:42
- - Canar   What would be really nice is a hierarchical listin...   Jul 6 2003, 22:59
- - ScorLibran   Slightly off-topic... Speaking of tags and genres...   Jul 7 2003, 11:16
- - dewey1973   Here is what I do... 1. download info from freed...   Jul 7 2003, 18:37
- - CyberInferno   QUOTE (Omni @ Jul 5 2003, 11:49 PM)For instan...   Jul 7 2003, 18:45
- - jasnic02   Well, this has definitely been helpful for me. I ...   Jul 7 2003, 19:55
- - rpop   Sorry if I missed something or wrote something tha...   Aug 12 2003, 11:16
- - fileman   ... but then you have again to make a decision (is...   Aug 12 2003, 12:28
- - Sebastian Mares   I don't care about standards, so I always capi...   Aug 12 2003, 13:24
- - ScorLibran   Holy thread revival, Batman! This thread take...   Aug 12 2003, 13:40
- - bfourney   I've begun to come across these issues lately ...   Oct 29 2003, 21:09
- - CyberInferno   I believe the "standard" as far as featu...   Oct 29 2003, 23:16
- - sshd   English being my second language I have often wond...   Oct 29 2003, 23:42
- - Pio2001   I capitalize all words exept articles, conjunction...   Oct 30 2003, 00:10
- - sshd   QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Oct 30 2003, 12:10 AM)The pr...   Oct 30 2003, 06:03
- - ScorLibran   My personal methods, which have evolved somewhat f...   Oct 30 2003, 08:43
- - Go2Null   Another revival of this thread I have just st...   Dec 30 2003, 20:05


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