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Soundstage and headphones, Are headphone enthusiasts mistaken in seeking a good soundstage?
moonshot
post Oct 23 2013, 21:22
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I've been helping my teenage nephew choose some headphones. He's been doing some research and has picked up the concept of "soundstage". (The headphone enthusiasts sometimes call it "headstage"). It seems that soundstage is one of the things the headphone enthusiasts seek.

As far as I can see "soundstage" is a term the headphones enthusiasts have taken from loudspeaker enthusiasts who use it to mean the placement of instruments when listening to stereo sound.

Have I misunderstood something because I would guess this "soundstage" is a function of the recording and any subsequent digital encoding rather than a function of the speakers. In other words, the headphones only make a very minor contribution to the soundstage.

In fact, I can understand two loudspeakers needing to be matched in order to match phase but surely this doesn't even apply to headphones?

I am confused! Can anyone kindly explain where the mix up lies.



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- moonshot   Soundstage and headphones   Oct 23 2013, 21:22
- - markanini   *Grabs popcorn*   Oct 23 2013, 21:42
- - extrabigmehdi   QUOTE (moonshot @ Oct 23 2013, 20:22) As ...   Oct 23 2013, 23:12
- - DVDdoug   Soundstage is an illusion and I don't know of ...   Oct 24 2013, 00:01
|- - extrabigmehdi   QUOTE (DVDdoug @ Oct 23 2013, 23:01) What...   Oct 24 2013, 00:48
|- - mzil   QUOTE (DVDdoug @ Oct 23 2013, 16:01) I...   Oct 24 2013, 04:40
|- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (DVDdoug @ Oct 24 2013, 00:01) Soun...   Oct 25 2013, 11:57
- - LithosZA   I have tried lots of headphones and I haven't ...   Oct 24 2013, 07:37
- - Martel   It's possible to significantly reduce the perc...   Oct 24 2013, 11:28
- - cliveb   I don't have anything to say specifically abou...   Oct 24 2013, 14:07
|- - extrabigmehdi   QUOTE (mzil @ Oct 24 2013, 03:40) Just be...   Oct 24 2013, 15:04
- - DVDdoug   I don't perceive a soundstage with headphones....   Oct 24 2013, 18:48
- - extrabigmehdi   QUOTE (DVDdoug @ Oct 24 2013, 17:48) I gu...   Oct 24 2013, 22:15
|- - ErnestS   QUOTE (extrabigmehdi @ Oct 24 2013, 23:15...   Oct 25 2013, 08:17
|- - extrabigmehdi   QUOTE (ErnestS @ Oct 25 2013, 07:17) Frie...   Oct 25 2013, 11:20
||- - ErnestS   @ktf Thanks for the info. QUOTE (extrabigmehdi ...   Oct 25 2013, 12:48
|- - ktf   QUOTE (ErnestS @ Oct 25 2013, 09:17) I wo...   Oct 25 2013, 11:44
- - Mach-X   To discount soundstage as "subjectivist rheto...   Oct 25 2013, 07:00
- - nu774   Try some binaural recording with headphone, for ex...   Oct 25 2013, 08:19
|- - nu774   Oh, kind of duplicates. I should have read previou...   Oct 25 2013, 08:20
- - stephan_g   While obviously no kind of conventional headphones...   Nov 1 2013, 18:11
- - slks   The way I see is is that headphones eliminate phas...   Nov 5 2013, 05:02
- - pdq   If the music has been engineered to sound good wit...   Nov 5 2013, 13:33
|- - extrabigmehdi   QUOTE (pdq @ Nov 5 2013, 12:33) If the mu...   Nov 5 2013, 14:13
- - Martel   Based on my observations, headphones with elevated...   Nov 5 2013, 14:55
|- - extrabigmehdi   QUOTE (Martel @ Nov 5 2013, 13:55) Based ...   Nov 5 2013, 15:54
|- - julf   QUOTE (extrabigmehdi @ Nov 5 2013, 15:54)...   Nov 5 2013, 17:34
|- - extrabigmehdi   QUOTE (julf @ Nov 5 2013, 16:34) QUOTE (e...   Nov 5 2013, 18:06
|- - DVDdoug   Sorry, I'm drifting off topic here - QUOTE (...   Nov 5 2013, 20:49
- - 2Bdecided   At various times in the history of recording, peop...   Nov 5 2013, 15:38
- - Martel   If I remember correctly, it's the lack of damp...   Nov 5 2013, 20:19
|- - extrabigmehdi   QUOTE (Martel @ Nov 5 2013, 19:19) If I r...   Nov 5 2013, 20:36
- - 2Bdecided   Where did you find it on an ordinary CD? I only ev...   Nov 6 2013, 11:22
- - Propheticus   For a realistic sound stage try CD's like -- ...   Nov 8 2013, 13:19
- - thierryj   Have you tried the Bauer stereophonic-to-binaural ...   Dec 14 2013, 15:15
- - includemeout   QUOTE (stephan_g @ Nov 1 2013, 19:11) (.....   Dec 14 2013, 17:26


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