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terataz
post Sep 24 2013, 11:11
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I can't find an audio setup to be in line with my needs.
I need suggestions on a versatile setup. These are my needs:

1) I listen to music 100% from online streaming services. Mainly Spotify Premium, 320kbps OGG
2) I'd like it to use it to listen to movies too trough my TV
3) I'll prefer to have it wireless, so that i can use it from all my devices
4) My budget is 350 euro max

I know i won't get true hifi with this money, but I believe audio systems setups have evolved in the last years and with a little bit of creativity, there's a lot you can get with that money.
I've looked at:

1) http://www.raspyfi.com/ : interesting, but quite a bit of work needed to get a good system up and running (hw and sw)
2) Sonos play 3 + hub: can't connect it to TV + not great sound quality + don't need a multi room setup
3) Bluetooth systems like Onkyo LS-3100: not bad, but lacking a bit on the sound quality side
4) Classic amp+speaker setup: not sure here, as some are lacking digital connections and wifi/BT

Suggestions appreciated

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terataz
post Sep 25 2013, 19:10
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After a bit of research, I'm tempted to go for this kind of setup:

1) Wireless RaspberryPi with xbmc or raspify
2) Cambridge s30 speakers
3) Scythe Kama Bay 2000 Revisione B amp
4) Hifimediy Sabre USB DAC 2

All this will come to around 350 euro and i believe will give me a good starting point for a versatile audio system.
What do you guys think?

@boombaard
Thanks for the suggestion . I had those in mind too. They'll most probably be part of the setup
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post Sep 26 2013, 10:14
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QUOTE (terataz @ Sep 25 2013, 19:10) *
1) Wireless RaspberryPi with xbmc or raspify


You can also get Raspbmc smile.gif
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post Sep 26 2013, 16:09
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QUOTE (probedb @ Sep 26 2013, 11:14) *
You can also get Raspbmc smile.gif

I have dropouts on a Pi running Raspbmc and a DAC from the recommended list of "compatible" DACs. It ran fine for a while, but ever since a software update of raspbmc (which happen frequently), I get dropouts when using the external DAC.

I consider myself somewhat competent in Linux. I tried tweaking quite a few settings, including audio buffer sizes, to no avail. I could reduce glitches substantially, but not eliminate them completely.

Based on my experience, I'd recommend something more powerful. Even a 2 1/2 year old smartphone like the Nexus S scores roughly *three* times as high as a Pi in single-threaded CPU benchmarks. I realize most smartphones won't work unless you got good WiFi coverage and the smartphone has decent line-out quality (or works with external USB DACs). I just wanted to mention this to put the really low performance of the Pi in perspective. Of course, the upside of the Pi is that it has a huge community.

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post Sep 26 2013, 16:53
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I have dropouts on a Pi running Raspbmc and a DAC from the recommended list of "compatible" DACs. It ran fine for a while, but ever since a software update of raspbmc (which happen frequently), I get dropouts when using the external DAC.

I consider myself somewhat competent in Linux. I tried tweaking quite a few settings, including audio buffer sizes, to no avail. I could reduce glitches substantially, but not eliminate them completely.

Based on my experience, I'd recommend something more powerful. Even a 2 1/2 year old smartphone like the Nexus S scores roughly *three* times as high as a Pi in single-threaded CPU benchmarks. I realize most smartphones won't work unless you got good WiFi coverage and the smartphone has decent line-out quality (or works with external USB DACs). I just wanted to mention this to put the really low performance of the Pi in perspective. Of course, the upside of the Pi is that it has a huge community.
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good points, which seem to be addressed with the Raspifi distro, as they write in their project page (http://www.raspyfi.com/project/).

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-Supports almost all DACs
-Bit perfect playback (up to 32bit 192 khrtz)
-Only few process are active, less is more in audio reproduction
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post Sep 28 2013, 09:26
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QUOTE (terataz @ Sep 26 2013, 17:53) *
good points, which seem to be addressed with the Raspifi distro, as they write in their project page (http://www.raspyfi.com/project/).

RaspyFi is based on Raspbian, just like Raspbmc is. I wouldn't be so confident that they fixed audio issues which appear in the underlying Raspbian distro.

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-Supports almost all DACs
-Bit perfect playback (up to 32bit 192 khrtz)
-Only few process are active, less is more in audio reproduction

How does any of the above imply that the point I've made has been addressed by the Raspyfi distro? I mean, I'll test, I have another SD card coming my way, but I'm skeptical. Particularly the last point "only a few process [sic] are active, less is more in audio reproduction" seems highly dubious.

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- terataz   Forward thinking Audio setup   Sep 24 2013, 11:11
- - Apesbrain   Can't you get almost all you need using existi...   Sep 24 2013, 15:51
|- - terataz   QUOTE (Apesbrain @ Sep 24 2013, 16:51) Ca...   Sep 24 2013, 16:15
|- - garym   QUOTE (terataz @ Sep 24 2013, 10:15) I ne...   Sep 24 2013, 17:53
- - DVDdoug   I'll leave the wireless part to others... For...   Sep 24 2013, 19:29
- - Apesbrain   QUOTE (terataz @ Sep 24 2013, 11:15) I ne...   Sep 24 2013, 22:26
- - DigitalMan   Why not just use your smart phone, a phone docking...   Sep 25 2013, 04:23
- - yay101   Whats wrong with a Pi? Or a Cubox? Both can stream...   Sep 25 2013, 09:07
- - Brand   Granted, I haven't done a lot of research rece...   Sep 25 2013, 10:22
|- - garym   QUOTE (Brand @ Sep 25 2013, 04:22) Grante...   Sep 25 2013, 11:58
- - terataz   Thanks guys for all your replies. Couple of point...   Sep 25 2013, 12:16
|- - yay101   QUOTE @yay101: you're correct. that's the ...   Sep 26 2013, 14:22
- - boombaard   If I might offer up a suggestion for a set of spea...   Sep 25 2013, 16:59
- - terataz   After a bit of research, I'm tempted to go for...   Sep 25 2013, 19:10
- - cliveb   QUOTE (terataz @ Sep 25 2013, 19:10) Afte...   Sep 26 2013, 08:22
|- - terataz   QUOTE Has your research included checking whether ...   Sep 26 2013, 10:25
- - probedb   QUOTE (terataz @ Sep 25 2013, 19:10) 1) W...   Sep 26 2013, 10:14
- - aztec_mystic   QUOTE (probedb @ Sep 26 2013, 11:14) You ...   Sep 26 2013, 16:09
- - terataz   I have dropouts on a Pi running Raspbmc and a DAC ...   Sep 26 2013, 16:53
- - aztec_mystic   QUOTE (terataz @ Sep 26 2013, 17:53) good...   Sep 28 2013, 09:26


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