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Archiving vinyl once only 96/24?
matt_a
post Mar 26 2013, 16:11
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Hi All,

I wonder if you can help.
I have recently registered with HA but have been reading the forums for months.
Very interesting and informative.

Being a recovering so called 'audiophile (fool)' I think I have at last found some sense in the real world!
But thats a whole other story for a different thread!

I have a collection of some 2000 LPs that I want to archive to digital.
Now I release that the topics of 44/16 v 96/24 has been widely discussed but just to be clear and please
correct me if Im wrong on any of these points;

- Set the phono amp output to produce a max peak volume just below ADC clipping to maximise ADC coverage?

- 16 bits is more than enough, 24 bits does not produce a more detailed rip?

- Would 24 bits needed if I want to use declicking functions and rumble filters?

- If I always set the ADC input correctly normalisation should not be necessary?

- If tracks do need normalising to say -3db what does 24 bit over 16 bit prodivde?

- The noise floor is not lower with 24 v 16 bits, I dont think I understand the concept properly yet?

- 96K rather than 44K is worth doing for capture as it pushes any anti aliasing well out of the audio band.?

- There is no point in having a final cleaned corrected file greater than 44/16 as there is no audio benefit?

(BTW Im using a great software package called Vinyl Studio!)

Thanks for any comments,
Matthew
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Engelsstaub
post Mar 27 2013, 10:53
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QUOTE (matt_a @ Mar 26 2013, 09:11) *
...BTW Im using a great software package called Vinyl Studio!...


I too can vouch for VinylStudio as a very good all-in-one solution. I also use iZotope RX2 for post-processing, but VinylStudio can do pretty much everything you want to do when transferring vinyl. While both programs are available on Windows and Macintosh, iZotope comes with a steep learning-curve and a high price tag. VinylStudio is pretty easy and costs little.

I can't think of any reason not to record at 24/96 if you have the means to. (Edit: unless, as cliveb said, you are using tools that only work at 16 bit.) You don't have to but why not? If you have the space and your soundcard supports it you can always just archive them as you wish and VinylStudio can make you a good Redbook copy on demand. If it was more involved than that then I think it would make more sense to finalize as 16/44.1 but it's really not. I personally never resample/dither my own needledrops (unless it's going on my iPhone or something) because I have a DVD-A player and usually have spindles of DVD-Rs whereas I rarely have a lot of CD-Rs to spare. That's really not the norm for most people so YMMV. Most people don't own a SACD/DVD-A player, nor do they really need one.

BTW: I don't know if you're working from a laptop or not, but it's not necessary to keep all your files on your primary HDD for VinylStudio. Even 16/44.1 files can accumulate and eat up valuable disc-space on a laptop. I personally save them to an external HDD and import/export the files as needed.

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- matt_a   Archiving vinyl once only 96/24?   Mar 26 2013, 16:11
- - DonP   QUOTE (matt_a @ Mar 26 2013, 10:11) - If ...   Mar 26 2013, 19:18
- - matt_a   Btw I didn't want to prejudice any answers but...   Mar 26 2013, 19:54
- - AndyH-ha   If you are by some means certain of what the peak ...   Mar 26 2013, 20:23
- - Dynamic   On clicking preview, I see AndyH has replied. We v...   Mar 26 2013, 20:37
- - saratoga   I would record at 48k/24 bit, then after processin...   Mar 26 2013, 20:44
- - DVDdoug   My 1st advice is always... Buy the CD, if it...   Mar 26 2013, 21:47
- - matt_a   Thanks for the answers. Im curious though as to w...   Mar 26 2013, 22:01
|- - db1989   QUOTE (matt_a @ Mar 26 2013, 21:01) Im cu...   Mar 26 2013, 22:14
|- - mjb2006   QUOTE (matt_a @ Mar 26 2013, 14:01) I ass...   Mar 27 2013, 04:42
|- - Arnold B. Krueger   QUOTE (matt_a @ Mar 26 2013, 17:01) I...   Mar 29 2013, 18:54
- - matt_a   Sorry DVDdoug your reply beat my next question whi...   Mar 26 2013, 22:12
- - matt_a   Ive just realised something fundamental! Why ...   Mar 26 2013, 22:23
|- - DonP   QUOTE (matt_a @ Mar 26 2013, 16:23) Why a...   Mar 27 2013, 01:36
- - db1989   Either placebo effect and marketers exploiting it,...   Mar 26 2013, 22:31
- - Porcus   QUOTE (matt_a @ Mar 26 2013, 16:11) - 16 ...   Mar 27 2013, 00:10
- - Apesbrain   QUOTE (matt_a @ Mar 26 2013, 17:23) Why a...   Mar 27 2013, 01:29
- - cliveb   You've had lots of good answers. I have just a...   Mar 27 2013, 10:12
|- - mjb2006   QUOTE (cliveb @ Mar 27 2013, 02:12) These...   Mar 27 2013, 12:04
- - Engelsstaub   QUOTE (matt_a @ Mar 26 2013, 09:11) ...BT...   Mar 27 2013, 10:53
- - 2Bdecided   16/44.1 is more than good enough, and has maximum ...   Mar 27 2013, 12:33
- - matt_a   Great Advice!! Ive learnt more from this ...   Mar 27 2013, 15:39
|- - pdq   QUOTE (matt_a @ Mar 27 2013, 10:39) Anoth...   Mar 27 2013, 15:55
|- - db1989   Whilst I agree that another discussion on jitter i...   Mar 27 2013, 16:14
|- - matt_a   Thats a bit rude isnt it? Especially after all the...   Mar 27 2013, 16:51
|- - db1989   QUOTE (matt_a @ Mar 27 2013, 15:51) Thats...   Mar 27 2013, 16:57
|- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (matt_a @ Mar 27 2013, 15:51) Thats...   Mar 27 2013, 17:53
- - greynol   In the context of this discussion, any amount of j...   Mar 27 2013, 16:24
- - greynol   Please don't top-post.   Mar 27 2013, 16:53
- - Mach-X   Indeed perhaps being naive about jitter, and not r...   Mar 27 2013, 16:57
- - matt_a   Quite right, I was too hasty on the keyboard, sorr...   Mar 27 2013, 17:16
- - matt_a   I forgot to mention that its interesting listening...   Mar 27 2013, 17:40
- - matt_a   I have had a really good read through all the FAQ ...   Mar 27 2013, 19:02
- - krabapple   If you're going to sample at higher than Redbo...   Mar 29 2013, 20:42
- - greynol   Sampling and playback at higher rates is (was?) us...   Mar 29 2013, 20:48
|- - DonP   QUOTE (greynol @ Mar 29 2013, 14:48) Samp...   Mar 29 2013, 22:01
- - greynol   Oversampling; sure. I didn't mean to suggest ...   Mar 29 2013, 22:05


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