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mpc support possible in next-gen 20gb player!, yes
adlai
post Jul 27 2004, 13:30
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http://gear.ign.com/articles/518/518971p1.html

here's the key quote

"The PMP-120 is based on the Linux operating system"
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post Jul 27 2004, 13:41
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I hate to be a wet blanket, but just because kernel land is in Linux doesn't mean you can execute your own binaries. sad.gif


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post Jul 28 2004, 02:34
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Right. IIRC, the PhatNoise Jukebox is based on Linux. And that doesn't mean there are custom build firmwares supporting other formats floating around.


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post Jul 28 2004, 13:49
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But we nevertheless always have hope!


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post Aug 2 2004, 22:01
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QUOTE (plunger @ Jul 28 2004, 12:49 PM)
But we nevertheless always have hope!
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The problem is that even if their player is Linux based, there is no guarantee that they will expose the functionality of the hardware in their drivers. They may just be using Linux as a cheaper option to the proprietary embedded operating systems out there.

And it's 100% likely that their software and kernel will rely on bought-in proprietary components, so they couldn't release full compilable source code for their binaries, which are usually statically linked, so you couldn't compile your own plugins anyway.

I'd love an MPC playing hard drive based player, and guarantee I would lay out money on one. But it's gonna take a while.

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post Aug 4 2004, 22:09
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The iPod can run uClinux. Decoding Vorbis on an iPod running uClinux takes about 80% of realtime, with unoptimized Tremor code. Musepack support should be feasible, considering MPC's fast decoding.


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post Aug 5 2004, 01:14
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QUOTE (kjoonlee @ Aug 4 2004, 06:09 PM)
The iPod can run uClinux. Decoding Vorbis on an iPod running uClinux takes about 80% of realtime, with unoptimized Tremor code. Musepack support should be feasible, considering MPC's fast decoding.
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The author already tried, using Peter's decoding library. Wouldn't reach real time either.

I guess that assembly optimization would be imperative in some CPU-consuming parts of the code.


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post Aug 5 2004, 02:22
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Are you sure he used Peter's code and not the old ARM port?


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QUOTE (dev0 @ Aug 4 2004, 10:22 PM)
Are you sure he used Peter's code and not the old ARM port?
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http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....ndpost&p=218583

Last paragraph. "another version that had some assembler code" is the old ARM port.


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