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Grouping albums by various artists, how to?
Bryter
post Mar 28 2010, 12:40
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How do i make an album by various artists appear as a single album? I have added the "Album Artist" column and entered the "%album artist%" in the display field. But when i try to arrange albums that have various artists through this column, they appear next to one another but spread out, and i want them to be grouped. Under the artist field i have the correct name of each artist, and under Album artist i have "Various artists". This works on itunes, but not here on foobar.
Any help?
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post Mar 28 2010, 13:13
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QUOTE (Bryter @ Mar 28 2010, 12:40) *
How do i make an album by various artists appear as a single album? I have added the "Album Artist" column and entered the "%album artist%" in the display field. But when i try to arrange albums that have various artists through this column, they appear next to one another but spread out, and i want them to be grouped. Under the artist field i have the correct name of each artist, and under Album artist i have "Various artists". This works on itunes, but not here on foobar.
Any help?


in the Default user interface in Preferences, Custom Grouping Schemes, add new, fill the pattern as %album% and name whatever.

I use Columns UI so I haven't tested this, but it should work.

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post Mar 28 2010, 13:15
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Make sure you're using %album artist% for the grouping? If no album artist tag is found, this defaults back to %artist%, so it works well.

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post Mar 28 2010, 13:18
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QUOTE (スラッシ @ Mar 28 2010, 13:15) *
Make sure you're using %album artist% for the grouping? If no album artist tag is found, this defaults back to %artist%, so it works well.


Wouldn't that end up grouping many albums of the same album artist together?
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post Mar 28 2010, 13:19
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Yes, I guess so, so you should also add %album%... I forgot that I use 2 groupings on top of eachother, one for %album artist% and one for %album%. Oh and i use CUI but I don't think it really changes much between this and DUI...

I also set it up so that if the %album artist% is Various Artists, it shows the %artist% tag after the title, like this:



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post Mar 28 2010, 13:35
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Cool. I just add a new column, haven't thought of that. I guess I'll just steal it for myself wink.gif

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post Mar 28 2010, 13:48
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Well i dont understand of what you've said so far nothing so far blush.gif
I use Colums UI, and i have set the "Album Artist" column and i have entered the "[%album artist%]" under display. And when i want to arrange albums by album artist, this is how the songs of one compilation look like:

This is one album called "Five years of hyperdub", by different artists. If i tag this as by various artists, then i wont be able to know by whom each song is. This is why i want to arrange them by album artist.

I am new to foobar customizing, so please be as simple as possible.

Thanks

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post Mar 28 2010, 14:12
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First think of some combination of tags that will be the same per album and different when the album changes. Then use it as a group string.
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post Mar 28 2010, 14:30
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QUOTE (herojoker @ Mar 28 2010, 15:12) *
First think of some combination of tags that will be the same per album and different when the album changes. Then use it as a group string.

So i have to make some changes on the albums tags? Not the columns? Well these songs have the same genre, same label, so how could make a combinations so they appear as a group?
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post Mar 28 2010, 14:57
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QUOTE (Bryter @ Mar 28 2010, 14:30) *
QUOTE (herojoker @ Mar 28 2010, 15:12) *
First think of some combination of tags that will be the same per album and different when the album changes. Then use it as a group string.

So i have to make some changes on the albums tags? Not the columns? Well these songs have the same genre, same label, so how could make a combinations so they appear as a group?


Try this:

After that, sort by albums if they're still separated.
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post Mar 28 2010, 15:05
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Bryter, here is how grouping works:
For every single track a string is generated, according to the grouping scheme. Tracks are grouped together if and only if these strings are equal. So the very first task, when you want to get some desired gruoping, is to find out what combination of tags you should use in the grouping scheme such that the grouping is done as you want it. You can do this completely without a computer, assuming your files are properly tagged. After you have found such a tag combination you can formulate the actual grouping scheme.

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post Mar 28 2010, 15:17
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QUOTE (Einherite @ Mar 28 2010, 15:57) *
QUOTE (Bryter @ Mar 28 2010, 14:30) *
QUOTE (herojoker @ Mar 28 2010, 15:12) *
First think of some combination of tags that will be the same per album and different when the album changes. Then use it as a group string.

So i have to make some changes on the albums tags? Not the columns? Well these songs have the same genre, same label, so how could make a combinations so they appear as a group?


Try this:

After that, sort by albums if they're still separated.

YES! This worked perfectly! I arranged them by Album Artist and they are all correctly grouped and arranged.
Thank you so much! biggrin.gif
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post Apr 4 2010, 18:09
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I am having another problem regarding the arrangement of albums. This time its from one artist, and i have chosen to arrange it by artist album. Under grouping i have entered these values: %album artist%[ / %album%][ / %discnumber%]
And this is how the tags look for this album (and the artist album column specifications):


I have entered all the right tags. Yet , it is not showing as a group.
Thanks to anyone who can help.
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post Apr 4 2010, 18:20
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Grouping by discnumber seems to be the problem here.
Also, why would you need an album artist tag for a single artist album?
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post Apr 4 2010, 20:59
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Actually the main main problem was that those songs were not grouped together in the right way in folders (in windows). I grouped them properly, and then removed some unnecessary tags, and now its working properly.
Didn't know that foobar cares how you store the songs on folders...
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post Apr 4 2010, 21:33
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QUOTE (Bryter @ Apr 4 2010, 14:59) *
Didn't know that foobar cares how you store the songs on folders...


It don't cares unless you told it to.
disc one and disc two in your screenshot were unsorted and
you told foobar to display by %discnumber%...
Also the unnecessary tag removing might have had an impact
on your grouping too.

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post Apr 6 2010, 10:47
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Try using %BAND% instead of %album artist%.
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