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foo_discogs, Tags files with information from Discogs
mquander
post Dec 11 2006, 22:40
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The parser screws up on this, but it looks like another weirdo edge case.
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bubbleguuum
post Dec 11 2006, 22:51
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QUOTE (mquander @ Dec 11 2006, 22:40) *
The parser screws up on this, but it looks like another weirdo edge case.


yup another non-standard thing with bold (!) CD names in the middle of no where...yet you can tag it ! remove offending tracks and use the renumber button!! would never have thought this could have been used for this...cool!

I'm working on automatic ANV removal...(ie replace ANV by non-ANV artist names) ...funny stuff!
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post Dec 11 2006, 23:19
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QUOTE (bubbleguuum @ Dec 11 2006, 16:51) *
QUOTE (mquander @ Dec 11 2006, 22:40) *

The parser screws up on this, but it looks like another weirdo edge case.


yup another non-standard thing with bold (!) CD names in the middle of no where...yet you can tag it ! remove offending tracks and use the renumber button!! would never have thought this could have been used for this...cool!

I'm working on automatic ANV removal...(ie replace ANV by non-ANV artist names) ...funny stuff!


Yep - so far all the weird failure data has been gracefully handled, which is great!
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mquander
post Dec 12 2006, 00:58
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Occasionally on releases with multiple catalog numbers, there is an extra space preceding the second catalog number. This is an example: tags are written "GUN 230 B" and " 82876 75177 2" (note the space.)
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Ronny Pries
post Dec 12 2006, 01:23
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hey bubblegum,

can you leave an option to write the tracknumbers in vinyl side (a1, a2, b1 etc) fashion ? thx a lot!!

ronny

ps: you've gotta check out the new stephen brown / subject scotland!

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mquander
post Dec 12 2006, 01:56
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QUOTE (Ronny Pries @ Dec 11 2006, 19:23) *
hey bubblegum,

can you leave an option to write the tracknumbers in vinyl side (a1, a2, b1 etc) fashion ? thx a lot!!

ronny

ps: you've gotta check out the new stephen brown / subject scotland!


Why can't you do that with the plugin as-is? Just set the vinyl track field to "TRACKNUMBER" and disable the track number field.
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Ronny Pries
post Dec 12 2006, 12:30
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QUOTE (mquander @ Dec 12 2006, 01:56) *
Why can't you do that with the plugin as-is? Just set the vinyl track field to "TRACKNUMBER" and disable the track number field.


oh yeah, there it is - i went over it... jeez.

the stephen brown recommendation is still valid nevertheless wink.gif

ronny

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mquander
post Dec 12 2006, 15:43
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You include the (2) in the name of labels like this, although I'm not sure you shouldn't. You drop it for artists though so you probably want to drop it here.
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bubbleguuum
post Dec 13 2006, 00:02
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QUOTE (mquander @ Dec 12 2006, 00:58) *
Occasionally on releases with multiple catalog numbers, there is an extra space preceding the second catalog number. This is an example: tags are written "GUN 230 B" and " 82876 75177 2" (note the space.)


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QUOTE (mquander @ Dec 12 2006, 15:43) *
You include the (2) in the name of labels like this, although I'm not sure you shouldn't. You drop it for artists though so you probably want to drop it here.


fixed
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gob
post Dec 13 2006, 00:11
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can this component find and tag files that are live based on the album they are on?

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post Dec 13 2006, 00:27
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QUOTE (gob @ Dec 13 2006, 00:11) *
can this component find and tag files that are live based on the album they are on?


I don't understand what you mean !
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post Dec 13 2006, 13:57
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QUOTE (bubbleguuum @ Dec 13 2006, 00:27) *
QUOTE (gob @ Dec 13 2006, 00:11) *

can this component find and tag files that are live based on the album they are on?


I don't understand what you mean !


I think not to search by id but by album tag. Would be nice and would save much time.


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stampgevaar
post Dec 13 2006, 15:06
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seems like a good idea but keep the id thing in case the album tag is not right.

And the search should be done by google on the discogs site this because the discogs search engine never finds what I want and google does. Maybe I'm the only one with this problem? I don't know...
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post Dec 13 2006, 15:09
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QUOTE (bubbleguuum @ Dec 11 2006, 20:56) *
Now I have a question for you people. If foo_discogs could use foo_custominfo to store tags (customizable per tag) would you use that ? for which use scenario and which tags ?

I prefer to write everything to tags. If you move the files around you lose all custom info.


QUOTE (q-stankovic @ Dec 13 2006, 14:57) *
I think not to search by id but by album tag. Would be nice and would save much time.

Discogs is quite large database and there are often many releases of same album, which makes searching by name inaccurate and slower.
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2Pacalypse
post Dec 13 2006, 15:47
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QUOTE (stampgevaar @ Dec 13 2006, 14:06) *
seems like a good idea but keep the id thing in case the album tag is not right.

And the search should be done by google on the discogs site this because the discogs search engine never finds what I want and google does. Maybe I'm the only one with this problem? I don't know...


+1

it would be nice to auto search from %album% / %album% & %artist% tags

Also agree that google is a better option eg "discogs %artist% %album%"
and yes also keep the manual entry of release id in case it doesnt find it
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mquander
post Dec 13 2006, 16:25
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I have no problem with the discogs search (I've never not been able to find something with it, that is) and searching by album name is ridiculous. There are often 10-12 releases of the same album on different labels, with different tracks, in different countries, and at different times.
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post Dec 13 2006, 16:59
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QUOTE (mquander @ Dec 13 2006, 16:25) *
I have no problem with the discogs search (I've never not been able to find something with it, that is) and searching by album name is ridiculous. There are often 10-12 releases of the same album on different labels, with different tracks, in different countries, and at different times.


that depends on what genre of music you listen in my favorite genre this is not the case and almost al cds that come out are compilations which have dedicated names so double entries are very rare. problem is that discogs can't find these very good so in your case it is ridiculous but in my case it's very logic.

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2Pacalypse
post Dec 13 2006, 17:30
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QUOTE (mquander @ Dec 13 2006, 15:25) *
I have no problem with the discogs search (I've never not been able to find something with it, that is) and searching by album name is ridiculous. There are often 10-12 releases of the same album on different labels, with different tracks, in different countries, and at different times.


im not suggesting get rid of the manual id release, but how are you supposed to tag your complete library? by manually searching it would take forever!

it would be great like the old freedb where it auto searched but also had the option to manual search
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post Dec 13 2006, 17:42
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some sort of sloppy auto search would be nice. maybe it could search for an album with the same album name, the same artist name, and the same number of tracks? then it could just pick the first one. you could then 'review' it's choice or you could set it up in fully auto mode and just let it run. maybe even custom search strings, like if you already know the label or something it could filter it with that too.

yea itd be sloppy, and yer mp3s might be labelled as UK instead of US, but it would get most of the tags (artist, track, album, art) right for most people.
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post Dec 13 2006, 17:46
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QUOTE (NogginJ @ Dec 13 2006, 17:42) *
some sort of sloppy auto search would be nice. maybe it could search for an album with the same album name, the same artist name, and the same number of tracks? then it could just pick the first one. you could then 'review' it's choice or you could set it up in fully auto mode and just let it run. maybe even custom search strings, like if you already know the label or something it could filter it with that too.

yea itd be sloppy, and yer mp3s might be labelled as UK instead of US, but it would get most of the tags (artist, track, album, art) right for most people.


I was thinking the same thing, just something that searches for album / artist name and then you can select the album you want from the search results. And maybe hyperlinks in every result so when you click it you can see if it's the album that you want just to be sure.
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mquander
post Dec 13 2006, 17:50
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QUOTE (2Pacalypse @ Dec 13 2006, 11:30) *
QUOTE (mquander @ Dec 13 2006, 15:25) *

I have no problem with the discogs search (I've never not been able to find something with it, that is) and searching by album name is ridiculous. There are often 10-12 releases of the same album on different labels, with different tracks, in different countries, and at different times.


im not suggesting get rid of the manual id release, but how are you supposed to tag your complete library? by manually searching it would take forever!

it would be great like the old freedb where it auto searched but also had the option to manual search


I have about 600 albums, 5000 tracks, and I did it already. It took about four hours all told, which is a pain in the ass, but you only have to do it once. I wrote a foo_run script to launch a discogs search for each album, then I look at the releases, check the different releases, go to the one I want, copy and paste the release ID. Fifteen seconds.

With a bit of work, you could certainly have a preview window like I described in this post, but that's not really very much faster, and there's no way you could automate the whole process of getting a release ID without having it fuck up and get the wrong release one time out of three.

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post Dec 13 2006, 18:15
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QUOTE (mquander @ Dec 13 2006, 16:50) *
QUOTE (stampgevaar @ Dec 13 2006, 10:59) *

QUOTE (mquander @ Dec 13 2006, 16:25) *

I have no problem with the discogs search (I've never not been able to find something with it, that is) and searching by album name is ridiculous. There are often 10-12 releases of the same album on different labels, with different tracks, in different countries, and at different times.


that depends on what genre of music you listen in my favorite genre this is not the case and almost al cds that come out are compilations which have dedicated names so double entries are very rare. problem is that discogs can't find these very good so in your case it is ridiculous but in my case it's very logic.


I have about 600 albums, 5000 tracks, and I did it already. It took about four hours all told, which is a pain in the ass, but you only have to do it once. I wrote a foo_run script to launch a discogs search for each album, then I look at the releases, check the different releases, go to the one I want, copy and paste the release ID. Fifteen seconds.


i listen to a lot of hip-hop which means that a lot of tracks feature other artists.
Hopefully the featuring on discogs will be added to the mapping in a future release then i will tag my complete library.

@mquander - i followed your link to your previous post, its a good idea! Would it not be feasible for those releases found to be added to a drop down menu with a preview button and be used like in freedb where you could see how it looks?

Edit - Small request, when tracks are selected in the discogs plugin window can you map the 'del' key to remove the tracks (same as the button, i just naturally hit del)

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post Dec 13 2006, 20:15
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QUOTE (mquander @ Dec 13 2006, 17:50) *
and there's no way you could automate the whole process of getting a release ID without having it fuck up and get the wrong release one time out of three.


That's pretty much my opininon and that's why I'm not very motivated to do a search interface.
I'll probably do it though since people expect it. It's much more reliable to use a web browser to find the good id, IMHO.

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post Dec 13 2006, 22:12
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I have a request for a feature...
I want to see the size of the image (width and height) and/or a simple preview window of the whole image (so I can see the quality of it).
But if it's too hard to do forget it =)
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post Dec 13 2006, 22:20
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I just tagged my first record label with the plugin it was still a lot faster than manual but couldn't you make it possible to paste the intire url in the discogs release id box this because selecting it everytime again drives me crazy
so: http://www.discogs.com/release/63894 instead of 63894 or both is also fine. it don't think the url changes after release/ I don't know actually but if it's possible please do it. for one album it wouldn't matter but for 1000 it does and it saves up a lot of time and it's also a bit out of lazyness...

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