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The LAME usage poll (3.97 only), this should be interesting
The LAME usage poll
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Cosmo
post Jun 12 2006, 17:13
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LAME usage? I use cbr, abr, and vbr, from low to high br, depending upon the purpose.
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post Jun 12 2006, 17:15
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QUOTE (LaserSokrates @ Jun 12 2006, 17:57) *
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jstereo

omg y u wanna destroy stereo ???

You forgot to put the <sarcasm> tag.
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jmartis
post Jun 12 2006, 18:02
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QUOTE (LaserSokrates @ Jun 12 2006, 17:57) *
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omg y u wanna destroy stereo ???

blink.gif who said that Joint Stereo destroys stereo (at least in Lame)???

edit: oops, missed the second page, it was already mentioned.......

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LaserSokrates
post Jun 12 2006, 19:22
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QUOTE (Lyx)
You forgot to put the <sarcasm> tag.

Sorry, I thougt it'd be obvious enough. Here you go:
<sarcasm> </sarcasm>
Just put these in my first post where you think they're appropriate wink.gif.

Edit: messed up the quotebox.

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post Jun 12 2006, 20:22
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High bitrate (V2 --vbr-new).

I only have one set of MP3 files that I listen to both indoors over stereo equipment and outdoors on my iPod. I have a laptop, and I don't have enough internal storage right now to justify keeping my lossless files on there, so I leave those archived on an external hard drive and backed up to DVD-R and just use the MP3 files. Because I want the sound quality to hold up in many different listening environments, I just go for V2 --vbr-new.
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post Jun 12 2006, 21:34
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with an average bitrate of ~190kbps -V2 --vbr-new is a no brainer for me smile.gif


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post Jun 13 2006, 00:14
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When I use MP3 I tend to use -V2 --vbr-new the most however I've used the entire -V3 through -V5 range as well depending on the purpose.


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post Jun 13 2006, 15:00
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-V4 --vbr-new in general;
-V3 --vbr-new if -V4 is not enough;

(and aoTuV -q5 if even that's not enough).


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post Jun 13 2006, 16:26
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-V5 --vbr-new --athaa-sensititvity 1 with 3.98a3.

--athaa-sensitivity lowers the ringing issues occuring on quiet moments
3.98a corrects the "rumbling" (or "sandpaper noise") audible mostly on tonal moments
V5 keeps the bitrate on a friendly basis for a portable player with limited storage capavity

=> average bitrate = 130...135 kbps and sound quality is near excellent on my MP3 player (a bit less enjoying at home with better headphones). Only disapointment: stronger distortions on (solo) harpsichord.
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post Jun 13 2006, 16:42
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V0 --vbr-new as a substitute for lossless (The flacs stay archived on DVDs). I find it perfect for nearly all of classical music.
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post Jun 13 2006, 17:06
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QUOTE (guruboolez @ Jun 13 2006, 11:26) *
-V5 --vbr-new --athaa-sensititvity 1 with 3.98a3.

--athaa-sensitivity lowers the ringing issues occuring on quiet moments
3.98a corrects the "rumbling" (or "sandpaper noise") audible mostly on tonal moments
V5 keeps the bitrate on a friendly basis for a portable player with limited storage capavity

=> average bitrate = 130...135 kbps and sound quality is near excellent on my MP3 player (a bit less enjoying at home with better headphones). Only disapointment: stronger distortions on (solo) harpsichord.


"-V5 --vbr-new --athaa-sensititvity 1"
is that now default for -V5 in 3.98a4 ?
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post Jun 13 2006, 17:53
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If size is a factor, I use anything from -V 5 -h --vbr-new to -V 2 -h -Y --vbr-new. If size isn't a factor, I use -b 320 -h or -V 0 -h --vbr-new. -V 2 -h --vbr-new and -V 1 -h --vbr-new don't have much practical use for me, because they're overkill when size is a factor and not the best I can use when it isn't.
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post Jun 13 2006, 23:44
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--preset medium --vbr-new
I don't really know what that preset refers to, but I think it's the same as -V 4 --vbr-new.


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post Jun 15 2006, 03:17
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QUOTE (guruboolez @ Jun 13 2006, 08:26) *
-V5 --vbr-new --athaa-sensititvity 1 with 3.98a3.

• --athaa-sensitivity lowers the ringing issues occuring on quiet moments
• 3.98a corrects the "rumbling" (or "sandpaper noise") audible mostly on tonal moments
• V5 keeps the bitrate on a friendly basis for a portable player with limited storage capavity

=> average bitrate = 130...135 kbps and sound quality is near excellent on my MP3 player (a bit less enjoying at home with better headphones). Only disapointment: stronger distortions on (solo) harpsichord.

Damn, if -V5 --vbr-new --athaa-sensititvity 1 with 3.98a3 is good enough for guru, then it's good enough for me!

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"-V5 --vbr-new --athaa-sensititvity 1"
is that now default for -V5 in 3.98a4 ?

Good question...

EDIT: No, --athaa-sensititvity 1 is not default in 3.98a4. -V 5 --vbr-new with and without the athaa switch produces different filesizes by a few kb (larger with --athaa-sensititvity 1).

And look! the same typo five times!

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post Jun 15 2006, 03:39
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QUOTE (BobO @ Jun 12 2006, 09:57) *
-V1 -- vbrnew

... for just that extra measure of quality assurance. It's purely psychological, I know, but what's a few MB more overall for peace of mind? smile.gif



I wouldn't say that V1 is purely psychological... With bit rates of ~210kbps, they aren't quite 320kbps CBR, but are certainly a good bit ahead of V3-V5:

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post Jun 16 2006, 01:32
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i wonder how many of the "-V 0 --vbr-new... -V 2 --vbr-new" can ABX -V4 or even -V5 (i can't)

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post Jun 16 2006, 04:54
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-V2 --vbr new. Surprisingly, there is a HUGE difference to my ears between V2 and V3 for MP3s ripped to CD and played on my car stereo. V3 does not sound good at all while V2 sounds great. On the iPod, V3 sounds better - but still use V2 as it works for all devices I listen to music on and don't want 2 sets of MP3s in my library.
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post Jun 16 2006, 05:30
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-V2 --vbr-new for music
-V7 --vbr-new for audiobooks
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post Jun 16 2006, 05:37
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I Use in 99% of cases 256 or 320 with stereo.If the result is not enough to me in 256,320. I don't worry about the space utilized , I will just worry about space if I was wearing a lossless. And reading the problem with some samples I put more thrusth in this values in CBR rolleyes.gif .I just wear VBr when i want to hear mp3' in portables(-V4 --vbr-new -b96 -ms -h).But I just use this values 'cause the problem with the samples, I have a lot of musics with samples like those crying.gif and I like so much of VBR but the problem of artifacts with these samples make me angry. mad.gif
I use the following versions for encode:3.90.3(rarely), 3.97b2(i wear this version in 99% of musics) and the newest 3.98a4(rarely) rolleyes.gif
I re-edited this 'cause an error "i wear them in 99% of musics" when the correct is "i wear this version in 99 % of musics",and put rarely infront of the coment of the 2 other versions 'cause i rarely use them,especially the 3.98a4 i use this just for problematic samples like those and when this version give more quality.

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post Jun 16 2006, 06:33
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QUOTE (ezra2323 @ Jun 15 2006, 20:54) *
-V2 --vbr new. Surprisingly, there is a HUGE difference to my ears between V2 and V3 for MP3s ripped to CD and played on my car stereo. V3 does not sound good at all while V2 sounds great. On the iPod, V3 sounds better - but still use V2 as it works for all devices I listen to music on and don't want 2 sets of MP3s in my library.

So on your car -V 2 sounds a lot better than than -V 3, but on your iPod -V 3 is better?


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post Jun 16 2006, 08:06
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Used -Aps then -preset fast medium in 3.90.3.. then -V4 in 3.96/97 now messing around with -V5 --vbr-new which sounds okay too.

Lame has been good in middle bitrates (140~170k vbr or abr) for many years and recently 135k has become quite usable.

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post Jun 16 2006, 13:31
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QUOTE (ezra2323 @ Jun 16 2006, 03:54) *
Surprisingly, there is a HUGE difference to my ears between V2 and V3 for MP3s ripped to CD and played on my car stereo.

so, you abx, or is your "feeling"?

QUOTE (Diow @ Jun 16 2006, 04:37) *
But I just use this values 'cause the problem with the samples, I have a lot of musics with samples like those crying.gif and I like so much of VBR but the problem of artifacts with these samples make me angry. mad.gif
I use the following versions for encode:3.90.3, 3.97b2(i wear them in 99% of musics) and the newest 3.98a4 rolleyes.gif

again, is abx or just your feeling?


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post Jun 16 2006, 14:10
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-V5 --vbr-new

only listening to this in car stereo via 1 GB usb-stick
or via Koss KSC 75 during running outdoors.

I can abx -V5 easily without headphones in hifi environment,
so there I play Lossless or MPC quality 7-8, ie. 220k vbr and higher.

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QUOTE (user @ Jun 16 2006, 13:10) *
Mareo.exe via eac is a great tool !

glad is useful for you.


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post Jun 16 2006, 15:32
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V0 VBR , because I listen to my music at home mostly, I don't have a car and don't like headphones.
So when I listen to mp3 I go for the quality since size isn't a big issue to me.
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