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List of recommended MPC settings
Digisurfer
post Oct 14 2004, 14:14
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QUOTE (CiTay @ Oct 14 2004, 05:23 AM)
I'll post what Frank told me three days ago, but it's not good news (at least for MPC). He says, he has no time for programming at the moment, because there's training for sales and distribution of a new Advanced Imaging Microscopy device at his workplace and he gets home late at night each day. I'll ask him for news every now and then and will report back when there's any about MPC.
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Oooh, that's unfortunate. Well, for us anyways. MPC is such a great format, and I'm actually considering switching to it from lossless. I was considering OptimFrog and WavPack at around 400k to 450k since that would be a decent choice should I ever need to transcode lower (to, for example, a portable), but then the thought popped in my head that if I'm going to go lossy in order to save space, I might as well take it as far as I can. And that would mean MPC IMHO, though I still need to do more transcode tests to be sure. Anyways, don't want to convert anything with 1.14 or 1.15r, so I guess it will have to wait. I don't mind though, real life must always come first and foremost. Hmm, maybe I should donate. Is there a PayPal button somewhere to do so?
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post Oct 14 2004, 14:47
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QUOTE (Digisurfer @ Oct 14 2004, 03:14 PM)
Hmm, maybe I should donate. Is there a PayPal button somewhere to do so?
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We already had a donation, and from that money i built him a new PC and ChristianHJW delivered it to him. Because originally, he didn't even have a good development machine and he didn't have time/notion to build one. But since then, his job occupied most of his time and he didn't get around doing e.g. a final SV7 version. It's an unfortunate situation really, and i wish i could do something about it. But all we can do is wait.

But you can use both 1.14 or 1.15r, they are pretty much tried and tested now. There wouldn't be any bigger changes to quality with a final SV7 anyway. It would mostly fix some quite rare bugs and have some usablility improvements, i guess.
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post Oct 14 2004, 17:55
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QUOTE (CiTay @ Oct 14 2004, 03:47 PM)
It's an unfortunate situation really, and i wish i could do something about it. But all we can do is wait.
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Innocent question: is there no other sound compression guru in the ha.org community, or even in the world, that can take the flag ? After all, that's also what open source is for... A one-manned open-source project is bound to fade away sooner or later...
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post Oct 23 2004, 02:45
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QUOTE (Digisurfer @ Oct 13 2004, 08:12 PM)
Has the light at the end of the tunnel grown any? 1.15r seems to be practically the recommended version, even though technically it's not. Would be nice to see something final soon that didn't have the experimental tag. Don't want to use 1.14 either for obvious reasons.
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1.14 doesent give a experimental in tag as 1.15 do,but regardles,my question is that i always rip cds with eac to mpc 1.14b.Where did you find info that 1.15 is better?I simply asking couse in that case i nwould switch to 1.15.I really dont care about that small experimental "glitch"in the tag,so if you know any thread which compare 1.14 and 1.15,please post.I tryed search but nothing good come out..
Or somebody else who tested 1.14 and 1.15>>if he can share his opinion what should be used for encoding,which version i mean..
Thanks in advance!! smile.gif
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post Oct 24 2004, 02:05
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QUOTE (zver @ Oct 22 2004, 07:45 PM)
Where did you find info that 1.15 is better?

On the musepack.net site it claims that 1.15r "has less problems with highly tonal music compared to 1.14". I know I've seen mention regarding better handling of the higher frequencies as well, but it was a while ago and can't remember where exactly. Perhaps a search might turn up something useful, though I'm not 100% sure if what I read was here or not. Hopefully someone more knowledgable in the ways of MPC will post with the info you desire. wink.gif
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post Oct 24 2004, 03:13
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1.15 has a modified tonal estimation model to cope better with samples like 'amnesia'. Quality of 1.15 and 1.14 is similar - some music might be better on 1.15 and vice versa. 1.15r files are +3% larger than 1.14


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post Oct 24 2004, 07:31
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Thanks.I did a small test with a few files using q5 and all files come out a bit bigger,but really small difference just as you said like difference was 196 to 189kbps.Thanks for clariffication smile.gif
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post Nov 24 2004, 13:02
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Great reason today to edit n update the List !
1.15s is out with some bugfixes, and hardcoded --xlevel switch.

The settings recommend adding --xlevel, because of 1.14 beta/stable.
Would this adding hurt 1.15s encodings ?
Will try it later myself.


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post Nov 24 2004, 13:40
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post Nov 24 2004, 13:41
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QUOTE (user @ Nov 24 2004, 02:02 PM)
The settings recommend adding --xlevel, because of 1.14 beta/stable.
Would this adding hurt 1.15s encodings ?
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No.
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post Nov 29 2004, 16:14
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Is there a switch to produce mono files from stereo input?
Not listed in otherwise excellent --longhelp, nor on http://www.musepack.net.
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post Dec 2 2004, 21:07
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The link for mpcenc 1.15s seems to be broken. Any help, Case?
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post Dec 2 2004, 22:21
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Link fixed.
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post Jan 11 2005, 22:18
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The link to 1.15s is broken again. The correct would be:
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http://files.musepack.net/windows/encoder/mppenc-windows-1.15s.zip
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post Jan 11 2005, 22:40
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Also information on the Winamp plugin is outdated. Latest version is 0.99f and the link should be:
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http://www.saunalahti.fi/cse/mpc/bin/in_mpc_0.99f.exe
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post Jan 12 2005, 12:30
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Thanks, all fixed.
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post Jan 29 2005, 02:43
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Following the release of mppenc 1.15t, that encoder is now the new recommended version.

Also, --xlevel has been removed from the command lines, since it's a default setting since mppenc 1.15s.
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post Jan 29 2005, 04:39
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QUOTE (CiTay @ Jan 29 2005, 01:43 PM)
Following the release of mppenc 1.15t, that encoder is now the new recommended version.

Also, --xlevel has been removed from the command lines, since it's a default setting since mppenc 1.15s.
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I think you should mention that the latest stable release does require the xlevel switch to have some clipping prevention.
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post Jan 29 2005, 08:52
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it's now default

a noxlevel toggle is added for the delirious


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post Jan 29 2005, 09:21
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QUOTE (xmixahlx @ Jan 29 2005, 07:52 PM)
it's now default

a noxlevel toggle is added for the delirious


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So 1.1 & 1.14b are now preset with xlevel as well?

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post Jan 29 2005, 14:52
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QUOTE (westgroveg @ Jan 29 2005, 09:21 AM)
So 1.1 & 1.14b are now preset with xlevel as well?
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No. And you're right, i'll state that more explicitly.
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post Feb 26 2005, 00:52
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exchanged recommended mpc encoder to 1.15u.
haven't tested myself yet, but it sounds very promising, that recent little bugs are fixed ! mpc is da greatest:)


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post Feb 26 2005, 01:55
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QUOTE (user @ Feb 26 2005, 12:52 AM)
exchanged recommended mpc encoder to 1.15u.
haven't tested myself yet, but it sounds very promising, that recent little bugs are fixed ! mpc is da greatest:)
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Thanks (would've done it myself otherwise). It has been tested by the development team, and a mail from Frank Klemm today verified that the rare gapless issue was fixed the right way.

Again, 1.15u, despite still having an "alpha" designation, is now recommended over the previous versions including 1.14 beta.
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post Mar 18 2005, 21:10
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New recommended encoder version: mppenc 1.15v

1.15v thread

The 1.15 alpha codebase has proven itself. With the recent bugfixes, even 1.14 hardliners should consider using the latest 1.15 encoder now. wink.gif
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post Nov 26 2005, 04:34
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the links to the zips in the first post seem to be dead

error msg
The requested URL /files/windows/encoder/mppenc-windows-1.15v.zip was not found on
this server

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