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Music Playback on Android

any recommended player to play lossless on my android phone...and recommended settings to achieve perfect quality ?

Music Playback on Android

Reply #1 –
I like the stock Google Play Music app, although beware that you must load flac files via USB to keep them lossless, uploading them to the cloud results in high-bitrate MP3 transcodes being downloaded to your phone (I suppose to save bandwidth).

Music Playback on Android

Reply #2 –
I don't use lossless on the phone.
What I use the most is the included player (I believe it is Samsung's player). mp3, mp4 and ogg are supported.
I also have installed a version of rockbox that works (they don't really support android, and doesn't work in android 5, but there is a port that has to be manually installed:  http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/AndroidPort http://rasher.dk/rockbox/android/ ).

I also brieflly used deadbeef , which should support it, but it is adware.

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Reply #3 –
Space is not a problem..my pc library is in original flac..i converted them using foobar with these settings:
Flac compression @ level 8
Sox resample @ 48khz
Sampling Bit depth @24 bit
If any of these settings are wrong..feel free to correct 

My current player is poweramp and im using the extremeBeats mod + Viper4android...

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Reply #4 –
Any way of increasing volune without distorting in the flac  files?

Music Playback on Android

Reply #5 –
Resampling flac files kind of defeats the purpose of using lossless so I'd probably not do that.

Usually music is mastered with the volume just below max.

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Reply #6 –
I have a Samsung galaxy 4 7" tablet and use "PowerAmp" for playback and find it excellent.  It plays pretty well any type of file including those created by iTunes.  Has a nice handy 10 band equalizer and it can increase the volume output by around 10db or so.  I tried it out for awhile and then paid the five or so bucks for the full version.  Works just fine for me, though I am sure there must be other apps out there that are as good or better and of course tastes vary.

Aided by the PowerAmp app there is plenty of full frequency volume available for my BOSE QC25 headphones, including in the deep bass with a boost from the equalizer.  I imagine it will power most phones perfectly well as will almost any other tablet or phone these days.
Ed Seedhouse
VA7SDH

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Reply #7 –
I've kinda given up on Poweramp.. It STILL doesn't support Opus which is inexcusable at this point and reading the forums shows he's been promising it for almost 3 years with no real evidence that delivery is anywhere on the horizon.

Music Playback on Android

Reply #8 –
You can also use the popular MX Player app. I transitioned to MX from Google music about a month ago and I really enjoy it. It does support embedded covers too, so you conveniently avoid the auto downloaded, low res, behind the scenes cover matching, many other players seem to abide by.

Music Playback on Android

Reply #9 –
Quote from: yourlord on
I've kinda given up on Poweramp.. It STILL doesn't support Opus which is inexcusable at this point and reading the forums shows he's been promising it for almost 3 years with no real evidence that delivery is anywhere on the horizon.


Well you may be right.  I don't even know what "Opus" is other than a work of music or a cartoon penguin and I haven't come across it and so it doesn't bother me.
Ed Seedhouse
VA7SDH

Music Playback on Android

Reply #10 –
opus is lossy but if u want a music player supporting opus try to AIMP.

Music Playback on Android

Reply #11 –
Anyway what should be replay Gain Values? positive or negative ?

Music Playback on Android

Reply #12 –
Quote from: frostraven13 on
Anyway what should be replay Gain Values? positive or negative ?


I don't understand this question.  Values are positive if the track is quiet, negative if it is loud.

Music Playback on Android

Reply #13 –
Therefore if my tracks are loud..then the replay gain is decreasing its volume? because all my tracks got negative values when i scan their replay gain info

Music Playback on Android

Reply #14 –
Yes.

Music Playback on Android

Reply #15 –
Quote from: yourlord on
I've kinda given up on Poweramp..

Me, too. I feel the dev considers the project as a cash cow at this point.

E.g., for years, there has been an issue with embedded art in Ogg Vorbis files not being displayed. Numerous bug reports were filed. Forum threads about the issue came up semi-regularly. Still, they never bothered to fix it (even though I don't think it would be very time-consuming to fix this bug).

Music Playback on Android

Reply #16 –
Quote from: audiophool on
Quote from: yourlord on
I've kinda given up on Poweramp..

Me, too. I feel the dev considers the project as a cash cow at this point.

E.g., for years, there has been an issue with embedded art in Ogg Vorbis files not being displayed. Numerous bug reports were filed. Forum threads about the issue came up semi-regularly. Still, they never bothered to fix it (even though I don't think it would be very time-consuming to fix this bug).


Well, I believe it cost me five bucks or so.  I don't expect money like that drives a big development team, and I don't expect the kind of support I expect for programs that cost hundreds of bucks.

It does what I need.  It's pretty easy to use, at least on my notepad.

No reason why you should like it, and as they say YMMV.
Ed Seedhouse
VA7SDH

Music Playback on Android

Reply #17 –
Quote from: audiophool on
Quote from: yourlord on
I've kinda given up on Poweramp..

Me, too. I feel the dev considers the project as a cash cow at this point.

E.g., for years, there has been an issue with embedded art in Ogg Vorbis files not being displayed. Numerous bug reports were filed. Forum threads about the issue came up semi-regularly. Still, they never bothered to fix it (even though I don't think it would be very time-consuming to fix this bug).


Embedded image support is not very good in the embedded Vorbis decoders.  Probably if it doesn't work in the library they're using, they're not going to rewrite the Ogg parser to fix it.

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Reply #18 –
I highly recommend GoneMAD Music Player
- It supports a wide range of formats (including Opus, Flac, Alac, aac/mp4, mp3, vorbis, mpc ++)
- It's highly customizable (playing info, themes ++)
- It have a built in EQ. Or you could use a external one (Viper4Android etc.) if you like
- The developer is open for ideas (He implemented .webp album art on my request  ), and is fast to reply if you find any bugs

Quote
..and recommended settings to achieve perfect quality

This one is highly subjective. The settings I like most probably ain't the best for others/ you.

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Reply #19 –
Quote from: Ed Seedhouse on
Well, I believe it cost me five bucks or so.  I don't expect money like that drives a big development team, and I don't expect the kind of support I expect for programs that cost hundreds of bucks.

It does what I need.  It's pretty easy to use, at least on my notepad.

No reason why you should like it, and as they say YMMV.


Opus is the latest generation open and royalty free low latency lossy audio codec. Per listening test results it's pretty much as good as it gets right now. More info: http://www.opus-codec.org/
It was ratified as an IETF standard RFC 6716 back in 2012. (Yep, 3 years ago)

Poweramp not supporting it bugs me for 2 main reasons; it's otherwise an outstanding audio player, and the developer has been making promises for years that so far have gone unfulfilled.

It didn't take him 3 years to originally write the entire app and all we're talking about here is adding critical functionality (for this kind of app) for which almost all the code was handed to him on a platter. So, I think at this point audiophool is on the right track in saying that the dev is just making empty promises and taking payments.

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Reply #21 –
I also recommend GoneMAD, however that is only the software side of things.

On the hardware side, there are differences in the DACs used (and the way they are implemented). The best site I've found for comparing audio performance is gsmarena.com. On most recent reviews, they will test the audio performance using the tools and methods described here:

http://www.gsmarena.com/gsmarena_lab_tests-review-751p4.php

I do realize that much of what is tested does not directly translate to audible differences, but it is still nice to be able to compare the data when you are trying to decide between what is available.

If anyone else knows of other places to find this kind of info, please share.

Music Playback on Android

Reply #22 –
I agree on the GoneMAD recommendation. A nice piece of software with a nice dev.

Music Playback on Android

Reply #23 –
why not just use the android version of the VLC player which supports both opus & flac.

Music Playback on Android

Reply #24 –
Switched to Poweramp on my Z3 Compact from a rockboxed Sansa Clip Zip and don't know why I didn't do it ages ago. I can't hear any differences so I'm happy